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  • BartManB Offline
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    #51

    good stuff Hooroo - when you get fit being such a tall bastard your times should be dangerous. It's great at the start as your times drop quickly - as you get fitter, and rowing fit, and also as your technique gets better.<br />
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    Maybe try a 20 minute row Hooroo, and sneak up on the 5k mark that way!

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    Yeah I love my gym workout at the moment and do not wish to deviate from what I am supposed to do as I leave with nothing in the tank as it is. But once I get fitter, sure I will row longer

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    Throw in an extra 1000 or something at the end of your workout - just to get the miles under the belt, no substitute for time on that horrible rowing machine!! Speaking of which, lunchtime now, and I hear it calling me... BUt have touch tonight, so a cruise down the avon listening to Split Enz will be my lot today!!

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    we fuck me sideways. 17:45.3 today. I have no idea where the extra 23 seconds come from for 17:22. Time for some longer rows to get that stamina going.

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    Cutter - try this one for size as a training exercise over 5k.<br />
    <br />
    every time you reach 500m, you sprint hell for leather the 'seconds you have in the bank'. This is assuming that you are rowing sub 2:00 / 500m pace. <br />
    <br />
    Which would mean, if you rowed 1:55 for the first 500, once the metres clicked to 500, you would 'sprint' for the 5 seconds in the bank. <br />
    <br />
    Easy huh - but then when you hit the thousand, you will be 15 seconds in the credit, so about 7 strokes of sprinting. So when you hit 1500, it might be 30 seconds ahead...<br />
    <br />
    Once you get a minute ahead of yourself you start again, so your sprint will be 10 seconds and getting higher etc.<br />
    <br />
    between sprints, make sure you keep rowing below 2:00 rate, but just cruise.<br />
    <br />
    And it really, really sucks when you are 58 seconds ahead at a 500 split. That is a LOOONG sprint. It happened to me today xzxflag_of_truce <br />
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    BUt it gets your times down, and is good over longer distances too. Row as hard as you can in the sprint too - give it everything,

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    Cutter
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    #56

    Might be a week or so before I'm back on the machine. Going in for a knee op today. I will try it out though. <br />
    <br />
    Have you looked at your power curves?

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    #57

    my concept 2 doesn't do power curves!! The one at the gym might though!!

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    I rowed 5k in 21.20 this morning which was pretty pedestrian (hard to row hard out listening to Uncle Bob on the ipod). Havent rowed much at all for yonks so I should improve soon. My goal is a sub 20 min 5k. Any tips anyone?

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    [quote name='Red Beard']My goal is a sub 20 min 5k. Any tips anyone?[/quote]<br />
    Don't just row 5k after 5k. You times will come down but you'll make more progress if you mix it up.<br />
    <br />
    Do some 30min row and even 10ks and so you body is used to going beyond 5k. Also I found doing intervals of 2min on 1min off really improved my times.<br />
    <br />
    Fark i miss rowing. My concept2 arrives next week after travelling via sea freight from London to Sydney. I was able to do sub 40min 10ks a few months ago but its going to be difficult just completing a decent row now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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    [quote name='Duluth'][quote name='Red Beard']My goal is a sub 20 min 5k. Any tips anyone?[/quote]<br />
    Don't just row 5k after 5k. You times will come down but you'll make more progress if you mix it up.<br />
    <br />
    Do some 30min row and even 10ks and so you body is used to going beyond 5k. Also I found doing intervals of 2min on 1min off really improved my times.<br />
    <br />
    Fark i miss rowing. My concept2 arrives next week after travelling via sea freight from London to Sydney. I was able to do sub 40min 10ks a few months ago but its going to be difficult just completing a decent row now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />[/quote]<br />
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    Cheers mate. The 30 min/10k are probably still abit beyond me at the mo but intervals will be the way to go for now. I find Im heaps quicker/more efficient during the second half of my row, than the first. Must be taking me ages for the body to loosen up. What do you to warm up on the rower? Unfortunately Im getting my knee cleaned out this Friday so I will be off the LB weights/rowing for a wee while. Im planning on cycling ASAP and then easing after a few weeks back onto the rower.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #61

    2mins at a gentle pace is what I do for a warm up. Just enough to wake the muscles up

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    [quote]My goal is a sub 20 min 5k. Any tips anyone?[/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Row faster. eusa_think <br />
    <br />
    But yeah - also do some 20 minute rows, 6k rows, and always in the last 500 metres of any row - balls out, give it everything. Just to get used that awful feeling of death warmed up as your heart tries to explode out of your chest like an Alien move remake...<br />
    <br />
    I rowed for the first time in a few weeks yesterday at lunchtime. 30 degrees. Was cruising for the first 1500 metres, feeling fine. Next 3500 was like rowing in a sauna, but battle through!<br />
    <br />
    Good luck with the knee vacuum!!

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    [quote name='Duluth'][quote name='Red Beard']My goal is a sub 20 min 5k. Any tips anyone?[/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Fark i miss rowing. My concept2 arrives next week after travelling via sea freight from London to Sydney. I was able to do sub 40min 10ks a few months ago but its going to be difficult just completing a decent row now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />[/quote]<br />
    <br />
    I havent been on the erg since mid Jan and cant get back on for another 3 weeks or so yet. I was talking to a mate about how, even if you miss a week or two, the erg gets in your head and tells you that you cant do the same time as before. After the only breaks I have had from the erg (I only started in Sept last year) I did an hour first up just to prove to myself that I had it under control. I didnt rush it, but once I had done an hour, a 5km, 10km or 30min row held no fear for me.

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    #64

    that is great thinking cutter - I upped my 5k to 6k this morning, slowley getting my head around the longer rows after a few weeks layoff too!<br />
    <br />
    might try and crack a half hour later...

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    Cutter
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    #65

    It proved to be all talk. I did a 30min first up. <br />
    <br />
    Tonight I'm doing 3x6km at a rating of 18 and with 1:30 gaps between each one. Should be great.

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    #66

    I did my 3x6000m last night.<br />
    <br />

    1. 22.44.5 (1.53.7)<br />
    2. 23.06.7 (1.55.5)<br />
    3. 23.07.5 (1.55.6)<br />
      Total: 1.08.58.7 (1.54.9)<br />
      <br />
      Its a mind bender. The second half of the middle one and the first half of the last one are tough.
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    #67

    those are good splits, I wonder if you let off a little in the first leg of that treble, (maybe 1:44), you would then be able to hold that 1:44 for the next two...??<br />
    <br />
    and a minute 30 in between sets, what exactly does that do, hardly seems worth it for a 6k row!!<br />
    <br />
    You would have a bloody good half marathon time if you joined those together and added 3 kilometres!!

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    Cutter
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    Not sure what its supposed to do, but we have to do it at 18 strokes per minute. Its hard to get the splits down and keep them down at that stroke rate. Kills the legs.

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  • BartManB Offline
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    #69

    yeah, I have never been able to have a rate that low - struggled to the low 20s while doing a low stroke rate thing a while back. <br />
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    Kills the legs - so that's what it's meant to do, s'pose, get some strength into the pins!

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    [quote name='Cutter']Not sure what its supposed to do, but we have to do it at [b]18 strokes per minute[/b]. Its hard to get the splits down and keep them down at that stroke rate. Kills the legs.[/quote]<br />
    How?<br />
    <br />
    I was doing quick erg as a warmup to a wieghts session and was experimenting with the SPM. The lowest I can get it down to and keep my form is about 20-21. When I was producing half decent times I was quite comfortable at 23 but now I seem to be stuck around 25-26 when going for a proper row<br />
    <br />
    Are you doing quite a long pause at the catch position? Or is the whole negative movement quite slow? You can't really change the drive speed without affecting power..

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