Weights then Cardio or Cardio then Weights?
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Salmon or any other fish would suffice - Mrs bartMan is on the salmon, doesn't like Tuna either.<br />
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A training days diet - today's... with me working out in the morning.<br />
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6am - horley replace energy drink - a scoop in water before gym, then training.<br />
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then after training some protein shake thing - can't remmeber the name, 250ml low fat milk and banana in a blender - the banana and milk just new, have been having it with water until a few weeks ago.<br />
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10am chicken leg, 10 almonds, 185gm tin of tuna<br />
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12am 4 slices whole grain bread - vogels, tin of tuna, salad (makes two sandwiches with the tuna and salad etc) and piece of fruit.<br />
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mid arvo half cup yoghurt, 10 almonds, another pice of fruit<br />
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dinner is 185 gm chichen or steak or fish, 4 cups vege (no peas or corn).<br />
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late snack half cup yoghurt with scoop protein powder.<br />
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repeat...<br />
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non training days sees the morning shake replaced by a 6 egg omlette, which used to be 1 yolk and 6 whites, but is now 3 yolks and 6 whites.<br />
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at the moment soy sauce and chillinsauce salt / pepper etc and the like allowed to make food taste better, but in the lean down period that gets reduced too to stop water retention and all that shite - I don't listen to the reason why we have to do things when the trainier talks, I just do it because she says...!! -
Chucking an egg ( or TWO ) in the protein shake can be good I've found. Just make sure you secure the lid nice and tight when you shake it ( bad experience last week ). <br />
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Salmon it'll be then, I absolutely love that stuff. I've tried that chicken in a tin but thats as bad as tuna I reckon. Beef Jerky is also good but at about 3 bucks a pop for fuck all it isn't really worth it.... -
[quote name='MN5']So when you have F'n'Cs you have to tell them to hold the F's ? <br />
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I absolutely love seafood. I'm sure I must be part maori without knowing it, well if Paul Tito can be then so can I ![/quote]Nah I have scallops or mussells. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
Depending on the type of training or weight goals you have will/should determine your diet.<br />
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If you want to basically build muscle then its going to be heaps different than someone that just wants to lose belly fat.<br />
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You basically have to decide which one you want to achieve. I've read a number of academic reports that suggest its fairly difficult to do both. Bodybuilders seem to know how to do it over a period of a year, getting huge muscle and then losing fat. But for 99% of us its not going to happen that way, and unless you can devote all your time to full time bb, then it simply won't happen.<br />
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I eat a lot of fruit and veges and nuts (walnuts, almonds, raw peanuts), and then get stuck into high protein stuff - lean red meat, eggs, chick peas, lentils, beans etc.<br />
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I very rarely eat pasta or rice. Potatoes every now and again. Essentially I get my carbs from fruit and veges.<br />
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I think if there were 2 things I'd recommend to anyone would be 1) write down everything you eat for a fortnight - this will astound you probably, but what it got me doing was reading llabels on all food and comparing it to other like brands etc. Its not calorie counting, but an awareness of what you are doing in order to change. 2) High intensity workouts involving weight resistance. Male or female, get on the dumbell full body movements reducing rest times in between supersets. Also get onto the body weight stuff. Do it at high intensity and for no more than 45mins a workout 4 times a week with other activities.<br />
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not to get all soppy but this stuff has changed my life -
[quote name='BartMan']Salmon or any other fish would suffice - Mrs bartMan is on the salmon, doesn't like Tuna either.<br />
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A training days diet - today's... with me working out in the morning.<br />
<br />
6am - horley replace energy drink - a scoop in water before gym, then training.<br />
<br />
then after training some protein shake thing - can't remmeber the name, 250ml low fat milk and banana in a blender - the banana and milk just new, have been having it with water until a few weeks ago.<br />
<br />
10am chicken leg, 10 almonds, 185gm tin of tuna<br />
<br />
12am 4 slices whole grain bread - vogels, tin of tuna, salad (makes two sandwiches with the tuna and salad etc) and piece of fruit.<br />
<br />
mid arvo half cup yoghurt, 10 almonds, another pice of fruit<br />
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dinner is 185 gm chichen or steak or fish, 4 cups vege (no peas or corn).<br />
<br />
late snack half cup yoghurt with scoop protein powder.<br />
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repeat...<br />
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non training days sees the morning shake replaced by a 6 egg omlette, which used to be 1 yolk and 6 whites, but is now 3 yolks and 6 whites.<br />
<br />
at the moment soy sauce and chillinsauce salt / pepper etc and the like allowed to make food taste better, but in the lean down period that gets reduced too to stop water retention and all that shite - I don't listen to the reason why we have to do things when the trainier talks, I just do it because she says...!![/quote]<br />
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You haven't mentioned the turps at all. You have just forgotten this right? I mean you must have a beer now and then? Right? -
Cato, the last beer I had was I think with treat meal #2 at Lone Star Cafe in Tauranga. It was a Steinlager Pure, icy cold. That must have been ten weeks or so ago now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <br />
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Thank god it is winter here, otherwise it would be impossible - mowing the lawns on a hot summer day requires, nay, [i]demands [/i]a beer once you are finished!<br />
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But in teh dim dark depths of winter, it is not so hard! -
[quote name='BartMan']Cato, the last beer I had was I think with treat meal #2 at Lone Star Cafe in Tauranga. It was a Steinlager Pure, icy cold. That must have been ten weeks or so ago now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <br />
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Thank god it is winter here, otherwise it would be impossible - mowing the lawns on a hot summer day requires, nay, [i]demands [/i]a beer once you are finished!<br />
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But in teh dim dark depths of winter, it is not so hard![/quote]<br />
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In Winter you don't even need to mow the lawns cos they don't grow !!<br />
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Booze is such a bugbear of mine as well, mind you I may have a couple of solutions. Macs Spring tide and pure blonde. Both have around 70% less carbs than normal beers and while not the most outstanding drops are pretty decent. -
[quote name='BartMan']Salmon or any other fish would suffice - Mrs bartMan is on the salmon, doesn't like Tuna either.<br />
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6am - horley replace energy drink - a scoop in water before gym, then training.<br />
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dinner is 185 gm chichen or steak or fish, [b]4 cups vege (no peas or corn[/b]).<br />
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Bart, that sounds like an intensive meal plan. How long can you keep it up for?<br />
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What is the purpose of the energy drink in the morning? I thought it was better to lat off the carbs before a training for weight loss purposes.<br />
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4 cups is a shit load of vegetables. Why no peas or corn?<br />
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peas and corn very starchy=carbs.<br />
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No idea on the energy in the AM, jsut to fuel you up for training - is just one scoop, so like a couple of tablespoons of sugar I s'pose.<br />
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well, been what, 10 weeks or so now (I could check my arnold thread, but too lazy), and October 10 is 'showtime', so will let you know how long we can continue!!!<br />
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4 cups of veg once you cook them don't seem so large!! Sometimes do a half salad half vege thing too!! it's either veg or salad for your greens. -
[quote name='BartMan']Cato, the last beer I had was I think with treat meal #2 at Lone Star Cafe in Tauranga. It was a Steinlager Pure, icy cold. That must have been ten weeks or so ago now <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <br />
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Thank god it is winter here, otherwise it would be impossible - mowing the lawns on a hot summer day requires, nay, [i]demands [/i]a beer once you are finished!<br />
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But in teh dim dark depths of winter, it is not so hard![/quote]<br />
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There are several reasons to get thrown out of the front row union, but man - you have crossed the Rubicon now. -
Well congratulations then - I must say it seems to be going very well for you. Is the plan to continue after the comp or is it straight on the lash afterwards?
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I think three weeks after the comp are the nationals - so if those are qualified for, be straight back into training for 3 weeks. But the night of the comp, I am planning on visiign every hamburger joint in Wellington, before having the two beers that will turn me on my head!!
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Smal steps my man, small steps. Just ease yourself back into it and you should be ok <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
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fuck no, once it is over - you are apparantly shagged, I am just going to eat the first thing that comes into my mind - at the moment it is breakfast cereals that I would kill for - a big arse bowl of cornflakes would go down a treat - it is weird! Mrs BartMan it is eggs on toast!!
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If the goal is weight loss then it should be weights then cardio. The idea is to burn as much glycogen, which is stored energy in the muscles, as possible before hitting the cardio. Once the body runs out of glycogen, it starts burning fat for use as energy. And you should be doing a minimum of 20 minutes cardio. One hour is ideal.
