Hurricanes 2023
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.
Wes Goosen #229James James O'Reilly #238
Alex Fidow #245
Jackson Garden-Bachop #246
Scott Scrafton #268
Tei Walden #292
Tom Parsons #293
#canesfamily
In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this
Props:
- Xavier Numia
- Pouri Rakete-Stones
- Pasilio Tosi
- Owen Franks
- Tyrel Lomax
- Tevita Mafileo
- ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.
Hookers:
- Asafo Aumua
- Dane Coles
- ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly
Locks:
- James Blackwell
- Dominic Bird
- Justin Sangster
- Isaia Walker-Leawere
- ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.
Loose Forwards:
- Caleb Delany
- Blake Gibson
- Reed Prinsep
- TK Howden
- Devan Flanders
- Ardie Savea
- Tyler Laubscher
- Du Plessis-Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
Halfbacks:
- TJ Perenara
- Cam Roigard
- Jamie Booth
First Fives:
- Aiden Morgan
- Ruben Love
- ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s
Centres:
- Peter Umaga-Jensen
- Bailyn Sullivan
- Billy Proctor
- ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.
Outside backs:
- Josh Moorby
- Julian Savea
- Salesi Rayasi
- Jordie Barrett
- Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
- ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.
I reckon you are top heavy in forwards 24/16 split seems a bit out, its normally 38 man squad.You have a potential 40 in your squad.
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@Canes4life I haven’t heard anything in terms of resigning and as far as I’m aware when they first sign Super Rugby contracts it’s only for a year.
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@Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.
Wes Goosen #229James James O'Reilly #238
Alex Fidow #245
Jackson Garden-Bachop #246
Scott Scrafton #268
Tei Walden #292
Tom Parsons #293
#canesfamily
In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this
Props:
- Xavier Numia
- Pouri Rakete-Stones
- Pasilio Tosi
- Owen Franks
- Tyrel Lomax
- Tevita Mafileo
- ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.
Hookers:
- Asafo Aumua
- Dane Coles
- ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly
Locks:
- James Blackwell
- Dominic Bird
- Justin Sangster
- Isaia Walker-Leawere
- ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.
Loose Forwards:
- Caleb Delany
- Blake Gibson
- Reed Prinsep
- TK Howden
- Devan Flanders
- Ardie Savea
- Tyler Laubscher
- Du Plessis-Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
Halfbacks:
- TJ Perenara
- Cam Roigard
- Jamie Booth
First Fives:
- Aiden Morgan
- Ruben Love
- ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s
Centres:
- Peter Umaga-Jensen
- Bailyn Sullivan
- Billy Proctor
- ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.
Outside backs:
- Josh Moorby
- Julian Savea
- Salesi Rayasi
- Jordie Barrett
- Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
- ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.
I reckon you are top heavy in forwards 24/16 split seems a bit out, its normally 38 man squad.You have a potential 40 in your squad.
Something like a 21/17 or 22/16 split.I’m assuming that they will have a 24/16 split, the same as this year.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
hurricanesrugby Wishing our departing players all the best for their next chapters. Great men, both on and off the field.
Wes Goosen #229James James O'Reilly #238
Alex Fidow #245
Jackson Garden-Bachop #246
Scott Scrafton #268
Tei Walden #292
Tom Parsons #293
#canesfamily
In that case the Hurricanes squad for 2023 will look something like this
Props:
- Xavier Numia
- Pouri Rakete-Stones
- Pasilio Tosi
- Owen Franks
- Tyrel Lomax
- Tevita Mafileo
- ?? I think we need another experienced prop here - not sure who that would be though.
Hookers:
- Asafo Aumua
- Dane Coles
- ?? Jacob Devery or Raymond Tuputupu would be my main contenders to replace O'Reilly
Locks:
- James Blackwell
- Dominic Bird
- Justin Sangster
- Isaia Walker-Leawere
- ?? my wish list would be to get someone like Pari Pari Parkinson from the Landers.
Loose Forwards:
- Caleb Delany
- Blake Gibson
- Reed Prinsep
- TK Howden
- Devan Flanders
- Ardie Savea
- Tyler Laubscher
- Du Plessis-Kirifi
- Brayden Iose
Halfbacks:
- TJ Perenara
- Cam Roigard
- Jamie Booth
First Fives:
- Aiden Morgan
- Ruben Love
- ?? Brett Cameron or Harry Godfrey from the Under 20s
Centres:
- Peter Umaga-Jensen
- Bailyn Sullivan
- Billy Proctor
- ?? Riley Higgins would be my pick to replace Tei Walden as he debuted this year.
Outside backs:
- Josh Moorby
- Julian Savea
- Salesi Rayasi
- Jordie Barrett
- Pepesani Patafilo (not sure if his contract will be extended)
- ?? Someone like Connor Garden-Bachop, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens or Chay Fihaki would make quality replacements for Goosen. Harry Godfrey is another from the Under 20s.
I reckon you are top heavy in forwards 24/16 split seems a bit out, its normally 38 man squad.You have a potential 40 in your squad.
Something like a 21/17 or 22/16 split.I’m assuming that they will have a 24/16 split, the same as this year.
40 players ? did the Canes have injury cover for Bird and Franks that would explain it.
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@Chris that might explain it, I’m just going from their initial squad announcement last year.
In that case Delany would probably be that 5th lock, and we wouldn’t have room for another prop.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Chris that might explain it, I’m just going from their initial squad announcement last year.
In that case Delany would probably be that 5th lock, and we wouldn’t have room for another prop.
I think you are right.I thought Delany went well when he got a chance.
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@Canes4life I'll be happy if they retain Barrett.
But we need some quality signings at lock and 1st 5. But even then not a hope if winning. Canes are as weak now as the first few years. Thank god for our 2 starting abs.. we need 2 or 3 more though yet I couldnt see any this year
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@Winger I believe we have the talent on that roster to compete at the business end of the season, but as well all know Holland and his selections have continued to plague this team over the last three years. If he starts the right players i.e. Walker-Leawere instead of Blackwell, Flanders instead of Prinsep, Savea at 7 instead of Kirifi and Umaga-Jensen/Sullivan instead of Proctor at centre then that alone will be a massive improvement compared to this year.
But yeah, prop and lock are two positions that need some strengthening if we want to win the whole thing.
From that list of players above and if Holland isn't a complete moron when it comes to selection, I'd like to see this as our starting side next year which is a massive improvement to the side that was knocked out by the Brumbies. And yes, don't hate me for having Sullivan on the right wing, I just think he would go bloody well there due to his versatility.
My starting 15:
1. T Mafileo 2. D Coles 3. T Lomax 4. J Sangster 5. I Walker-Leawere 6. TK Howden 7. A Savea 8. D Flanders 9. TJ Perenara
10. A Morgan 11. S Rayasi 12. J Barrett 13. P Umaga-Jensen 14. B Sullivan 15. J Moorby.2nd 15:
1. P Rakete-Stones 2. A Aumua 3. O Franks 4. J Blackwell 5. D Bird 6. C Delany 6. B Gibson 8. B Iose/T Laubscher
9. C Roigard 10. ?? Brett Cameron (if he's signed) 11. ?? (Wes Goosen's replacement) 12. Riley Higgins 13. B Proctor 14. J Savea 15. Ruben LoveHopefully we get some gold nugget signings in the off-season to help strengthen this squad for 2023.
Update: hopefully 2023 is the final season for all of Holland, Blackwell, Prinsep, Bird, Kirifi and Savea so we can either branch out and get some experience, or bring through talent like Lakai, Godfrey, Tuputupu etc.
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@Canes4life I hope you're right. But I just don't see enough class. Where are the other potential starting abs. Some quality players but we need more ab quality.
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@Winger I understand there is a very high need to prop up this side with more A.B talent, I just can't see where that is going to come from in the short term. There is also no reason why the likes of Walker-Leawere, Howden, Flanders, Rayasi, Umaga-Jensen, Sullivan & Moorby can't push their case to be A.Bs (post World Cup). They have definitely all shown glimpses of being top level talent but probably just need to show more consistency in the big games.
There's also the likes of Aumua and Lomax, who's stocks probably dropped slightly this year but if they have big seasons in 2023, there's an opportunity to get themselves back into the hunt aswell.
I think the big issue is that alot of the so called leaders in this side are either over the hill i.e. Perenara, Coles, Franks, Bird or have a low ceiling i.e. Prinsep, Blackwell, Kirifi which prevents alot of the talent above from taking the field.
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@Canes4life. The starting point I guess for 2024 is a much better head coach.
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life. The starting point I guess for 2024 is a much better head coach.
It's like the AB's thread!
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@Chris on attack, how good would a Laumape / Sullivan midfield combo be...
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Chris on attack, how good would a Laumape /
SullivanProcter midfield combo be...FIXED Your suggested combo is never going to happen!
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So Laumape wasn't just a totally random comment!
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@Machpants The journo who wrote that sounds like a blind fanboy. Laumape simply wasn't good enough for the ABs; that's not suddenly going to change. Besides, he's been pretty vocal about turning out for Tonga.
If the Canes sign him, I assume the Jordie at 12 project will be over and PU-J will move franchises, go overseas or play a lot of club rugby.
