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    • booboo
      booboo last edited by booboo

      Just for fun name the best XV who have not been capped

      My best guess follows, completely off the top of my head ... please allow I've had a wine ... or two ... and have not thought too deeply ... 🙂

      15 Havili
      14 Buckman
      13 Goodhue
      12 Faiane
      11 Nanai
      10 Mounga
      9 Weber (injured ... Enari, Tcubed, Taumateine, Christie, Hall, Drummond ... AN Other ... )
      8 Ioane
      7 Karpick (? Am I missing someone here ... ?)
      6 Seu
      5 Cowley -Tuioti
      4 Strange
      3 Moli
      2 Aumua (has Coltman been capped? Rickirickirickirickitelli? )
      1 ummm ... Hodgeman ... ?

      This a result of 2 mins of thinking so please take on that basis.

      Who am I missing...?

      Edit: Weber capped so who at halfback? Added Hall, Christie and Drummond in no particular order

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      • ACT Crusader
        ACT Crusader last edited by

        Havili, Bridge, Goodhue, Bateman, Mo'unga....

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        • booboo
          booboo @ACT Crusader last edited by

          @ACT-Crusader said in Uncapped XV:

          Havili, Bridge, Goodhue, Bateman, Mo'unga....

          Bridge ...

          Oh it's you ACTC ... 🙂

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          • mimic
            mimic @booboo last edited by

            @booboo said in Uncapped XV:

            Just for fun name the best XV who have not been capped

            My best guess follows, completely off the top of my head ... please allow I've had a wine ... or two ... and have not thought too deeply ... 🙂

            15 Havili
            14 Buckman
            13 Goodhue
            12 Faiane
            11 Nanai
            10 Mounga
            9 Weber (injured ... Enari, Tcubed, Taumateine, ... AN Other ... )
            8 Ioane
            7 Karpick (? Am I missing someone here ... ?)
            6 Seu
            5 Cowley -Tuioti
            4 Strange
            3 Moli
            2 Aumua (has Coltman been capped? Rickirickirickirickitelli? )
            1 ummm ... Hodgeman ... ?

            This a result of 2 mins of thinking so please take on that basis.

            Who am I missing...?

            I'd put in Blake Gibson and Scott Scrafton

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            • Unco
              Unco last edited by

              Even if he wasn't injured, Weber got a cap against Samoa the other year.

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              • booboo
                booboo @Unco last edited by

                @Unco said in Uncapped XV:

                Even if he wasn't injured, Weber got a cap against Samoa the other year.

                Thanks Unco

                So looking for a 9 ...

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                • booboo
                  booboo last edited by

                  So need a 9 please.

                  Am fence sitting eith a long list there. (And added Hall, Christie and Drummond in no particular order.)

                  What is the collective wisdom of TSF?

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                  • Billy Tell
                    Billy Tell last edited by Billy Tell

                    15 Billy Tell
                    14 booboo
                    13 ACT Crusader
                    12 mimic
                    11 Unco
                    10 Crucial
                    09 Stargazer
                    08 KiwiMurph (c)
                    07 Duluth
                    06 Chris B.
                    05 Chester Draws
                    04 cgrant
                    03 rotated
                    02 Bones
                    01 Pot Hale (project player)

                    Based on what's posted here by people in the know, this team should master tactics down to a tee. Not sure about the stats on the training paddock though - a carefully guarded secret.

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                    • booboo
                      booboo @Billy Tell last edited by

                      @Billy-Tell said in Uncapped XV:

                      14 booboo

                      Jersey number greater than 8 (and not 16-20.) You can get banned for that sort of insult.

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                      • G
                        Gunner last edited by

                        A few names to throw in the mix:

                        Tom Franklin
                        Jordan Taufua
                        Brad Shields
                        Matt Duffie
                        Sam Nock

                        Melani Nanai 🎻

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                        • Cantab79
                          Cantab79 last edited by

                          Based solely on test capped status, so injured players may be included;

                          15-David Havili
                          14-George Bridge
                          13-Jack Goodhue
                          12-Matt Proctor
                          11-Vince Aso
                          10-Richie Mo'unga
                          9-Byrn Hall

                          8-Jordan Taufua
                          7-Blake Gibson
                          6-Brad Shields
                          5-Cowley-Tuioti
                          4-Tom Franklin
                          3-Atu Moli
                          2-Ben Funnell
                          1-Ben May

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                          • Bones
                            Bones @booboo last edited by Bones

                            @booboo by the same token, jersey number less than a 9 for me? I don't mix with those overblown piston wristed gibbons. I leave the ruck inspecting up to those that need it.

                            Edit: oh and as for 9s...the baabaas 9 was the most impressive uncapped 9 for me so far this year.

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                              cgrant last edited by

                              Lousi was the standout lock by the end of SR. So my second pair would be Lousi - Franklin. If he hadn't been injured, Fatialofa would be in the mix too.

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                                cgrant last edited by

                                My XV :
                                Havili
                                Duffie
                                Goodhue
                                Buckman
                                Nanai
                                Mo'unga
                                Hall / Drummond / Christie
                                Ioane
                                Gibson
                                Shields
                                Lousi / Fatialofa
                                Franklin
                                Moli
                                Riccitelli
                                Lienert Brown

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                                  Crash last edited by

                                  Yep I think you may have something with Lousi.
                                  I'd add Boshier at 7 and Tiaan Falcon and Mitch Hunt at 10

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                                  • booboo
                                    booboo @Crash last edited by

                                    @Crash said in Uncapped XV:

                                    Yep I think you may have something with Lousi.
                                    I'd add Boshier at 7 and Tiaan Falcon and Mitch Hunt at 10

                                    Perofeta an option at 10?

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                                    • Cantab79
                                      Cantab79 last edited by

                                      Surely Mo'unga is the most credentialed of our uncapped 10s right now? If I was picking an uncapped team, he'd be my first five. He has served almost the perfect apprenticeship to move on to play for the ABs, winning a SR title and multiple provincial titles.

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                                      • Tim
                                        Tim last edited by Tim

                                        Banks at 10. Scrafton at lock. Lowe, Nanai, Duffie wings. Gibson at 7.

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                                        • Tim
                                          Tim last edited by Tim

                                          1. Lienert Brown
                                          2. Ben Funnell
                                          3. Atu Moli
                                          4. Fatialofa
                                          5. Scrafton
                                          6. Shields
                                          7. Gibson
                                          8. Ioane
                                          9. Hall
                                          10. Banks
                                          11. Duffie
                                          12. Buckman
                                          13. Goodhue
                                          14. Lowe
                                          15. Havili
                                          16. Greg Pleasants-Tate
                                          17. Pauliasi Manu/Mitchell Graham
                                          18. Siate Tokolahi
                                          19. Tom Franklin
                                          20. Kara Pryor
                                          21. Weber
                                          22. Mo'unga
                                          23. Nanai
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                                          • KiwiMurph
                                            KiwiMurph @Billy Tell last edited by

                                            @Billy-Tell Captaincy.. I am honoured sir.

                                            I see a lot of Nanai in here and a distinct lack of Michael Collins - wish one of you were in the Blues coaching set up...

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                                            • Tim
                                              Tim @Billy Tell last edited by

                                              @Billy-Tell said in Uncapped XV:

                                              15 Billy Tell
                                              14 booboo
                                              13 ACT Crusader
                                              12 mimic
                                              11 Unco
                                              10 Crucial
                                              09 Stargazer
                                              08 KiwiMurph (c)
                                              07 Duluth
                                              06 Chris B.
                                              05 Chester Draws
                                              04 cgrant
                                              03 rotated
                                              02 Bones
                                              01 Pot Hale (project player)

                                              Based on what's posted here by people in the know, this team should master tactics down to a tee. Not sure about the stats on the training paddock though - a carefully guarded secret.

                                              I'm the coach.

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                                                akan004 last edited by akan004

                                                I hope Blake Gibson transitions over to blindside. He could be a Jaco Kriel type player. He's dynamic, physical and has all the attributes to be a very good blindside. It will give him a better chance of cracking the ABs as well as blindside is arguably our weakest position in terms of depth. It's a shame if a guy who is this good doesn't get a chance at higher honours, but I don't see him doing it at 7 where we already have three world class players in that position.

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                                                • Tim
                                                  Tim @akan004 last edited by

                                                  @akan004 I don't think he's far off - he needs to improve his link game. If he was playing in a team with better patterns his support play would look better.

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                                                  • antipodean
                                                    antipodean @Cantab79 last edited by

                                                    @Cantab79 said in Uncapped XV:

                                                    Based solely on test capped status, so injured players may be included;

                                                    15-David Havili
                                                    14-George Bridge
                                                    13-Jack Goodhue
                                                    12-Matt Proctor
                                                    11-Vince Aso
                                                    10-Richie Mo'unga
                                                    9-Byrn Hall

                                                    8-Jordan Taufua
                                                    7-Blake Gibson
                                                    6-Brad Shields
                                                    5-Cowley-Tuioti
                                                    4-Tom Franklin
                                                    3-Atu Moli
                                                    2-Ben Funnell
                                                    1-Ben May

                                                    No way does that loosehead ever get a cap.

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                                                    • KiwiMurph
                                                      KiwiMurph @Tim last edited by

                                                      @Tim I think Gibson is an excellent 7 - only thing keeping him out of test calculations is depth.

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                                                      • Tim
                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                        This thread shows why we should have an NZ B team.

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                                                        • Tim
                                                          Tim last edited by Tim

                                                          Also note how much stronger than the NZ Maori team the uncapped XXIII could be. That forward pack would eat them for dinner.

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                                                          • Bones
                                                            Bones @akan004 last edited by

                                                            @akan004 Kriel is an openside...

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                                                            • mikedogz
                                                              mikedogz @Billy Tell last edited by

                                                              @Billy-Tell

                                                              I bags reserve tight head Prop, I am actually still playing, played B's rugby and finishing the season with the presidents.

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                                                              • mikedogz
                                                                mikedogz last edited by

                                                                Pauliasi Manu for loosehead prop.

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                                                                • Tim
                                                                  Tim @mikedogz last edited by

                                                                  @mikedogz Ah, I thought he'd been capped.

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                                                                  • Wurzel
                                                                    Wurzel @Tim last edited by

                                                                    @Tim said in Uncapped XV:

                                                                    @mikedogz Ah, I thought he'd been capped.

                                                                    Not been capped but owns a Ruby World Cup winners medal. One of the great pub quiz questions.

                                                                    ... could add another layer of complexity to things if he were to miss out on the All Blacks and turn out for Samoa in the future.

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                                                                    • Tim
                                                                      Tim @Wurzel last edited by

                                                                      @Wurzel Yeah, that is a cracking trivia question.

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                                                                      • mimic
                                                                        mimic @Wurzel last edited by

                                                                        @Wurzel said in Uncapped XV:

                                                                        @Tim said in Uncapped XV:

                                                                        @mikedogz Ah, I thought he'd been capped.

                                                                        Not been capped but owns a Ruby World Cup winners medal. One of the great pub quiz questions.

                                                                        ... could add another layer of complexity to things if he were to miss out on the All Blacks and turn out for Samoa in the future.

                                                                        I always thought he was full Tongan, but if he is part Samoan, then sure, we'll claim him.

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                                                                        • Wurzel
                                                                          Wurzel @mimic last edited by

                                                                          @mimic

                                                                          Be a real brain teaser if he turned out for Samoa then. Apologies, should know that Manu is a Tongan surname (Nasi, Daniel, etc)

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                                                                            cgrant @akan004 last edited by

                                                                            @akan004 said in Uncapped XV:

                                                                            I hope Blake Gibson transitions over to blindside. He could be a Jaco Kriel type player. He's dynamic, physical and has all the attributes to be a very good blindside. It will give him a better chance of cracking the ABs as well as blindside is arguably our weakest position in terms of depth. It's a shame if a guy who is this good doesn't get a chance at higher honours, but I don't see him doing it at 7 where we already have three world class players in that position.

                                                                            He's a bit too short for a blindside. He would be a bit like Jordan Taufua, strong but not tall enough. An international Nr.6 usually provides a supplementary option for the lineout.

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                                                                            • ACT Crusader
                                                                              ACT Crusader @Bones last edited by

                                                                              @Bones said in Uncapped XV:

                                                                              @akan004 Kriel is an openside...

                                                                              Exactly.

                                                                              Gibson is a slightly bigger than Kriel too so I'm not sure what the problem with Gibson at openside is. With Cane, Savea and Todd still in prime Gibson may be waiting a while to get his shot. Could be this generations Josh Blackie

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                                                                                akan004 @ACT Crusader last edited by akan004

                                                                                @ACT-Crusader He's a great openside and is underrated if anything. He would make most other International squads imo but unfortunately has three world class players ahead of him in NZ. There's nothing wrong with him staying at openside if he is happy to continue being a Super player and has no ambitions of making it to the next level.

                                                                                The only reason I want him at six is so that he has a better chance at cracking the ABs. It's our weakest position atm in terms of depth, and when you see a guy like Fifita in there, one would think that his route to the team would be a lot easier if he changed positions.

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                                                                                • Duluth
                                                                                  Duluth last edited by Duluth

                                                                                  Gibson is a great defensive openside at the moment. His tackling accuracy is up there with Matt Todds.

                                                                                  @Tim nailed it about his linking game though. He's not in the right place often enough

                                                                                  Just checked some stats for this season:
                                                                                  Offloads: Todd 16, Savea 12, Gibson 3
                                                                                  Passes: Savea 78, Todd 72, Gibson 33

                                                                                  Try stats aren't that important but it is surprising that he's only scored 2 tries in 2 1/2 seasons

                                                                                  I'm confident he'll improve that part of is game. There's some great 7's that only added the linking/running side of their game after a few seasons

                                                                                  He does have good power when he gets the ball in space..

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