Gooonnnnee too soon
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Borg was a big shock, I was a young un but old enough to have some idea of the macca Borg rivalry. The name on the list I'd forgotten was James Ryan. Amazing how time moves on the the ABs. It would be an interesting exercise to compile a top squad of NZ players that retired early or left to go to the NH far too soon. I'll start with
Hayman, Ryan, lucre (came back but left his best years up North), Nick Evans, that centre from Waikato, Charles Piatau, Mike Brewer
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@canefan Regan King.
David Kirk.
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David Kirk (only 26) and Jeremy Stanley for careers.
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jasin goldsmith
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Keith Murdoch, 29
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Keeping the rugby theme - Nicky Allen. Unfortunately not his choice.
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@bones Regan King? Didn't he return from Europe only last year and play in the Heartland comp for Mid-Canterbury? Pretty long career, considering he's now 37 years old.
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Matthew Ridge and John Gallagher
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I think some people are confusing what the article is about - "retiring too soon" - with gone from NZ too soon.
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@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
I think some people are confusing what the article is about - "retiring too soon" - with gone from NZ too soon.
I did specify retire or leave NZ to play elsewhere.....
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How the fuck is Lonergan on a list with Bjorg????
Anyway, Mark Ella would be one of the better rugby contenders.
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@canefan Hmm, not sure I'd put them on the same pile.
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@canefan Mike Brewer played over a decade in NZ rugby, first made the ABs in 1986 and last played for the ABs in 1995 - so I don't think he meets your criteria.
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@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones Regan King? Didn't he return from Europe only last year and play in the Heartland comp for Mid-Canterbury? Pretty long career, considering he's now 37 years old.
Oh sorry TSF off topic master! I thought King was 'that centre from Waikato'.
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@nepia said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
How the fuck is Lonergan on a list with Bjorg????
I was wondering the same thing so read the article to see if "sports stars" was mentioned. Lonergan is known for the Lonergan shuffle not his RL career.
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@bones He was. Why the name calling? I just expressed my surprise about seeing his name mentioned.
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There are a few like Ryan who have had to retire young due to concussions. Ben Afeaki is another.
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@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones He was. Why the name calling? I just expressed my surprise about seeing his name mentioned.
Yes, very surprising to see a rugby player who left NZ at a young age mentioned in a thread about players who left NZ at a young age.
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@bones The article was about players ending their career early. That's how I read the subject. My bad.
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If we are talking players leaving NZ early i'll throw out Rupeni Caucaunibuca
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@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
I think some people are confusing what the article is about - "retiring too soon" - with gone from NZ too soon.
leave the country you may as well be retired. Fucking. Dead. To. Me. #deadtome #goneandforgotten
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Was James Ryan that carrot top? He's a doctor now right or maybe a lawyer?
Toeava left too soon prolly.
That tall Chinese basketball player was a superstar for a brief time, what happened to him? -
Justine Henin was younger than Graf
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@bones said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones Regan King? Didn't he return from Europe only last year and play in the Heartland comp for Mid-Canterbury? Pretty long career, considering he's now 37 years old.
Oh sorry TSF off topic master! I thought King was 'that centre from Waikato'.
Absolute case in point. I'm astounded to know Regan King is even alive. To me he is that young kid from Waikato who looked awesome and then disappeared off the face of the earth. a career gone too soon
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Stephen Donald of course. Left at his absolute trucking world cup winning peak!!
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@hooroo said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Stephen Donald of course. Left at his absolute trucking world cup winning peak!!
Nah, that's sailing off in a blaze of shirt-not-fitting-right glory. Ultimate career mic drop
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@hooroo said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Was James Ryan that carrot top? He's a doctor now right or maybe a lawyer?
Toeava left too soon prolly.
That tall Chinese basketball player was a superstar for a brief time, what happened to him?Ryan was the ginger. Yao Ming was the NBA star whose feet were made of glass
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@bovidae said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Justine Henin was younger than Graf
Henin came back for a while didnt she? Hingis also had a career interrupted. Left the game for 4 years from age 22 to 26
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I never thought of Stu Wilson as one who retired early. He was an AB from 76 to 83.
Looking up on wikipedia he was 29 when he played his last test rugby and 30 when he stopped playing for Wellington.
In fact I don't actually remember him retiring from test rugby, did he do it quietly or was Kirwan simply picked ahead of him in 84?
I agree with Bjorn Borg and Mark Ella being absolute wtf?! retirements. Can't think of any others. Actually, also David Kirk as mentioned, but that wasn't shocking. So well sign-posted I guess, or easily understood and didn't seem 'final'.
Glenn Turner, before my time, but he basically put the peak of his career into backwater cricket.
Imagine if Martin Crowe had taken up that Queensland Sheffield Shield offer ......
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Michael Jordan's 1993 retirement was seismic
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Peter Snell Barry John Honourable mention for Greg Denholm
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@mariner4life said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones Regan King? Didn't he return from Europe only last year and play in the Heartland comp for Mid-Canterbury? Pretty long career, considering he's now 37 years old.
Oh sorry TSF off topic master! I thought King was 'that centre from Waikato'.
Absolute case in point. I'm astounded to know Regan King is even alive. To me he is that young kid from Waikato who looked awesome and then disappeared off the face of the earth. a career gone too soon
King ? Pfffft.
He wasn't even the best Maori centre from Waikato in the last 16 years with the initials RK.
My old man's tennis partner Chris Laidlaw gave Rugby away at 26. Pretty young.
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@mn5 said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@mariner4life said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones Regan King? Didn't he return from Europe only last year and play in the Heartland comp for Mid-Canterbury? Pretty long career, considering he's now 37 years old.
Oh sorry TSF off topic master! I thought King was 'that centre from Waikato'.
Absolute case in point. I'm astounded to know Regan King is even alive. To me he is that young kid from Waikato who looked awesome and then disappeared off the face of the earth. a career gone too soon
King ? Pfffft.
He wasn't even the best Maori centre from Waikato in the last 16 years with the initials RK.
My old man's tennis partner Chris Laidlaw gave Rugby away at 26. Pretty young.
Laidlaw and Kirk, among others, were professional men in the amateur era. They could see rugby as the well paid career it is today
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@hooroo said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
Was James Ryan that carrot top? He's a doctor now right or maybe a lawyer?
Toeava left too soon prolly.
That tall Chinese basketball player was a superstar for a brief time, what happened to him?That tall chinese basketball player got inducted into the NBA hall of fame last year (maybe the year before) with Shaq. Ming was a beast.
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@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones The article was about players ending their career early. That's how I read the subject. My bad.
I'm not sure that you really need to police thread topics anyway. The fern ebbs and flows, in and out, deep breaths when things go astray (and stay away from the "off topic" forum that will do your head in).
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@snowy said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@stargazer said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@bones The article was about players ending their career early. That's how I read the subject. My bad.
I'm not sure that you really need to police thread topics anyway. The fern ebbs and flows, in and out, deep breaths when things go astray (and stay away from the "off topic" forum that will do your head in).
Fucken @Bones always jumps in and gets triggered. I for one am sick of it.
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@mn5 Actually Kahui is a good one for leaving too soon. Although, he had an impressive list of achievements for his short career.
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@mn5 said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
My old man's tennis partner Chris Laidlaw gave Rugby away at 26. Pretty young.
By tennis partner, do you mean saw him at breakfast once?
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@majorrage said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@mn5 said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
My old man's tennis partner Chris Laidlaw gave Rugby away at 26. Pretty young.
By tennis partner, do you mean saw him at breakfast once?
Nope. This is genuine family friendship, not one of @jegga s stories.
He was at my wedding. ( Chris Laidlaw, not jegga )
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@nepia said in Gooonnnnee too soon:
@mn5 Actually Kahui is a good one for leaving too soon. Although, he had an impressive list of achievements for his short career.
Yep good call. Hard to break up that Nonu/Smith partnership though.
