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    @mooshld said in MOTM v England:

    I also don't think England get that soft try in the corner with Crotty on. Guys like Crotty and before him Conrad Smith who take on the role of organising the defense, can add so much to a team, yet you will never see it in the stats.

    I think they read that as a planned move against our defnesive systems. So - quite probably get that try even with Conrad around ... it was a really slick piece of rugby. Well done to the Poms

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    @nzzp said in MOTM v England:

    @mooshld said in MOTM v England:

    I also don't think England get that soft try in the corner with Crotty on. Guys like Crotty and before him Conrad Smith who take on the role of organising the defense, can add so much to a team, yet you will never see it in the stats.

    I think they read that as a planned move against our defnesive systems. So - quite probably get that try even with Conrad around ... it was a really slick piece of rugby. Well done to the Poms

    So maybe one of the work-ons is that, since we know every team is going to give it heaps straight out of the block, we need to win that first kickoff at all costs. Keep hold of the ball until their tails start to droop.

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    Re DMac, I don’t remember if it was him but one of our knock ons was shown in the replay to have been punched out of his arms from behind by Farrell. Is that a penalty? My memory tells me it used to be.

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    @nzzp

    I don't know about that, I'm watching the replay and went through it a few times, and it's true that Ioane is narrow and not looking to cover, but also SBW goes hairing back across field (the other way) leaving Good hue and Ioane covering three men (I count six on the replay including the England HB, with only A smith, Goodhue and Ioane there and Dmac coming in cover). It was always on and I think that if SBW had stayed they might have numbered up.

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    Hard to spot by a referee without the video. I don't think that you can call the TMO for a single potential knock on.

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    @jc not sure it is a penalty but some refs don't rule it as lost control, which it is.

    You can lose possession in a hard tackle by not having a good hold on the ball, so to if someone's hand dislodges the ball, purposely or luckily.

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    @jc said in MOTM v England:

    Re DMac, I don’t remember if it was him but one of our knock ons was shown in the replay to have been punched out of his arms from behind by Farrell. Is that a penalty? My memory tells me it used to be.

    DMac has had bad luck with that this year - he probably would have scored against the Boks if not for a direct hand hitting the ball and we probably would have scored in a phase if not for this one.

    DMac is a punching bag for some on here but those were both just unlucky (or awesome skill by the defender both times).

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    @jc said in MOTM v England:

    Re DMac, I don’t remember if it was him but one of our knock ons was shown in the replay to have been punched out of his arms from behind by Farrell. Is that a penalty? My memory tells me it used to be.

    Farell knocked it backwards so it couldn't have been a PK.

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    @nepia said in MOTM v England:

    @jc said in MOTM v England:

    Re DMac, I don’t remember if it was him but one of our knock ons was shown in the replay to have been punched out of his arms from behind by Farrell. Is that a penalty? My memory tells me it used to be.

    DMac has had bad luck with that this year - he probably would have scored against the Boks if not for a direct hand hitting the ball and we probably would have scored in a phase if not for this one.

    DMac is a punching bag for some on here but those were both just unlucky (or awesome skill by the defender both times).

    He need not fear though because he will always have you and Crucial fluffing...

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    @act-crusader said in MOTM v England:

    @nepia said in MOTM v England:

    @jc said in MOTM v England:

    Re DMac, I don’t remember if it was him but one of our knock ons was shown in the replay to have been punched out of his arms from behind by Farrell. Is that a penalty? My memory tells me it used to be.

    DMac has had bad luck with that this year - he probably would have scored against the Boks if not for a direct hand hitting the ball and we probably would have scored in a phase if not for this one.

    DMac is a punching bag for some on here but those were both just unlucky (or awesome skill by the defender both times).

    He need not fear though because he will always have you and Crucial fluffing...

    🤣 We're at baby levels compared with your master class of fluffing ... anything in red'n'black.

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