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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

      The New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams for 2019 have been named:

      NEW ZEALAND SCHOOLS

      Name School
      Cam Church Saint Kentigern College
      Allan Craig Saint Kentigern College
      Vaiolini Ekuasi St Peter's Cambridge
      Zach Gallagher Christ's College
      Dom Gardiner St Bede's College
      Vincent Green Hamilton Boys' High School
      Meihana Grindlay King's College
      Wil Gualter Lincoln High School
      Finau Halafihi Auckland Grammar School
      Max Hughes Christchurch Boys' High School
      Corey Kellow Sacred Heart College
      Jacob Kneepkens Francis Douglas Memorial College
      Ollie Lewis Christchurch Boys' High School
      Ben Lopas Christchurch Boys' High School
      Ruben Love Palmerston Boys' High School
      Aidan Morgan King's College
      Blair Murray New Plymouth Boys' High School
      Manu Paea Rotorua Boys' High School
      Te Rama Reuben Saint Kentigern College
      Anton Segner Nelson College
      Jack Sexton St Andrew's College
      Roderick Solo Scots College
      Ben Strang Whanganui Collegiate
      Tiaan Tauakipulu Saint Kentigern College
      Gideon Wrampling St Paul's Collegiate

      .
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      NZ BARBARIANS SCHOOLS

      Name School
      Lattrell Ah Kiong Hastings Boys' High School
      Eto Bainivalu St Bede's College
      George Bell John McGlashan College
      James Brown King's College
      Taya Brown Nelson College
      Seb Calder St Andrew's College
      Tepaea Cook-Savage St Paul's Collegiate
      Matt Dobbyn Hamilton Boys' High School
      Leeroy Ferguson John McGlashan College
      Joseph Gavigan Manukura
      Julian Goerke Hasting Boys' High School
      Jamie Hannah Christchurch Boys' High School
      TK Howden Feilding High School
      Dayton Iobu King's College
      Treyah Kingi Saint Kentigern College
      Brian Leali'ifano Sacred Heart
      Giovanni Leituala King's High School
      Michael Manson Otago Boys' High School
      Jona Mataiciwa Saint Kentigern College
      Sosaia Moala Auckland Grammar
      Monu Moli Marlborough Boys' High School
      Alfred Nonu Tangaroa College
      Javarne Porter Whangarei Boys' High School
      Hakaraia Richards Coxhead Hamilton Boys' High School
      Leandro Vakatini King's College
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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        Reward for New Zealand’s top secondary school players with Schools’ teams announced

        Reward for New Zealand’s top secondary school players with Schools’ teams announced

        Players from 29 schools across the country have been named in the New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams for 2019, announced by New Zealand Rugby today.

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer last edited by

          WTF!!

          Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

          What a joke.

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          • Canes4life
            Canes4life @Stargazer last edited by Canes4life

            @Stargazer has Philpott moved from Under 20s to Schools? 😛

            Only one rep out of Wellington over both teams, that must be an all-time low.

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            • Chester Draws
              Chester Draws @Stargazer last edited by

              @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

              WTF!!

              Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

              What a joke.

              How many are eligible?

              I've seen teams where, between international players and players who are too old, almost none were even eligible to be picked for NZSS.

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              • Stargazer
                Stargazer @Canes4life last edited by

                @Canes4life It's quite bad if you see the small number of players from the Hurricanes region that were selected. One from Palmy Boys and one from Scots college in the NZ Schools team and two from Hastings Boys, one from Manukura, one from Feilding HS in the NZ Schools Barbarians team.

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                • Stargazer
                  Stargazer @Chester Draws last edited by

                  @Chester-Draws Apart from 5 to 6 players, all players from this year's Hastings Boys 1st XV will return next year. So the majority will be eligible. Several players are year 11.

                  Also, if they are eligible to play the Top 4 finals, doesn't that also mean they are eligible for NZ Schools?

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                  • Chester Draws
                    Chester Draws @Stargazer last edited by

                    @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                    @Chester-Draws Apart from 5 to 6 players, all players from this year's Hastings Boys 1st XV will return next year. So the majority will be eligible. Several players are year 11.

                    Also, if they are eligible to play the Top 4 finals, doesn't that also mean they are eligible for NZ Schools?

                    Everyone is under-represented, except inner Auckland.

                    Until you realise that population-wise, the Hurricanes zone has about the right amount. Just because we are divided into five franchises, doesn't mean that each franchise has even close to the same number of people.

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                    • Stargazer
                      Stargazer @Chester Draws last edited by

                      @Chester-Draws If I look at the list, I see schools under/overrepresented, not only regions.

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                      • Stargazer
                        Stargazer last edited by

                        Apparently, only one player in the Hastings 1st XV team was over 18. So that can't be the reason.

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                        • Nepia
                          Nepia @Chester Draws last edited by

                          @Chester-Draws said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                          @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                          @Chester-Draws Apart from 5 to 6 players, all players from this year's Hastings Boys 1st XV will return next year. So the majority will be eligible. Several players are year 11.

                          Also, if they are eligible to play the Top 4 finals, doesn't that also mean they are eligible for NZ Schools?

                          Everyone is under-represented, except inner Auckland.

                          Until you realise that population-wise, the Hurricanes zone has about the right amount. Just because we are divided into five franchises, doesn't mean that each franchise has even close to the same number of people.

                          That doesn't make much sense - the Canes have what, three players (by my rough calculation) in the team (including none from the top team in the region/country). The population of the region is nearly 1m.

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                          • Nepia
                            Nepia @Canes4life last edited by

                            @Canes4life said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                            @Stargazer has Philpott moved from Under 20s to Schools? 😛

                            Only one rep out of Wellington over both teams, that must be an all-time low.

                            As I noted on the other thread - the Hammettuer is coach.

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                            • Chester Draws
                              Chester Draws @Stargazer last edited by

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                              @Chester-Draws If I look at the list, I see schools under/overrepresented, not only regions.

                              As was ever so.

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                                98blueandgold last edited by

                                Before I get mobbed it is always hard to pick schools teams because of the geography and the fact that games between players competing for spots are rare unless they are in same comp.
                                In terms of hurricanes representation and more specifically Wellington I just don’t think Wellington schools rugby is very strong atm (hate begins) scots got comprehensively beaten by Hastings. Even go down to u15 and Wellington college and st pats town came 15/16 out of 16 teams at one comp while st pats silverstream came down the bottom half of hurricanes tournament (they were top of their comp).
                                The biggest surprise is some of sth island (whom I know reasonably well) selections which is more than in previous years. 4 from CBHS is ridiculous! Lopas and can understand even Max Hughes (although I think others in NZ have played better) other two I just don’t see how. Also two from St Andrews who as a team imploaded this year to finish 7th!! Although I see they have a member (or ex) as a skills coach iso wonder if that played a part.
                                Will Gualter I like and can see why as well as Segner and
                                In the end I assume that selectors know who is available and have had a good look at tapes/ live games.
                                With all that still like to say good luck to those selected!

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                                • Number 10
                                  Number 10 @Stargazer last edited by

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                  WTF!!

                                  Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

                                  What a joke.

                                  This is not the first time in recent years that the national champion has had zero players in the NZ Schools team:

                                  2018 winners St Peter's College - 1 player in NZ Schools
                                  2017 winners Hastings BHS - 6 players
                                  2016 winners Mt Albert Grammar - 4 players
                                  2015 winners Rotorua BHS - 0 players
                                  2014 co-winners Hamilton BHS - 2 players
                                  2014 co-winners Scots College - 3 players
                                  2013 winners Hamilton BHS - 4 players
                                  2012 winners St Kentigern College - 2 players

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                                  • Chester Draws
                                    Chester Draws @Number 10 last edited by

                                    @Number-10 said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                    WTF!!

                                    Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

                                    What a joke.

                                    This is not the first time in recent years that the national champion has had zero players in the NZ Schools team:

                                    2018 winners St Peter's College - 1 player in NZ Schools
                                    2017 winners Hastings BHS - 6 players
                                    2016 winners Mt Albert Grammar - 4 players
                                    2015 winners Rotorua BHS - 0 players
                                    2014 co-winners Hamilton BHS - 2 players
                                    2014 co-winners Scots College - 3 players
                                    2013 winners Hamilton BHS - 4 players
                                    2012 winners St Kentigern College - 2 players

                                    Goodness me, don't bring facts into it! Are you new to the Fern? Outrage is required here, and the fact that many others have suffered a similar fate isn't helpful.

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                                    • canefan
                                      canefan @Chester Draws last edited by

                                      @Chester-Draws said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                      @Number-10 said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                      @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                      WTF!!

                                      Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

                                      What a joke.

                                      This is not the first time in recent years that the national champion has had zero players in the NZ Schools team:

                                      2018 winners St Peter's College - 1 player in NZ Schools
                                      2017 winners Hastings BHS - 6 players
                                      2016 winners Mt Albert Grammar - 4 players
                                      2015 winners Rotorua BHS - 0 players
                                      2014 co-winners Hamilton BHS - 2 players
                                      2014 co-winners Scots College - 3 players
                                      2013 winners Hamilton BHS - 4 players
                                      2012 winners St Kentigern College - 2 players

                                      Goodness me, don't bring facts into it! Are you new to the Fern? Outrage is required here, and the fact that many others have suffered a similar fate isn't helpful.

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                                      • mimic
                                        mimic @Stargazer last edited by

                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                        @Chester-Draws Apart from 5 to 6 players, all players from this year's Hastings Boys 1st XV will return next year. So the majority will be eligible. Several players are year 11.

                                        Also, if they are eligible to play the Top 4 finals, doesn't that also mean they are eligible for NZ Schools?

                                        IIRC, I think they picked the main team that was mainly Year 13s, and the Baabaas were mainly Year 12s.
                                        So if they are Year 11, I'm assuming that's why they weren't picked.
                                        That was in the past, so not sure if it's still the same.

                                        Does anyone have a breakdown of the Year Levels of the players?

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                                        • Nepia
                                          Nepia @Chester Draws last edited by

                                          @Chester-Draws said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                          @Number-10 said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                          @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                          WTF!!

                                          Hastings Boys win the National Top 4 and have ZERO players in the NZ Schools team, and only TWO in the NZ Barbarians team!

                                          What a joke.

                                          This is not the first time in recent years that the national champion has had zero players in the NZ Schools team:

                                          2018 winners St Peter's College - 1 player in NZ Schools
                                          2017 winners Hastings BHS - 6 players
                                          2016 winners Mt Albert Grammar - 4 players
                                          2015 winners Rotorua BHS - 0 players
                                          2014 co-winners Hamilton BHS - 2 players
                                          2014 co-winners Scots College - 3 players
                                          2013 winners Hamilton BHS - 4 players
                                          2012 winners St Kentigern College - 2 players

                                          Goodness me, don't bring facts into it! Are you new to the Fern? Outrage is required here, and the fact that many others have suffered a similar fate isn't helpful.

                                          Yes, I have a chance for more outrage, by many you mean one? Add this to your population projection for the Canes region and it seems you have a trumpian outlook on size and numbers. 😉

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                                          • Chester Draws
                                            Chester Draws @98blueandgold last edited by

                                            @98blueandgold said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                            Before I get mobbed it is always hard to pick schools teams because of the geography and the fact that games between players competing for spots are rare unless they are in same comp.

                                            http://www.nzrugby.co.nz/what-we-do/national-teams/new-zealand-schools

                                            They aren't just judged on their school games. There's camps, and provincial games etc.

                                            But going to a big school is a massive bonus. We recently had a student at my school that should have been in the secondary school team, but didn't go to the right school. He made it to U20 squad, once free of that problem.

                                            @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                            Apparently, only one player in the Hastings 1st XV team was over 18. So that can't be the reason.

                                            They pretty much all have to be now, after a rule change, if I understood the rules correctly. Only two can be over 18 at the start of the year.

                                            I can't find the eligibility requirements for international schoolboy games though. I thought that it was younger than under 18 on the 1st January because of the different school years of NH teams.

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                                              98blueandgold @Chester Draws last edited by

                                              @Chester-Draws I agree as I am also involved in schools rugby as well and have seen this a lot. 20s is where players should be aiming for not schools. What I was pointing out was the camps are a snapshot in a very short space of time. If you do not perform there that maybe your only chance so unless you are at a big school that is on tv or you are playing g a player regularly that you are in competition with it would be hard to make team.

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                                              • shark
                                                shark last edited by shark

                                                8 from Crusaders region schools in the top team is a pretty high representation. 30% or thereabouts. Zero from any Highlanders region schools but four from there in the Barbarians side. Two from my Dad's old school John McGlashan and one each from Kings HS and OBHS. It'd be pretty rare for OBHS to not have the greatest proportion of players, of Dunedin schools.

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                                                • Stargazer
                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                  There has been some delay in the team naming of the NZ Māori U18 squad, today. I guess there was an unexpected abundance of choice after the NZ Schools and Barbarians Schools team naming. I'm keen to find out how many players from Hastings and Hamilton BHS will end up in this squad.

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                                                  • Stargazer
                                                    Stargazer last edited by

                                                    New Zealand Māori Under 18 teams named

                                                    The Ngā Whatukura team will assemble in Rotorua on 17 September before matches against Fiji Schools (22 September) and in the game of three halves in Palmerston North against the New Zealand Schools and the New Zealand Schools Barbarians (26 September).
                                                    

                                                    The New Zealand Māori U18 Ngā Whatukura team is;

                                                    Name School/club Iwi
                                                    Blake Rogers Scots College Te Aupouri
                                                    Carlos Karaitiana Rotorua BHS Ngāti Porou, Tūhoe
                                                    Cassius Misa Te Teko Rugby & Sport Club Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Ethan Seed Francis Douglas MC Te Atiawa
                                                    Harry Hansen Otago BHS Ngāti Porou
                                                    Hemopo Cunningham Rotorua BHS Ngāti Pikiao
                                                    Hunter Nuku Taradale RFC Ngāti Kahungunu, Ngāi Tai
                                                    Jacob Ward Napier BHS Ngāti Porou, Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Jayden Walker Napier BHS Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Jock McKenzie Westlake BHS Ngāti Maniapoto
                                                    Jordan Thompson-Dunn Hastings BHS Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Kaharoa Takuira-Mita Tauranga BHS Ngāti Rangi, Ngāti Ranginui
                                                    Keegan McGregor Christchurch BHS Ngāti Raukawa
                                                    Mercedes Hodge Hastings BHS Tūwharetoa
                                                    Nephi Sanireve Trident High School Ngāti Awa, Tūwharetoa ki Kawerau
                                                    Nikora Broughton Arataki Sports Club Ngāti Ruanui
                                                    Niwa Barlow New Plymouth BHS Tūwharetoa
                                                    Noah Hotham Hamilton BHS Ngāi Tai
                                                    Rocky Olsen Whangarei BHS Ngāti Whātua
                                                    Stuart Leach Rotorua BHS Ngāti Porou, Tūhoe
                                                    Tamaikoha Te Aute Rangiuru Sports Club Te Arawa
                                                    Taylor Dale Otago BHS Ngāpuhi, Ngāti Whātua
                                                    Thomas Murray-Edwards New Plymouth BHS Ngāti Whakaue
                                                    Tiaki Fabish Old Boys University, Wellington Ngāti Maniapoto, Te Whānau ā Apanui
                                                    Valance Yates St Kentigern College Ngāpuhi

                                                    Ngā Kaiako/Kaiwhakahaere

                                                    Name Role Iwi
                                                    Kahu Carey Head Coach Rangitāne, Ngāti Apa ki te Rā Tō
                                                    Jeremy Wara Forwards Coach Tainui, Ngāti Tahinga, Ngāti Tiipa
                                                    Ngatai Walker Backs Coach Ngāti Porou
                                                    Simon Kneebone Set Piece Coach Ngāti Porou
                                                    Duncan Cameron Manager Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa,Te Whānau ā Apanui, Rangitāne
                                                    Mihaere Emery Cultural Advisor Tahoe, Ngāti Awa, Ngāti Maniapoto, Ngāti Koroki Kahukura, Ngāti Raukawa
                                                    Tiki Edwards Campaign Manager Whakatōhea, Ngāti Raukawa

                                                    .

                                                    The New Zealand Māori Rugby Board also acknowledged and celebrated the players selected in the U18 Ngā Mareikura team. While there is no match for the under 18 girls in 2019, Palmer said the Board wanted to congratulate the efforts of the young wahine athletes this season and commented that efforts were being made to ensure a programme for this team would be established in future years.
                                                    

                                                    The NZ Māori U18 Ngā Mareikura team is:

                                                    Name School/club Iwi
                                                    Jaylyn Campbell Waitakere City Rugby Club Te Rarawa
                                                    Tuia Edwards Hastings GHS Ngāti Kahungungu
                                                    Vici Rose Green Hamilton GHS Ngāti Maniapoto
                                                    Daeja Kaponga Putaruru College Ngāti Raukawa
                                                    Jurney Blair Te Rarawa Rugby Club Te Rarawa
                                                    Mia Anderson Kerikeri High school Ngāpuhi
                                                    Savannah Bodman Kamo High school Ngāpuhi
                                                    Raegan Robinson Karamu High school Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Milly Mackay Petone RFC Ngāti Porou
                                                    Alesha Williams New Plymouth GHS Te Atiawa
                                                    Mania Nuku Hamilton GHS Ngai Te Rangi, Ngāti Ranginui
                                                    Kelsey Teneti Lytton High School Ngāti Porou, Te Whānau ā Apanui
                                                    Shaniqka Wall Nga Paerangi Manukura School Ngāti Tūwharetoa
                                                    Cortez Te Pou Karamu High School Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Raumati Rogers Marlborough Girls College Tūhoe
                                                    Charm Sandilands Karamu High School Ngāti Kahungunu, Ngāi Tahu
                                                    Holly Topp Tauranga Girls’ College Ngāi Tahu
                                                    Layla Te Rini Trident High Schoo Tūwharetoa
                                                    Klee Begbie Putaruru College Ngāti Raukawa
                                                    Karlee Cruickshank Central Southland Ngāpuhi
                                                    Jamie Church Kavanagh Collage Ngāti Maniapoto, Tūwharetoa, Te Arawa, Ngāti Porou
                                                    Naia Toaolamai-Holden Christchurch Girls High Te Atiawa, Ngāti Porou
                                                    Shania Kohinga North Otago Ngāti Maniapoto Ngāti Tūwharetoa
                                                    Jasmine Oconnell Manukura Ngati-Kahungunu, Ngāti-Maniapoto
                                                    Calista Ruruku University of Waikato Te Atihaunui-ā-Pāpārangi

                                                    Ngā Kaiako/Kaiwhakahaere

                                                    Name Role Iwi
                                                    Jayson McRoberts Head Coach Ngāti Kahungunu
                                                    Caleb Angew-Jones Assistant coach Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa
                                                    Geri Paul Assistant Coach Ngāti Awa
                                                    Paula Taylor Anderson Manager Te Atiawa
                                                    Tamara Toaloamai Assistant manager Ngāti Porou, Ngāti Hāmoa
                                                    Tuterangi Nepe-Apatu Support Ngāti Kahungunu
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                                                    • Magpie_in_aus
                                                      Magpie_in_aus last edited by

                                                      It's amazing what a good program can do (when its like mens and all the best talent ends up at the best schools). I use to ref the hastings girls games back in the early 2000's I would call them off with like 20 minutes to go as a sign of mercy they were honestly that bad. Good sign for girls rugby where a lot of them don't start playing until high school and don't pick there schools based on the rugby teams (im sure some do but not as large a % as boys rugby)

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                                                      • Duluth
                                                        Duluth last edited by

                                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/115883898/new-zealand-schools-coach-mark-hammett-explains-hastings-boys-snub

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                                                        • Toddy
                                                          Toddy last edited by

                                                          Good to see Hammett still trolling @Nepia

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                                                            • Nepia
                                                              Nepia @Toddy last edited by

                                                              @Toddy said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                                              Good to see Hammett still trolling @Nepia

                                                              I think that the Hastings Boys guys can be proud, snubbed like Ma'a by the Hammetuer.

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                                                              • Rapido
                                                                Rapido @Nepia last edited by

                                                                @Nepia said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                                                @Toddy said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                                                Good to see Hammett still trolling @Nepia

                                                                I think that the Hastings Boys guys can be proud, snubbed like Ma'a by the Hammetuer.

                                                                TO think, those Hastings boys would have only be 9 or 10 years old when Hammett began as Haurricanes coach in 2011. Where as members of the Rotorua 1st XV would have been about 15 years old back then.

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                                                                  2-3-2 last edited by

                                                                  Interesting that after the Maori team (all players who were left out of the NZSS and Barbarians teams in favor of foreign players) after beating Fiji Schools and the Barbarians last year, the 2019 Maori team is tasked with playing in a "game of three halves" against the NZSS and Barbarians teams. A rugby know-it-all at work didn't think that was strange at all - But then again he's a bit slow in the face.

                                                                  *Foreign Players - Players who, like the "red sea" if their own countries were playing against the ABs or Kiwis, they'd be supporting their actual countries and and staying true to their true colors (not black)

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                                                                  • Bovidae
                                                                    Bovidae last edited by

                                                                    I've been away so won't be trawling through the thread but the Top 4 doesn't mean a lot for NZ Schools selection, as the majority of the squad weren't even there. As an example, the only Hamilton BHS player (Green) selected was injured so wasn't in Palmy, and CBHS has 3 players but couldn't beat Nelson.

                                                                    From what I have been told team is pretty much selected before then and the Super U18s competition is also important in identifying the talent and seeing how the players perform in that environment. You could argue that St Kents is still the school to go to for higher recognition. I believe there is also an unofficial rule where Yr 11 players aren't selected as they have 2 more years of eligibility. Quite a few players from the 2018 NZ Barbarians team have graduated to the 2019 NZS squad.

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                                                                    • Stargazer
                                                                      Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                                                                      @Bovidae said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                                                      I've been away so won't be trawling through the thread but the Top 4 doesn't mean a lot for NZ Schools selection, as the majority of the squad weren't even there. As an example, the only Hamilton BHS player (Green) selected was injured so wasn't in Palmy, and CBHS has 3 players but couldn't beat Nelson.

                                                                      From what I have been told team is pretty much selected before then and the Super U18s competition is also important in identifying the talent and seeing how the players perform in that environment. You could argue that St Kents is still the school to go to for higher recognition. I believe there is also an unofficial rule where Yr 11 players aren't selected as they have 2 more years of eligibility. Quite a few players from the 2018 NZ Barbarians team have graduated to the 2019 NZS squad.

                                                                      That, in itself, is a worry, considering the 2018 NZ Schools Barbarians squad was beaten by both Fiji Schools and NZ Maori U18, last year. Hopefully, these players have improved a lot since then.

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                                                                      • Bovidae
                                                                        Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by Bovidae

                                                                        @Stargazer It may also suggest the younger players are selected for the NZ Baabaas first. Zach Gallagher, the lock the Cantabs have talked up, is one of those players.

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                                                                        • Stargazer
                                                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                                                          Disappointing that there is so little publicity being given to the schools teams, this year. I guess part of that is due to the RWC, although the lack of news and livestreaming of the U19s tournament by NZR may also point at cost-cutting or other reasons.

                                                                          Anyway, today, New Zealand Māori U18 play Fiji Schools at Rotorua Boys High School. Kick-off 2pm.

                                                                          This is from Māori TV:

                                                                          Building better rugby players and better men

                                                                          Building better rugby players and better men

                                                                          The New Zealand Māori U18 boys rugby team, Ngā Whatukura, are in camp ahead of their test against Fiji U18 tomorrow in Rotorua. But as our reporter Te Kuru...

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                                                                            Halftime: NZ Maori 12 v Fiji 8

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                                                                                Zach Gallagher has been named the captain of the NZ Schools team.

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                                                                                  @Bovidae The kid is a beast. You don’t see many 17 yr old white kids as big as him. Be interesting to see who starts at 1st five. Ollie Lewis is a great player but I think Aidan Morgan may be better

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                                                                                    @chchfanatic Is he bigger than Josh Lord and Sam Darry?

                                                                                    It's hard to know who starts if you aren't familiar with all of the players and their positions. Based on last year's team Segner should be at 7, Kneepkens and Wrampling on the wings, and Murray at fullback. Grindlay will be in the midfield.

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