Tasman vs North Harbour



  • @Stargazer I thought Christie was not great today, a credit to Harbour putting on heaps of pressure at Breakdown.



  • @Steven-Harris said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @Nepia all good...I got a precious on that one..Got plenty of time for Taufua..he plays well above his physical stature ..

    I’m not a huge fan, think he’s slightly overrated and always though he should have converted to 7 ... but that’s just my opinion, I know he’s got his fans out there.



  • Well, the first half was shit. Big Karl showing he's ready for a trip to Japan if necessary - and the Mako showing they need some of their first string front row firepower back.

    Second half was a lot better, but attack still looked laboured and set piece a bit dysfunctional. Dare I say it, that we missed Mitch Hunt quite badly. I would have given Leicester some DM points.

    In the end, I think better fitness and better bench depth got it over the line for Tasman.

    Freddie doesn't have much to say about this one.

    "The show must go on"! 🙂



  • @Nepia listen I totally get that ..if he was more sizeable I think he would be a shoe in as an All Black number 6..



  • @Steven-Harris said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @Stargazer I thought Christie was not great today, a credit to Harbour putting on heaps of pressure at Breakdown.

    Yeah - though he wasn't helped by the Mako forwards standing there looking at the ruck and waiting for NH to lock onto the ball.

    First half - done in the scrums, done at the breakdown, and a lineout shambles.





  • @KiwiMurph said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    So the Harbour guy gets binned for a penalty try but Tasman don't get a player carded when they concede a penalty try.

    Even though Tasman is my team - in principle I don't really mind that.

    If you're getting done over at the scrum, you don't really have a choice about standing up/collapsing/folding in. You're not necessarily cheating intentionally - you're just getting dominated.

    In fact, the rules surrounding it are a bit dodgy - because often you have a scrum that's getting dominated - you send a prop to the bin and then require a weak scrum to front up with seven men, which seems bloody dangerous to me.



  • @Chris-B said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @KiwiMurph said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    So the Harbour guy gets binned for a penalty try but Tasman don't get a player carded when they concede a penalty try.

    Even though Tasman is my team - in principle I don't really mind that.

    If you're getting done over at the scrum, you don't really have a choice about standing up/collapsing/folding in. You're not necessarily cheating intentionally - you're just getting dominated.

    That's not necessarily true - it's certainly possible you are cheating intentionally to avoid a pushover try.

    The optics aren't great when right before that scrum the ref had warned the Tasman captain about how further penalties would result in a Tasman player going to the bin.



  • @KiwiMurph That still happened though; at the time of the first penalty after the penalty try.



  • @KiwiMurph I don't think Tasman were intentionally cheating though - it was pretty clear that their scrum was getting dominated, but trying to hold up - and that Harbour was scrumming for the penalty.

    Tasman wasn't just immediately folding - they were holding initially and plenty of opportunity for Harbour to have cleared the ball if they wanted - they didn't want to.


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