@Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v New Zealand Barbarians:

Neither the 1964 or 1981 games against the Barbarians are included in the official Māori games played that year (based on what is listed in The Encyclopedia of New Zealand Rugby). In 1981, for example, the Māori only played Counties and then South Africa.

The 1964 match is not a first-class fixture because it was played on a Sunday. Matches in NZ played on a Sunday did not qualify for first-class status until 1970.

The 1982 Rugby Almanack refers to the 1981 match as a Maori Invitation XV v NZ Barbarians. It was NOT NZ Maori v NZ Barbarians but is a first-class fixture.

@Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks v England:

@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v England:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v England:

@TheMojoman Stevenson or Lam?

I'd love to see Stevenson in the mix but IMO he would be competing for the 14 spot with Jordan, Telea and Reece potentially as 15 cover. Lam is a maybe, not sure he has the same impact as Clarke though as a power winger.

Foster (rightly IMO) clearly wants to play a power winger/finesse winger combination with his 14 also an extra FB with kicking etc. Leads me to believe Jordan will be the first choice 14 when fit. Telea has been the find of the northern tour.

I'm on the Shaun Stevenson bandwagon. He needs to be and AB.

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@Bones said in France vs Springboks:

I guess this goes here?

Ben James  /  Dec 14, 2022  /  Rugby News Wayne Barnes considered quitting after threats to family over Erasmus criticism Wayne Barnes considered quitting after threats to family over Erasmus criticism

The abuse came after Barnes took charge of South Africa's defeat to France last month

Barnes siding with the French over a controversial match? well I never...

this looks like it could also go in the conspiracy theory thread, recently known as the Laporte thread.. its evidence he is corrupt lol!

@OomPB 😁

@Dan54 nothing memorable in this game - I was speaking generally about home broadcasters.

Your point about the TMO is valid BUT that doesn't stop the OB director replaying stuff up on the big screen and getting the ref to check.

Happened to us several times on EOYT last year.

@Higgins Hika turns 37 in January.

@Crucial would've liked to see an aerial/zoomed out view - look to be some nice deception with maybe some of the inside backs on the right sweeping left too. Would open up huge space anywhere on the field.

England winger Lydia Thompson appeared before an independent judicial committee on Monday, 21 November having received a red card in the Rugby World Cup 2021 final on 12 November, 2022. The red card was awarded for an offence pursuant to Law 9.13 (Dangerous tackle).

The player accepted that she had committed the act of foul play and that the offence was worthy of a red card. Having considered the player’s evidence and reviewed the clips, the Committee applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point for foul play resulting in contact with the head. This resulted in a starting point of a six match suspension.

The Committee took into consideration the mitigating factors and decided that the player was entitled to the full mitigation available (three matches). The Committee decided there were no aggravating factors and therefore the final sanction was a three-match suspension.

The player is therefore suspended for the following matches:

Worcester Women v Wasps Women – 17 December, 2022 Worcester Women v DMP Sharks – 31 December, 2022 Worcester Women v Gloucester-Hartpury – 7 January, 2023*

*The player may apply to take part in the World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme to substitute the final match of the sanction for a coaching intervention aimed at modifying specific techniques and technical issues that contributed to the foul play.

worldrugby.org Independent disciplinary process update: Lydia Thompson (England) | World Rugby Independent disciplinary process update: Lydia Thompson (England) | World Rugby

England winger Lydia Thompson has been suspended for three matches having received a red card in the Rugby World Cup 2021 final for an offence pursuant to Law 9.13 (Dangerous tackle).

@booboo said in Wales v Georgia:

@Catogrande said in Wales v Georgia:

@Kiwiwomble

Just what is wrong with having the traditional colours with ONE back up change?

England have gone from white unless a clash, in which case black, to all the colours of the fucking rainbow including purple FFS and for no real reason at all, save for trying to milk a few quid. If ever there was an example of the law of diminishing returns better than that, I’d, well I’d cheer on Wales!

Why would England's change strip not be red? Or maybe blue?

Why would it?

Traditionally it was always black, though hardly ever used. Not sure why black but there you are, it is what it is. Until the marketing fluffybunnies get involved.

LibBok performance

@cgrant I be pleased if Lomax does, I really got on his wagon we first arrived at Tasman, just loved how he scrummed, had a back so straight you coauld put a cuppa on it, but took a while to really come through. I from old school that reckom a real straight back allows the power coming through from behind to go where it sholud.

Surely - SURELY - after Luke Pearce's "bicep, not shoulder" yellow card against Scotland v Wallabies a few weeks back, Kremer escapes any form of punishment and should get an apology for that horrible decision?

Yes waiter, I had the sour grapes. Put them here next to my whine.

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@Stargazer said in Tonga v Uruguay:

What this shows is that Tonga is stronger than most other tier 3 countries.

Tonga is tier 3? Clearly I don't know WTF the tiers are now.

Forgot to post the FT score:

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Romania 0 - 22 Samoa
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All points scored in the first half.

Good game from Samoa. Dominating in the first half, and did well stopping Romania from scoring when they became a bit more adventurous in the second half.

@Duluth
I am not a fan of him as he is too indisciplined, but I have to admit that Kirifi had a storming NPC. He was the form 7 of the competition IMO.

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

@nostrildamus yeah, reminds me of when they tried using crash ball from the blind side with bridge....its like their tactical decisions are not actually related to let alone based on the actual players they select

One crash ball by DH was spectacularly ineffective!

FiFY

Good first half & terrible second from the Baabaas. Fun game to watch until th 60-minute mark, after that it was just awfully bad.

FT: Harlequins 73 - 28 Barbarians

15 tries in total

@NTA said in Ireland v Fiji:

I'm 7 minutes into the replay and already count one high shot right in front of the AR on a taking player and the cannonball by green 7 that was actually penalised

sounds like a great cocktail-drinking game.

@MiketheSnow said in Wales v Argentina 12 Nov 22:

I must have been watching a different match

When the stadium announcer said ‘and today’s MOTM is…’

Everyone around me said Tomos Williams

He is everything wrong with Welsh rugby

Faletau put a tremendous shift in

But Tompkins MOTM for me

Without him we don’t look like scoring

North must be pound for pound the weakest player in the Welsh team

Dyer went well again

LRZ looked very comfortable at 15

Terrible coaching putting Rowlands back on

Or maybe gunshy from all the head knocks ?

@Nepia It was free for all on YouTube. Link posted earlier in thread.

@NTA said in Italy v Australia:

@MN5 said in Italy v Australia:

@NTA said in Italy v Australia:

@ACT-Crusader said in Italy v Australia:

@Winger said in Italy v Australia:

WTF. Bad result for NZ as we need a stronger Aust. Hope the team can sort themselves out and win at least one of their next 2 games

Yeah nah.

The ABs will continue to play what’s in front of them when it comes to the Wallabies. They’ve been inconsistent over the past 15 years - from very good to very poor. They don’t have great depth (not that unusual) and there were a bunch of newish players in this side. They didn’t perform and were whistled off the park because of poor discipline.

Look longer term: we're a tier 2 nation. Everyone who thinks we're top tier haven't looked at the history of mostly average work, garnished with a couple of awesome stretches where we punched above our weight.

You only just beat Scotland. It doesn’t get much lower than that

And could so easily have lost .... Bar the massive choke from Kinghorn...

They were keeping the powder dry for the victory over the ABs tomorrow.

@Billy-Tell said in England v Japan:

Japan tactics are baffling. They are not going to win by taking 3s.

Or running it from everywhere

This game showed there's three teams and then everyone else.

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wales:

Dagg showing that maybe the standard of education at fancy pants private schools isn't that great. 😉

Well this is triggering cc: @Magpie_in_aus

@Bovidae said in France v Australia:

Holloway is the player who has really stood up this year with his physicality . Fainga'a has a habit of missing key lineout throws.

The try on HT was the real killer blow.

I think there was a knock on by Fickou.

@Daffy-Jaffy first Seibold now Hodgson. What’s with the Aussie leaguies for defence coaches?

@MajorRage said in Ireland v South Africa:

@pakman said in Ireland v South Africa:

@pakman said in Ireland v South Africa:

Just saw clip which showed Hansen try came from an illegal kick through ruck by Keenan.

Georgian tryo was looking right at ruck and missed it.

🤔

I genuinely feel sorry for whoever took all that time to make that video. Genuinely.

He does one after every Boks match...

@WillieTheWaiter said in All Blacks XV vs Ireland A:

@MiketheSnow

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks XV vs Ireland A:

@akan004 said in All Blacks XV vs Ireland A:

Ffs how is that a yellow

YC every day and twice on Sunday

Came at speed, in from the side, and hit the man late

WTF is this 'came at speed' bullshit.. saw the same thing with Brodies card

didn't realise there was a speed limit in rugby

Wasn't a tap

Brought his full force from distance; illegally in from the side where the Irish player was unsighted so couldn't defend himself; and hit him late

That's a pretty shit thing to do and deserves a YC

@Higgins Yeah, I watched the game live. Quality of the stream was HD and really good, but not many camera angles and no TMO. Good game to watch.

They now get an attacking structure, which was non existing in a recent past. Garbisi is an excellent 1st five, he is controlling the game very well. What they lack is a power runner up front. Is Polledri still injured ?

@TeWaio said in Scotland v Fiji:

Based on how Scotland looked, we should have a similar scoreline against them next week as today against Wales.

Yeah, but last night suggests it was the unbeaten record against Scotland that Foster has his eye on, not the 50 year old Welsh record. Our Foster aims high don't forget.

The pressure of playing in a World Cup semi final really showed in both matches more so in this one I thought.

Canada have played an expansive game throughout the tournament and you could see they wanted to do it but fluffed several opportunities. Some paid off, but there were more chances.

England have used a narrow attacking pattern and love the forward drive but they too made a hash of several opportunities and then their defensive alignment was found wanting.

A couple of impressive tries in the match and well done to England. Really looking forward to the final.

@nostrildamus think mate Mounga doesn't go that well with an inside centre type player as much as a 2nd 5/8, someone who plays first receiver a bit and allows him to take the ball a little wider. With the Crusaders off set play especially early in game, Havili often takes the ball off set play. Not a criticism of Mounga, but just something I have seen.

Just saw Young's yellow card from this game. What an absolute shocker. That's as clear a red as you'll see.

@pakman unseen? Hardly. Still evident v Japan

@mariner4life said in Black Ferns v Wales QF - RWC:

@ACT-Crusader said in Black Ferns v Wales QF - RWC:

@Jailbreak7 said in Black Ferns v Wales QF - RWC:

Main diff between mens and womens game is that the BFs really enjoy themselves out there, all smiles and really want to play for each other.. Shot of the bench showed teamates relaxed and having fun. Think the mens game has lost that spark and energy somewhere. Weight of Expectation? Too serious, need to lighten up and play with more freedom and the passes will stick.

You still see the ABs getting excited and celebrating. Sometimes it looks out of relief (eg Melbourne Bledisloe and final try) and others just genuine joy and excitement in the moment no matter at what point in the game it happens.

Just some of my thoughts, but you can’t overlook factors like the amount of money involved in the game, the fine line between being in and being cut for many players, the whole ‘AB legacy’ vs ‘play my own game’ tension. This does build pressure and expectation within and from the outside.

Fuck, take this place as a microcosm, times it by a millions for Stuff and Facebook

Have a look at the comments directed at any fucking player that dares to show a bit of emotion on the field. To celebrate. To puff the chest when they do something cool. You think that doesn't filter back to the fucking players?

NZ is still a very serious introverted little backwater in many ways. The ABs are still supposed to be stoic farmer types. Jog back to half way like it's nothing or you are a flash fluffybunny with a shit selfish attitude.

Good on the girls for ignoring that shit. But let's not pretend the pressure or expectation is the same

They can show the way though.

I tell you what. Clubs around the country better be gearing up for a boom in their womens teams next year. There will be a few that a happy if they hopped on the bus a little earlier as well.

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