Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Will follow the rules for close contacts including duration (so 10 days to start, will drop when our close contact rules drop). Arrivals get 3 RATs, one for day 0/1, one for day 5/6, a spare one just in case. Any positive tests then get a PCR test and go from there.
Sticking with end of Feb is to allow 3 weeks for uptake of boosters based on the new 3 month interval.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I notice this morning there are a couple of articles on the herald about how NZ reputation taking a hammering MIQ etc etc.
Articles are premium so I can't read them, but I do wonder if the editor has realised that NZ media is arguably the biggest problem due to their complete and utter inability to seriously question the government.
I strongly doubt that, but I did see this pop up in my feed, which makes me wonder if the media has realized that now there is some value in questioning the government (either that of the FB algorithm is working perfectly):
Bloody hell. I read that article and was staggered no-one had thought this sort of stuff thru.
Sure, it's tricky for any government to deal with the pandemic and loads of mistakes are going to be made at the start like pensions for people trapped overseas - but you get on and fix them. This is incompetence on a grand scale and that it's allowed to continue shows a lack of political leadership bordering on callousness.
Why are you so surprised? Without the distractions of covid19 and the Christchurch mosque attack, what have they done? Kiwibuild? Nope. 1M trees? Nope. Auckland light rail? Nope. Eradicate child poverty? Nope Nope Nope. That's a whole lot of futility
I point you to the NZ politics thread for a partial list of completed work I compiled.
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Will follow the rules for close contacts including duration (so 10 days to start, will drop when our close contact rules drop). Arrivals get 3 RATs, one for day 0/1, one for day 5/6, a spare one just in case. Any positive tests then get a PCR test and go from there.
Sticking with end of Feb is to allow 3 weeks for uptake of boosters based on the new 3 month interval.
10 days, wow, that rules us out.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Will follow the rules for close contacts including duration (so 10 days to start, will drop when our close contact rules drop). Arrivals get 3 RATs, one for day 0/1, one for day 5/6, a spare one just in case. Any positive tests then get a PCR test and go from there.
Sticking with end of Feb is to allow 3 weeks for uptake of boosters based on the new 3 month interval.
10 days, wow, that rules us out.
Apparently it drops to 7 at some point:
That means currently, returning New Zealanders will need to self-isolate for 10 days. But as the isolation period drops for close contacts here in New Zealand, as it does in phase two of our Omicron response, so too will returnees only need to isolate for 7 days.
Edit, while not having a timeframe, also:
And on that point I want to note that we will be continually monitoring the need for and the value of self-isolation. The strong advice from our public health officials is that we still need it to manage our way through Omicron, but there will be a time in the not too distant future when that will not be the case. For now though we must continue to heed the public health advice that has served us so well."
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Will follow the rules for close contacts including duration (so 10 days to start, will drop when our close contact rules drop). Arrivals get 3 RATs, one for day 0/1, one for day 5/6, a spare one just in case. Any positive tests then get a PCR test and go from there.
Sticking with end of Feb is to allow 3 weeks for uptake of boosters based on the new 3 month interval.
10 days, wow, that rules us out.
Apparently it drops to 7 at some point:
That means currently, returning New Zealanders will need to self-isolate for 10 days. But as the isolation period drops for close contacts here in New Zealand, as it does in phase two of our Omicron response, so too will returnees only need to isolate for 7 days.
Edit, while not having a timeframe, also:
And on that point I want to note that we will be continually monitoring the need for and the value of self-isolation. The strong advice from our public health officials is that we still need it to manage our way through Omicron, but there will be a time in the not too distant future when that will not be the case. For now though we must continue to heed the public health advice that has served us so well."
Monitoring the need for it to go down or up, I imagine...
So glad I got vaccinated, feels great to be free again
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Um...Am I missing something? Why Australia first? Their numbers are as bad as anyone's.....actually worse than some other countries. What is the rationale?
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@old-samurai-jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Um...Am I missing something? Why Australia first? Their numbers are as bad as anyone's.....actually worse than some other countries. What is the rationale?
Not stated, but my guess is so the recent batch of travellers stuck when the bubble popped can get back. Also it's where most offshore NZ citizens and residents are, so will have the biggest single positive impact.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Um...Am I missing something? Why Australia first? Their numbers are as bad as anyone's.....actually worse than some other countries. What is the rationale?
It doesn't seem to be Covid case-specific in other nations, more about resuming the flow of people in a staged manner. Oz is probably first based on the sheer number of expats.
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Right on cue (Stuff live blog):
2 minutes ago
PM on why Australia was chosen for the first stage:
She notes the trans- Ta$man relationship is important to us and second "it's close to home".
It couldn't be everyone at once because of the need to scale up predeparture and isolation systems, Ardern says.
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so a "plan" very light on when the need for self-iso will end? This isn't a plan, it's a bunch of loose dates.
How the fuck NZ can be this late to move, watch everyone else, and still learn the wrong lesson that they can "manage" this is beyond me.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Um...Am I missing something? Why Australia first? Their numbers are as bad as anyone's.....actually worse than some other countries. What is the rationale?
i assumed it had to do with several things like aussie having a high vaccination rate, higher than lots of countries, the share number of kiwis over here and how generally we've been very use to being able to come and go very easily, and there are people that we're "caught" overseas that have managed to get to aussie as it close to home
we're trying to figure out, if we went home and quarantined at our folks place. do they have to quarantine too, or can the come and go
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
so a "plan" very light on when the need for self-iso will end? This isn't a plan, it's a bunch of loose dates.
How the fuck NZ can be this late to move, watch everyone else, and still learn the wrong lesson that they can "manage" this is beyond me.
It's a great thing for permanent returnees - they won't care whether iso is 5 days, 7 days or even 15 - just get the flights running and skip MIQ.
For those wanting to visit family or just spend some tourist $, it means nada...
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
we're trying to figure out, if we went home and quarantined at our folks place. do they have to quarantine too, or can the come and go
If it is consistent with current policies they would have to isolate if they have any contact with you.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
we're trying to figure out, if we went home and quarantined at our folks place. do they have to quarantine too, or can the come and go
If it is consistent with current policies they would have to isolate if they have any contact with you.
i just read they don't? What is the point?
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I notice this morning there are a couple of articles on the herald about how NZ reputation taking a hammering MIQ etc etc.
Articles are premium so I can't read them, but I do wonder if the editor has realised that NZ media is arguably the biggest problem due to their complete and utter inability to seriously question the government.
I strongly doubt that, but I did see this pop up in my feed, which makes me wonder if the media has realized that now there is some value in questioning the government (either that of the FB algorithm is working perfectly):
Bloody hell. I read that article and was staggered no-one had thought this sort of stuff thru.
Sure, it's tricky for any government to deal with the pandemic and loads of mistakes are going to be made at the start like pensions for people trapped overseas - but you get on and fix them. This is incompetence on a grand scale and that it's allowed to continue shows a lack of political leadership bordering on callousness.
Why are you so surprised? Without the distractions of covid19 and the Christchurch mosque attack, what have they done? Kiwibuild? Nope. 1M trees? Nope. Auckland light rail? Nope. Eradicate child poverty? Nope Nope Nope. That's a whole lot of futility
I point you to the NZ politics thread for a partial list of completed work I compiled.
Are you a government spokes person? It’s like you’ve been sent here as a propaganda minister. I suppose it brings some balance.
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@billy-tell said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I notice this morning there are a couple of articles on the herald about how NZ reputation taking a hammering MIQ etc etc.
Articles are premium so I can't read them, but I do wonder if the editor has realised that NZ media is arguably the biggest problem due to their complete and utter inability to seriously question the government.
I strongly doubt that, but I did see this pop up in my feed, which makes me wonder if the media has realized that now there is some value in questioning the government (either that of the FB algorithm is working perfectly):
Bloody hell. I read that article and was staggered no-one had thought this sort of stuff thru.
Sure, it's tricky for any government to deal with the pandemic and loads of mistakes are going to be made at the start like pensions for people trapped overseas - but you get on and fix them. This is incompetence on a grand scale and that it's allowed to continue shows a lack of political leadership bordering on callousness.
Why are you so surprised? Without the distractions of covid19 and the Christchurch mosque attack, what have they done? Kiwibuild? Nope. 1M trees? Nope. Auckland light rail? Nope. Eradicate child poverty? Nope Nope Nope. That's a whole lot of futility
I point you to the NZ politics thread for a partial list of completed work I compiled.
Are you a government spokes person? It’s like you’ve been sent here as a propaganda minister. I suppose it brings some balance.
I've found his posts useful and informative. It's important to understand others point of view, and what they are trying to do. Doesn't mean I like the content, but it certainly helps me land on my opinions.
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The govt has announced it will close all roads to travel. “Although we understand it will be tough for some people not seeing friends or family, it will save lives as road accidents will be confined to history”
It’s expected the roads will re-open in stages: first Auckland to Hamilton, then Auckland to the rest of NZ, then the North Island and finally those suckers from the South Island. Oh and then Stewart Island, lest we forget.