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    • Canes4life
      Canes4life last edited by Canes4life

      So teams will be picked based on the first province they played for. Stupid decision IMO. This means the likes of Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock will all play for the South, whereas Rettalick, Damian McKenzie, Leinert Brown etc will play for the North.

      Foster reveals North v South eligibility

      Foster reveals North v South eligibility

      All Blacks Head Coach Ian Foster has confirmed the eligibility criteria for the North v South game scheduled for August 29.

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      • Bovidae
        Bovidae last edited by Duluth

        [mod edit -merged from another thread]

        He also mentions eligibility for the North-South game - the first province you played for.

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        • Higgins
          Higgins @Canes4life last edited by

          @Canes4life Basically the same criteria they use for State of Origin then.

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          • Nepia
            Nepia @Bovidae last edited by

            @Bovidae said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:

            He also mentions eligibility for the North-South game - the first province you played for.

            At senior level or at junior level?

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            • Kiwiwomble
              Kiwiwomble last edited by

              silly criteria to be a real island of origin kind of deal

              but probably the best was to even the odds because canterbury and otago draw some talent for rugby and university retrospectively, evens out the much larger population base of the north

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @Nepia last edited by

                @Nepia

                โ€œWe think the best legacy thing for us to do is to pick players on the first province they played for because the choice they made when they played first class rugby for that province was probably the start of their move into the professional game. So we think thatโ€™s the best criteria,โ€ Foster said.
                

                I suppose that means after leaving school.

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                • Canes4life
                  Canes4life last edited by

                  Sam Whitelock made a good point in an interview the other day. He said he was excited to play for the North because it allowed him to play with guys he rarely had a chance to play with. This criteria will stop that happening which is a shame.

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                  • Bovidae
                    Bovidae @Canes4life last edited by

                    @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                    Sam Whitelock made a good point in an interview the other day. He said he was excited to play for the North because it allowed him to play with guys he rarely had a chance to play with. This criteria will stop that happening which is a shame.

                    That's why I thought your high school would be the best criteria as it mixes up the teams more. I'll have a word to Foster. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                    • Machpants
                      Machpants last edited by

                      Yeah stupid but trying to balance the Islands I guess

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                      • Yeetyaah
                        Yeetyaah last edited by

                        High School or current province would've better. First province sucks. Scott and Jordie Barrett like mentioned above, Brad Weber who played few games for Otago then moved. Shit criteria really.

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                        • Kiwiwomble
                          Kiwiwomble @Yeetyaah last edited by

                          @Yeetyaah said in North vs South:

                          High School or current province would've better. First province sucks. Scott and Jordie Barrett like mentioned above, Brad Weber who played few games for Otago then moved. Shit criteria really.

                          Weber still does the Dunedin RFC Fin when he scores, Dunners is still important to him, i think he'll be ok ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          • Nepia
                            Nepia @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                            @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                            @Yeetyaah said in North vs South:

                            High School or current province would've better. First province sucks. Scott and Jordie Barrett like mentioned above, Brad Weber who played few games for Otago then moved. Shit criteria really.

                            Weber still does the Dunedin RFC Fin when he scores, Dunners is still important to him, i think he'll be ok ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            As long as he gets to wear a black and white t shirt under his whatever coloured South Island jersey he'll be fine.

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                            • Yeetyaah
                              Yeetyaah @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                              @Kiwiwomble only coz he was a gross Castle Street breather

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                              • Tim
                                Tim last edited by

                                So North will have Smith at halfback, with Hall or Nock on the bench?

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                                • Stargazer
                                  Stargazer @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                  @Kiwiwomble Only the club, not the province though ๐Ÿคจ

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                                  • Nepia
                                    Nepia @Tim last edited by

                                    @Tim said in North vs South:

                                    So North will have Smith at halfback, with Hall or Nock on the bench?

                                    You think that either of those two have a chance of leap frogging TJ?

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                                    • Tim
                                      Tim @Nepia last edited by Tim

                                      @Nepia that's the joke emoticon

                                      Both are in better form than Perenara though.

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                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                        Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by

                                        @Stargazer said in North vs South:

                                        @Kiwiwomble Only the club, not the province though ๐Ÿคจ

                                        of course...Dunedin's not a province, he was a big deal in club rugby for a few years, robbed he didn't get more games for otago, loved seeing him tear it up for the sharks though

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                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                          Kiwiwomble @Nepia last edited by

                                          @Nepia said in North vs South:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                                          @Yeetyaah said in North vs South:

                                          High School or current province would've better. First province sucks. Scott and Jordie Barrett like mentioned above, Brad Weber who played few games for Otago then moved. Shit criteria really.

                                          Weber still does the Dunedin RFC Fin when he scores, Dunners is still important to him, i think he'll be ok ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          As long as he gets to wear a black and white t shirt under his whatever coloured South Island jersey he'll be fine.

                                          speaking from experience, a lot of the best Otago rugby players come from Hawke's Bay

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                                          • Canes4life
                                            Canes4life @Tim last edited by

                                            @Tim you are kidding right?

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                                            • Tim
                                              Tim @Canes4life last edited by

                                              @Canes4life Read the thread.

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                                              • Stargazer
                                                Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                Hookers:

                                                North: Coles, Aumua, Parsons, Dixon
                                                South: Taylor, Coltman, ... Makalio (although his first province was - according to Wikipedia - Wairarapa-Bush, does Heartland count?)

                                                If it had been based on school, it would have been:

                                                North: Taylor, Coles, Coltman, Aumua, Parsons ... Makalio
                                                South: Dixon ... Ricky Jackson/Brodie McAlister?

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                                                • Bovidae
                                                  Bovidae last edited by

                                                  Laulala and Lomax are eligible for the SI now.

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                                                  • Canes4life
                                                    Canes4life last edited by Canes4life

                                                    This criteria kind of diminishes the point of a North vs South game. The whole tribal factor is what these sorts of games are built around. I feel they've missed the mark and I think the care factor will be alot lower than it could have been.

                                                    IMO they should let the players decide who they play for, but once they pull on a jersey they can't switch down the track.

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                                                    • KiwiMurph
                                                      KiwiMurph @Canes4life last edited by

                                                      @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                      This criteria kind of diminishes the point of a North vs South game. The whole tribal factor is what these sorts of games are built around. I feel they've missed the mark and I think the care factor will be alot lower than it could have been.

                                                      IMO they should let the players decide who they play for, but once they pull on a jersey they can't switch down the track.

                                                      They should have just done Probables vs Possibles.

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                                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                                        Kiwiwomble @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                        @KiwiMurph said in North vs South:

                                                        @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                        This criteria kind of diminishes the point of a North vs South game. The whole tribal factor is what these sorts of games are built around. I feel they've missed the mark and I think the care factor will be alot lower than it could have been.

                                                        IMO they should let the players decide who they play for, but once they pull on a jersey they can't switch down the track.

                                                        They should have just done Probables vs Possibles.

                                                        i saw an idea going around, two coaches named and they just get to pick their own squads, taking turns, stream it and make it a bit of an event of it

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                                                        • Canes4life
                                                          Canes4life last edited by

                                                          POSSIBLE NORTH TEAM:

                                                          1. Karl Tu'unukuafe
                                                          2. Dane Coles
                                                          3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                                          4. Patrick Tuipolotu
                                                          5. Brodie Rettalick (if he's available)
                                                          6. Ardie Savea
                                                          7. Sam Cane
                                                          8. Hoskins Sotutu
                                                          9. Aaron Smith
                                                          10. Beauden Barrett
                                                          11. Reiko Ioane
                                                          12. Ngani Laumape
                                                          13. Anton Leinert Brown
                                                          14. Sevu Reece
                                                          15. Damian McKenzie
                                                          16. Asafo Aumua
                                                          17. Aiden Ross / Xavier Numia (anyone better)?
                                                          18. Angus Ta'avao
                                                          19. Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                                          20. Gareth Evans/Akira Ioane
                                                          21. TJ Perenara
                                                          22. Aaron Cruden
                                                          23. Vince Aso
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                                                          • Kiwiwomble
                                                            Kiwiwomble @Canes4life last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                            @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                            POSSIBLE NORTH TEAM:

                                                            1. Karl Tu'unukuafe
                                                            2. Dane Coles
                                                            3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                                            4. Patrick Tuipolotu
                                                            5. Brodie Rettalick (if he's available)
                                                            6. Ardie Savea
                                                            7. Sam Cane
                                                            8. Hoskins Sotutu
                                                            9. Aaron Smith
                                                            10. Beauden Barrett
                                                            11. Reiko Ioane
                                                            12. Ngani Laumape
                                                            13. Anton Leinert Brown
                                                            14. Sevu Reece
                                                            15. Damian McKenzie
                                                            16. Asafo Aumua
                                                            17. Aiden Ross / Xavier Numia (anyone better)?
                                                            18. Angus Ta'avao
                                                            19. Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                                            20. Gareth Evans/Akira Ioane
                                                            21. TJ Perenara
                                                            22. Aaron Cruden
                                                            23. Vince Aso

                                                            bugger thats a good team...Evans debuted for otago though, another Dunedin RFC boy

                                                            everyone know the story of him playing two games for the Highlanders in one day? big fan

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                                                            • Canes4life
                                                              Canes4life last edited by

                                                              POSSIBLE SOUTH TEAM:

                                                              1. Joe Moody
                                                              2. Codie Taylor
                                                              3. Tyrel Lomax
                                                              4. Scott Barrett
                                                              5. Sam Whitelock
                                                              6. Cullen Grace
                                                              7. James Lentjies
                                                              8. Gareth Evans
                                                              9. Brad Webber
                                                              10. Richie Mo'unga
                                                              11. George Bridge
                                                              12. Jordie Barrett
                                                              13. Jack Goodhue
                                                              14. Will Jordan
                                                              15. David Havili
                                                              16. Liam Coltman
                                                              17. Oli Jager
                                                              18. Nepo Laulaula
                                                              19. Luke Romano
                                                              20. Billy Harmon
                                                              21. Mitchell Drummond
                                                              22. Mitchell Hunt
                                                              23. Braydon Ennor
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                                                              • Canes4life
                                                                Canes4life @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                                POSSIBLE NORTH TEAM:

                                                                1. Karl Tu'unukuafe
                                                                2. Dane Coles
                                                                3. Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                                                4. Patrick Tuipolotu
                                                                5. Brodie Rettalick (if he's available)
                                                                6. Ardie Savea
                                                                7. Sam Cane
                                                                8. Hoskins Sotutu
                                                                9. Aaron Smith
                                                                10. Beauden Barrett
                                                                11. Reiko Ioane
                                                                12. Ngani Laumape
                                                                13. Anton Leinert Brown
                                                                14. Sevu Reece
                                                                15. Damian McKenzie
                                                                16. Asafo Aumua
                                                                17. Aiden Ross / Xavier Numia (anyone better)?
                                                                18. Angus Ta'avao
                                                                19. Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                                                20. Gareth Evans/Akira Ioane
                                                                21. TJ Perenara
                                                                22. Aaron Cruden
                                                                23. Vince Aso
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                                                                • Kiwiwomble
                                                                  Kiwiwomble @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                  @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                                  POSSIBLE SOUTH TEAM:

                                                                  1. Joe Moody
                                                                  2. Codie Taylor
                                                                  3. Tyrel Lomax
                                                                  4. Scott Barrett
                                                                  5. Sam Whitelock
                                                                  6. Cullen Grace
                                                                  7. James Lentjies
                                                                  8. Gareth Evans
                                                                  9. Brad Webber
                                                                  10. Richie Mo'unga
                                                                  11. George Bridge
                                                                  12. Jordie Barrett
                                                                  13. Jack Goodhue
                                                                  14. Will Jordan
                                                                  15. David Havili
                                                                  16. Liam Coltman
                                                                  17. Oli Jager
                                                                  18. Nepo Laulaula
                                                                  19. Luke Romano
                                                                  20. Billy Harmon
                                                                  21. Mitchell Drummond
                                                                  22. Mitchell Hunt
                                                                  23. Braydon Ennor

                                                                  James Lentjies has a season ending broken ankle...horrific, i'd say Dillon Hunt instead

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                                                                  • Duluth
                                                                    Duluth @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                    @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                                    1. Mitchell Hunt

                                                                    First province was Auckland

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                                                                    • Machpants
                                                                      Machpants @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                      @Stargazer said in North vs South:

                                                                      South: Taylor, Coltman, ... Makalio (although his first province was - according to Wikipedia - Wairarapa-Bush, does Heartland count?)

                                                                      Sorry, do you know where the 'rapa is? It ain't in the South Island!

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                                                                      • Canes4life
                                                                        Canes4life @Duluth last edited by

                                                                        @Duluth Brett Cameron?

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                                                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                                                          Kiwiwomble @Machpants last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                                          @Machpants said in North vs South:

                                                                          @Stargazer said in North vs South:

                                                                          South: Taylor, Coltman, ... Makalio (although his first province was - according to Wikipedia - Wairarapa-Bush, does Heartland count?)

                                                                          Sorry, do you know where the 'rapa is? It ain't in the South Island!

                                                                          that was his point...first top div team was in the south but if Heartland is included then the 'rapa is his first team

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                                                                          • Duluth
                                                                            Duluth @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                            @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                                            Brett Cameron?

                                                                            Josh Ioane

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                                                                            • Tim
                                                                              Tim last edited by

                                                                              For North:

                                                                              Hodgman on the bench at loosehead.

                                                                              Rettalick isn't available. Goodhue to start. GCT is a bench option. Any other lock options? Not much depth.

                                                                              ALB/Ioane is probably better than Laumape/ALB.

                                                                              Robinson to start at six, Savea on the bench.

                                                                              Black on the bench.

                                                                              Must be a better option than Aso.

                                                                              For South: Oli Jaeger is a tighthead not a loosehead.

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                                                                              • Canes4life
                                                                                Canes4life @Tim last edited by

                                                                                @Tim Savea on the bench? Is this another joke of yours?

                                                                                Didn't Hodgman play for Canterbury first aswell?

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                                                                                • Tim
                                                                                  Tim @Canes4life last edited by

                                                                                  @Canes4life said in North vs South:

                                                                                  Didn't Hodgman play for Canterbury first aswell?

                                                                                  Yeah, Hodgman did. He replaces Jaeger.

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                                                                                    Bones last edited by

                                                                                    No love for the forgotten man, MMT.

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