Steamers 2020
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I see there is a Northland and Hawkes tread so thought I would start one for BOP.
I'm just curious if anyone knows of any comings and goings of players for the coming season. We obviously know of TTT and possibly Otere Black.
I only know of three from last years team who definitely won't be back. There is a group of NZ sevens players playing locally for their clubs and a few players returning from overseas so I assume some will be included in the NPC team.
So, anyone know of new signings ?
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@Snollygoster Let's see. The Steamers lose
- Alex Ainley to retirement;
- not sure whether Chris Eves is still playing;
- Richard Judd is probably still contracted to his Japanese club, so may not be available?
- Abraham Papali'i going overseas;
- Liam Polwart retired?
- Joe Ravouvou has left for France.
- Nathan Vella is struggling with his health (concussion) at the Highlanders. What's he going to do?
BOP definitely having the benefit of all those 7s players living in the province; not all of them will return to their home province for NPC.
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Cheers for that Stargazer. You're a wealth of information.
You are correct Ainsley, Polwart and Wardlaw are definitely gone.
The contract situation and NPC availability situation with some players is a tad confusing. I see Keepa Mewett is playing locally and Tom Franklin has appeared on a recent BOPRU promotion. Both, I understood were contracted in Japan so maybe their contracts are finished or possibly they have dispensation to play back here. Someone here will know.
Vella's concussion issues don't look good and I'm not sure where Nathan Harris is ,health wise , these days.
You're also right about about the Sevens players although I think most who are playing locally are contracted to BOP. Reagan Ware I think was with Taranaki.
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Cant wait for the season ahead
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Tom mchugh has taken time out from rugby
Isaiah going to ireland
Tyler didn't play for us last year due to wc but he's off overseas -
Eves, McHugh, Vella, Polwart, Ainley, Wardlaw, White, Papali'i, Ravouvou all likely or definitely out. Matenga, Mua, Robertson, Lalomilo players don't know about but haven't seen in club rugby. Gonna presume/hope all our Super players are returning but I haven't been checking other unions signings.
Props- Geldenhuys, Ross, Mafileo, Thwaites. Jordan Lay is back, Benot Kumeroa Toni Toia others in club I can think of.
Hookers-Eklund Harris, Vella? Nic Souchon signed from Canterbury.
Locks- Carroll, van den Hoven. Club- Mewett, Leaupepe, Morrice all back playing & Maloney-Fiaola probably the other one close.
Flankers- Blake, Johnston, Karpik. Club- Dickson is playing for Rangiuru, Herbert from 20s, Te Whetu Rangi impressive for TGA but they will likely wait another year, Budd finally given an opportunity? Don't know much here.
Halfback- Carter, TTT in. Mcgarvey-Black vs Campbell for a contract maybe?
10- Hollinshead, Trask. Hopefully Black. Biddle played 10 last few weeks?
Centres- Skipwith Garland, Tiatia. Thompson rumours? Don't know much here aswell & may not sign anymore like last year. Club-Bardoul, Tuhakaraina, Filemone.
Wings- Fuatai, Webber, Collier. Club- Ware most likely but Curry and Warbrick also playing from 7s for Mount, Barnett.
Fullback- Forbes, Narawa. Can't see any other signings here, good depth with Tiatia/Trask options. -
@trooa Aidan Ross?
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@Tim Sheesh yupp, forgot the captain.
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@trooa What's Kane Leaupepe's local club?
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@Stargazer Te Puke
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jemaih mua been playing for the hautapu invitational xv
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@ploughboy Yeah looking for his older brother Ajay who was in the squad last year.
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@trooa Great job Trooa. I thought I would give a few other possibilities :-
Lock . I'm pretty sure Tom Franklin will be included somewhere as he has been doing some promotional stuff on the social media.
Flankers. Kapeli was involved a while back but haven't heard much from him lately apart from being involved with the Highlanders.
Half back. Another possibility is this guy who is playing club rugby locally..
Carlos Price
Young halfback Carlos Price was named in the 2016 New Zealand schoolboys side, after leaving Tauranga Boys' College to St Kents on a rugby scholarship. The talented teenager - also a goalkicker who can play first five-eighth - has signed for the 2017 a…
Centres. This guy is playing local club rugby.
https://www.mako.nz/tasman-makos/rupena-parkinsonThere are so many unknowns this year with many of the overseas competitions being cancelled and the sevens players involvement. Overall , if most of the names mentioned are available, it will be a pretty capable team. It should be exciting.
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Le'aupepe has re-signed
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Just didn't play last year as was at rwc with samoa
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@Cpt-Kumera Yupp same as Kapeli with Tonga so likely both are back.
Thanks for the Price and Parkinson suggestions @Snollygoster , I haven't watched the Mount at all as their results haven't been great. Any idea on their performances compared to the other possibilities in their position?
With Franklin added, definitely strong crop of locks. Mewett was captain couple of years ago so likely a case of whether he wants the contract or not. Morrice the unlucky one again unless they view Carroll as a 6 this year. -
PS looking forward to the Volcanix this year. They're star studded with the addition of Williams, Willison, Pouri-Lane, Paul (& her sister), Blyde, Robins-Reti and Brazier. Bit gutted FPC players have been taken out of club rugby now, the last match between Rangataua and Rangiuru was top notch and the final would have been epic.
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@trooa @trooa I also haven't watched any of the Mount's games (and only one other club game) so have no idea who is playing well or not. If all the rumored signings are true, then our backline will be pretty exciting with competition for places in pretty much all positions. Ainsley and Wardlaw will be big boots to fill in the locking department however but there are quite a few options. Three specialist locks are usually selected with one or two who can play lock/no.6/no.8. Franklin, Leapepe, Van den Hoven, Morris, Kapeli, Matenga, Caroll and Mewett have all be contracted with The Bay before.
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Anyone got a lazy $10 to invest ? BOP is already rated as the team most likely to be relegated !!
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/13748/rugby-union%2Fmitre-10-cup%2Fmitre-10-cup/outrights
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I talked to Rob Thompson today as he's my coach for school rugby and he's going to Japan and not playing for Bay of Plenty. Confirmed
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BOP certainly benefit from having the NZ sevens base at the Mount, for both the male and female teams.
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Confirmed:
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Black > Trask
Trask to play at fullback? Not ideal for the Chiefs if Trask is meant to be their first choice 10 in 2021
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@Duluth Narawa plays fullback for BOP often?
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McMillan needs to have his Chiefs hat on this M10 Cup season.
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- TTT 10. Black 11. Tiatia 12 Hollinshead 13.? 14. Narawa 15. Trask 😳
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@Tim In 2019, they used these players as follows:
Dan Hollinshead: 10 (6x), 12 (2x)
Kaleb Trask: 10 (5x), 22 (1x)
Jason Robertson: 10 (1x), 15 (1x), 22 (4x), 23 (1x)Emoni Narawa: 14 (9x), 15 (2x), 23 (1x)
Chase Tiatia: 15 (6x), 12 (6x)
Cole Forbes: 15 (1x)
Pryor Collier: 15 (2x), 23 (2x)So, to answer your question, Narawa started at fullback twice (the last two games). Trask was injured at the beginning and at the end of the season.
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Comments from Black:
The 25-year-old, who enjoyed a stellar 2020 Super Rugby season, has played more than 50 games for the Turbos since 2014, but said he’s trading provinces after becoming a first-time dad and wanting to be closer to family, and to have a connection to his home region, having grown up in the Eastern Bay of Plenty town of Ruatoki. “We have a home here in Rotorua now and making sure my family could come and watch me play was a big factor,” Black said. -
@Stargazer Thanks!
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Cant wait to see the blue and gold hoops run out in a months time. Love mitre 10 cup or npc over super rugby
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I see the North Harbour preseason game has been canned with only the Whakatane game against Counties still scheduled.
You have to wonder how the competition will pan out with the continued virus out breaks and resulting lockdowns. Theres a distinct possibility some teams won't be able to travel and some games won't be able to go ahead. Fingers crossed this doesn't happen.
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Thanks for those @Stargazer, really informative. So many different options they can use with their current backline. Black Narawa Tiatia are automatically picked then everybody else at similar levels with different skillsets so will become whats the best fit for the team. Having that preseason game cancelled & maybe the other since we're playing Counties isn't beneficial when you want to be trying out lots of different combinations. Also gutted with North vs South announcement that Eklund is back in Auckland but not surprised either.
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@trooa said in Steamers 2020:
Also gutted with North vs South announcement that Eklund is back in Auckland but not surprised either.
The player's provinces listed in the NI and SI squads are their first province for selection eligibility, not necessarily their current province.
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@trooa Eklund is playing for BOP this year. He confirmed it when interviewed by Sky TV.
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The full squad will be named on September 6th.
