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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by Stargazer
    #343

    @Canes4life

    I'd pick:

    1 Armstrong
    2 Coles
    3 Lomax
    4 Fifita/Le'aupepe, or
    5 Scrafton/Le'aupepe
    6 Flanders/A Savea
    7 Kirifi
    8 A Savea/Flanders
    9 Campbell
    10 Hickey
    11 Rayasi
    12 Laumape
    13 Umaga-Jensen
    14 Visinia
    15 Barrett
    16 Aumua
    17 Rakete-Stones
    18 Fidow
    19 Walker-Leawere
    20 Evans
    21 Taumateine
    22 Garden-Bachop
    23 Toala/Aso/Goosen

    If Le'aupepe is available (I haven't seen any injury update about him), that might change more than the locking spots. Either IWL will miss out completely, or they shift Fifita to the 20 jersey and Flanders will miss out completely (because the coaches will pick Prinsep to start). I'd expect Le'aupepe to start with Scrafton.

    My picks for 6, 7 and 8 are only to keep Kirifi in the starting line-up, but in reality I still think Ardie is more a 7 than an 8, which would mean 6 (yuck) Prinsep, 7 A Savea, 8 Flanders and 20 Kirifi, and Evans missing out. (I'd prefer Evans at 6, but we know that won't happen).

    There obvioulsy is no rugby journo in Wellington anymore, so the media coverage of the Canes' preseason has been terrible.

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    #344

    Why the love for Campbell over Taumateine? I think the latter is a good halfback but hasn't had many opportunities yet.

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    @Bovidae I don't really care. Campbell is inexperienced, but probably has more talent. I find Taumateine pretty average, even in Mitre 10 Cup.

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    #346

    Hickey over Garden-Bachop? Surely not.

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    @KiwiMurph Yeah, I wasn't sure. They're both terrible. I thought maybe his goal kicking might be better.

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    @KiwiMurph said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    Hickey over Garden-Bachop? Surely not.

    I am no JGB fan. But he upped his game as last season went along. He'll never have a ceiling any higher than a Jimmy Gopperth type (he's not there yet!!) but he will probably be the place holder until we can unearth another

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    replied to canefan on last edited by Canes4life
    #349

    @canefan agree, JGB was very solid last year. Defs have him starting over Hickey.

    @Stargazer I love your attempt to get as many HB players in there as possible but I can't see Visinia starting at 14 over Goosen. Goosen stood up massively with that performance against the Crusaders last year. Also, I think they will want a bit of consistency with selection from the back end of last year, so I doubt we will see too many new faces until injuries strike.

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    #350

    @Bovidae I have Campbell ahead of Taumateine just because he performed better in the Mitre 10 Cup.

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    @Canes4life It's not an attempt to get as many HB players in the squad. I think Visinia offers more than Goosen.

    But don't worry, knowing the Canes coaches' previous selections, they will make sure they won't exceed their HB quota. We'll be lucky to have two players in the match day 23. 😉

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    #352

    @Stargazer he certainly didn’t offer more when playing for the Blues. Can’t see it happening tbh, Goosen deserves first crack at 14 with the way he finished the season last year.

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    #353

    The last hurrah: Dane Coles eyes Super Rugby glory in Canes swansong

    Dane Coles' is off contract at the conclusion of 2021 and the All Blacks hooker is determined to make his last year with the Hurricanes a winning one.

    "Obviously my last year coming up with the Canes. I haven't completely ruled out staying on, but I've just got to appreciate it this year mate," Coles said on his future.

    (...)

    Coles had planned on retiring from professional rugby at the end of 2021 and the Covid-19 disrupted 2020 season left Coles reflecting on that move. If he does pull the pin he will step away from the game completely, with no desire to get into media, punditry or coaching.

    He may become a firefighter and plans to play one last season for his beloved Paraparaumu Rugby Club (where he first played and grew up), before hanging up the boots for good.

    This year though he has things to achieve with the Hurricanes and the All Blacks.

    "I still love playing for New Zealand and still passionate about it. I'm still driven to get there and it all starts by performing for the Hurricanes."

    And while retirement seems more likely, would the 2023 tournament be a bridge too far?

    "Haha, never say never mate. Especially with Roger (Tuivasa-Sheck) coming over to rugby, it would be awesome to play with him. I'm not ruling out anything, I'm likely to keep going as long as I can until the coaches say that's enough, haha."

    (...)

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    #354

    Lot of love for Kirifi from you Canes fans.

    I’d go:
    6. Flanders
    7. Ardie
    8. Evans

    That’s your best trio. No bias whatsoever as I’m a chiefs fan. 😉

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    #355

    @Nepia hard to argue if Evans can get back to his best form. I guess the Canes have the luxury of rotating a number of those guys and still having a very solid back row unit. We all know the coaches will select Prinsep though which is painful.

    I’d just really love to see Flanders get a good trot at 8.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #356

    @Stargazer been one of the Canes greatest players you would have to say. Never forget him playing through the pain in the 2016 final. Hopefully we have a great season and send him off in style.

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    #357

    @Canes4life

    Agree with both your starting team. And unfortunately your coaches team too.

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    #358

    @canefan said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    @KiwiMurph said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    Hickey over Garden-Bachop? Surely not.

    I am no JGB fan. But he upped his game as last season went along. He'll never have a ceiling any higher than a Jimmy Gopperth type (he's not there yet!!) but he will probably be the place holder until we can unearth another

    Gopperth was useless at super rugby level. was pleased to finally see him go. JGB isn't a world beater but at least he does the basics well. Including defending. He doesn't wave them through. And his line clearing is good as well (unlike Gopperth). And he has a VG partnership with Barrett.

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    @Winger Gopperth was awesome in the UK, played a lot of time at 12, really matured. Sad we didn't get to see that for the Canes

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    #361

    Anyone else going to the game of 3 halves on Saturday?

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