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        KiwiMurph @Dolamite last edited by

        @dolamite Wheeler is an embarrassment - a ticking time bomb.

        What kind of person at Sky NZ thinks "yeah let's keep giving this meathead air time"

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          African Monkey @KiwiMurph last edited by

          @kiwimurph He's really funny apparently.....

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            sparky @Dolamite last edited by sparky

            @dolamite What a twat. That's racism from Joe Wheeler. He adds nothing but cringe.

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              Bones @sparky last edited by

              @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

              @dolamite What a twat. That's racism from Joe Wheeler. He adds nothing but cringe.

              Oh fuck off. You really get that offended when @nta mocks your kiwi accent? It's not fucken racism, don't be ridiculous.

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                sparky @Bones last edited by sparky

                @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                @dolamite What a twat. That's racism from Joe Wheeler. He adds nothing but cringe.

                Oh fuck off. You really get that offended when @nta mocks your kiwi accent? It's not fucken racism, don't be ridiculous.

                I don't, but perhaps because there isn't a wave of anti-Kiwi violence going on anywhere at the moment.

                Utterly naive (being charitable) from Josef Wheeler and IMHO racist.

                Perhaps he was trying to be funny with his "joke" from the 1970s.

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                  Siam @sparky last edited by

                  @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                  @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                  @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                  @dolamite What a twat. That's racism from Joe Wheeler. He adds nothing but cringe.

                  Oh fuck off. You really get that offended when @nta mocks your kiwi accent? It's not fucken racism, don't be ridiculous.

                  I don't, but perhaps because there isn't a wave of anti-Kiwi violence going on anywhere at the moment.

                  Utterly naive (being charitable) from Josef Wheeler and IMHO racist.

                  Oh stop it. Wheeler and the Japanese Highlanders have a positive relationship- that is obvious and was obvious during Fumiaka's time in Dunedin. They are all friends

                  Everyone here mocks their wife's voice or intonation. And our wives mock ours. All of us in mixed cultural relationships constantly take the piss out our loved one's speech - both ways.

                  Wheeler is guilty of no racial harm, and this is NOT an example of Racism. It's an example of people hoping others will like them.

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                    sparky @Siam last edited by sparky

                    @siam Seen this? Personally I am glad that he owned his mistake and is committed to learn from it.

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                      sparky last edited by sparky

                      I wonder if Joe's Japanese is as good?

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                      • Siam
                        Siam @sparky last edited by Siam

                        @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                        @siam Seen this? Personally I am glad that he owned his mistake and is committed to learn from it.

                        I'm pleased you're glad mate. I think the relationship between Joe and Himeno was in jeopardy and needed a racial reset. I'm pleased to see his commitment to repairing their relationship which was unexpectedly thrust into turmoil mid evening good Friday in Christchurch. I'm also proud to be conversing with a voice that made the world less racist.

                        Thank you for your service good man.

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                          Bones @sparky last edited by Bones

                          @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                          @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                          @sparky said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                          @dolamite What a twat. That's racism from Joe Wheeler. He adds nothing but cringe.

                          Oh fuck off. You really get that offended when @nta mocks your kiwi accent? It's not fucken racism, don't be ridiculous.

                          I don't, but perhaps because there isn't a wave of anti-Kiwi violence going on anywhere at the moment.

                          Utterly naive (being charitable) from Josef Wheeler and IMHO racist.

                          Perhaps he was trying to be funny with his "joke" from the 1970s.

                          There's a wave of anti-Japanese accent violence going on somewhere? Werr I nevel.

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                            Dolamite last edited by

                            Joe Wheeler is such a dumb fuck he got the stereotype completely wrong anyway. Japanese are usually stereotyped for pronouncing L as R.. not the opposite as Wheeler was implying e.g that joke..

                            What do Japanese do when they have an erection?

                            Vote.

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                              gt12 @Dolamite last edited by gt12

                              @dolamite said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                              Joe Wheeler is such a dumb fuck he got the stereotype completely wrong anyway. Japanese are usually stereotyped for pronouncing L as R.. not the opposite as Wheeler was implying e.g that joke..

                              What do Japanese do when they have an erection?

                              Vote.

                              The Japanese ra ri ru re ro phonemic sound is actually a different sound to ra re ri ro ru sound (English) or la le li lo lu sound (English) as the Japanese ra ri ru re ro combines aspects from both.

                              Edit: In other words, the joke works both ways, whether it is in good taste or bad.

                              Edit edit: For me, I thought that was really unclassy (I know that isn't a word).

                              English is used by far more people as an additional language than a first language, which is fucking lucky for kiwis, and I'm not sure why anyone would think it is a good idea to make fun of someone who is speaking in their second or third language - whilst on broadcast television representing NZ rugby.

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                                Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                Bit close to home this issue, daughter, half-Japanese, in a NZ high school after being raised mostly in Japan. Anyway, if she speaks, some people seem to think it is funny to laugh at her accent and mimic her. No problem for her, she understands she is going to meet some people she needs to avoid (being identified as Asian in NZ is an instant asshole detector...).
                                Anyway, the lack of self-reflection on how the Kiwi accent sounds is quite remarkable.

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                                  Old Samurai Jack @gt12 last edited by

                                  @gt12 Was going to say something similar. Not as technical but similar🤤

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                                    gt12 @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                    @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                    Bit close to home this issue, daughter, half-Japanese, in a NZ high school after being raised mostly in Japan. Anyway, if she speaks, some people seem to think it is funny to laugh at her accent and mimic her. No problem for her, she understands she is going to meet some people she needs to avoid (being identified as Asian in NZ is an instant asshole detector...).
                                    Anyway, the lack of self-reflection on how the Kiwi accent sounds is quite remarkable.

                                    My little boy will be the same so this is a bit close to home for me. I understand the joke as one of my Japanese friends used to like making these jokes when we were out on the piss, but on International TV I thought that was really classless, but I don't find that guy funny at any other time anyway I guess (Fumi was funny, but I think everyone thought that it was Wheeler who was funny).

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                                      Bones @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                      @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                      Anyway, the lack of self-reflection on how the Kiwi accent sounds is quite remarkable.

                                      Huh? I don't follow. Was Wheeler only allowed to make a shit joke if he immediately follows it up with self reflection? That's a bit weird.

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                                        Old Samurai Jack @gt12 last edited by

                                        @gt12 I don't mind Wheeler. As far from a racist as you'll ever get I reckon but jeez, keep that joke to take the piss out of your close Japanese friend(s) in the right context. Don't say it on TV and encourage arsewipes to do the same!

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                                          Old Samurai Jack @Bones last edited by

                                          @bones Point was that everyone has an accent and it only sounds weird to people who aren't used to it. On a sociolinguistic level, people who take the piss out of someone's accent are usually unaware of their own.

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                                            nostrildamus @Bones last edited by

                                            @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                            @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                            Anyway, the lack of self-reflection on how the Kiwi accent sounds is quite remarkable.

                                            Huh? I don't follow. Was Wheeler only allowed to make a shit joke if he immediately follows it up with self reflection? That's a bit weird.

                                            Mr Bones, you make it sound like you never self reflect after you make a shit joke? Say it ain't so!

                                            For the sake of transparency, I don't go in for self-reflection in case I find out I am actually a vampire.

                                            Regards Wheeler, it is just not on, kono imo! (That does mean potato head, right?) But at least he had the guts to apologize. And Himeno sounds a good bloke.

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                                              Bones @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                              @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                              @bones Point was that everyone has an accent and it only sounds weird to people who aren't used to it.

                                              I'm pretty surprised that's a point you feel needs to be made. It may be hard to believe (case in point) but we're actually all adults here. Do you really think there's large swathes of people that don't know that?

                                              On a sociolinguistic level, people who take the piss out of someone's accent are usually unaware of their own.

                                              Well there you go, that answers my question. If that's legit I'm genuinely astounded. I don't think I would know anyone that doesn't realise they have an accent, that's really bizarre.

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                                                Bones @nostrildamus last edited by

                                                @nostrildamus my range of ugly jokes, shit hair jokes and small penis jokes is beyond the realms of comprehension.

                                                I know, I know, it's probably racist to make jokes like that but at least I self reflect.

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                                                  Old Samurai Jack @Bones last edited by

                                                  @bones Eh? Hold on, I explained the point because you wrote, " I don't follow". Otherwise, I inferred something that was obvious. You want a senseless argument?

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                                                    Bones @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                                    @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                    @bones Eh? Hold on, I explained the point because you wrote, " I don't follow". Otherwise, I inferred something that was obvious. You want a senseless argument?

                                                    I was probably unclear - I mean when/how did you expect Wheeler to self reflect? If he makes a shit joke about the Japanese accent, does he have to immediately follow it with one about his own accent?

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                                                      nostrildamus @Bones last edited by

                                                      @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                      @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                      @bones Point was that everyone has an accent and it only sounds weird to people who aren't used to it.

                                                      I'm pretty surprised that's a point you feel needs to be made. It may be hard to believe (case in point) but we're actually all adults here. Do you really think there's large swathes of people that don't know that?

                                                      On a sociolinguistic level, people who take the piss out of someone's accent are usually unaware of their own.

                                                      Well there you go, that answers my question. If that's legit I'm genuinely astounded. I don't think I would know anyone that doesn't realise they have an accent, that's really bizarre.

                                                      I've met people who don't think they have accents, everybody else does. One did not think Manhattan was an island either (she was American).

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                                                        Old Samurai Jack @Bones last edited by

                                                        @bones Mmm, OK....., please explain Wheeler's joke and why he thought it was funny. The answer to your questions should be in your response.

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                                                          Bones @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                                          @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                          @bones Mmm, OK....., please explain Wheeler's joke and why he thought it was funny. The answer to your questions should be in your response.

                                                          Wait... people who make jokes about people's fat bodies don't realise they have a body?

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                                                            Dan54 @Old Samurai Jack last edited by

                                                            @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                            @bones Mmm, OK....., please explain Wheeler's joke and why he thought it was funny. The answer to your questions should be in your response.

                                                            I missed what Wheeler said, must of been when I left room for minute. And perhaps he needs to apologise, but did anyone have a go at Aussie commentators for say you lot over the dutch etc? Happens a lot, never worried me and like what Wheeler did, just in my opinion show the person struggles to be funny.

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                                                              shark last edited by

                                                              He's just not funny. Wheeler is made out by many to be this hilarious larrikin but he's simply another bad example of the shallow talent pool in our small nation.

                                                              Racist though? Nah. Just a poor attempt at an accent mock, which is as common a joke as anything and pretty harmless in isolation.

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                                                                No Quarter @Old Samurai Jack last edited by No Quarter

                                                                @old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

                                                                @gt12 I don't mind Wheeler. As far from a racist as you'll ever get I reckon but jeez, keep that joke to take the piss out of your close Japanese friend(s) in the right context. Don't say it on TV and encourage arsewipes to do the same!

                                                                That's pretty much the hammer and the nail head. Wheeler comes across as someone that likes to take the piss and is actually mates with a lot of the players. Which makes for bad broadcasting, comms that constantly refer to players by nicknames and crack "in jokes" on air are cringe as as fuck, some of the NZ and Aussie cricket comms are a case in point. Keep that shit between you and your mates, when you're on air at least try to say something insightful (you know, what you got hired for) most people are not interested in your stupid jokes.

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                                                                  MN5 last edited by MN5

                                                                  Crap joke but THANK GOD he apologised publicly. I was ready to get up in arms and demand he did so on behalf of all offended asians everywhere

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                                                                    No Quarter @MN5 last edited by

                                                                    @mn5 said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                    Crap joke but thank god he apologised publicly. I was ready to get up in arms and demand he did so on behalf of all offended asians everywhere

                                                                    You're doing this all wrong. You're meant to now say that his apology didn't go far enough and that he needs to atone for his sins by "listening" and "educating himself", and that if he had any decency at all he'd step aside for a marginalized Japanese person to take his position.

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                                                                      MN5 @No Quarter last edited by

                                                                      @no-quarter said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                      @mn5 said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                      Crap joke but thank god he apologised publicly. I was ready to get up in arms and demand he did so on behalf of all offended asians everywhere

                                                                      You're doing this all wrong. You're meant to now say that his apology didn't go far enough and that he needs to atone for his sins by "listening" and "educating himself", and that if he had any decency at all he'd step aside for a marginalized Japanese person to take his position.

                                                                      One can only hope. Has anyone approached Dame Susan Devoy for comment yet ?

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                                                                        Bones @shark last edited by

                                                                        @shark said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                        Wheeler is made out by many to be this hilarious larrikin

                                                                        To be fair, I'm yet to stumble across anyone that actually likes him or his input.

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                                                                          taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                          Didn't he do lots of dumb shit with Funaki the Japanese 9 that was at the highlanders, skits where Funaki was his pet or something?

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                                                                            booboo @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                                            @taniwharugby said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                            Didn't he do lots of dumb shit with Funaki the Japanese 9 that was at the highlanders, skits where Funaki was his pet or something?

                                                                            Fumiaki Tanaka?

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                                                                              taniwharugby @booboo last edited by

                                                                              @booboo yea him.

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                                                                                Tim last edited by

                                                                                A lot of Japanese expats I've met have been good "lad" types, who are up for a crude laugh. I wouldn't do that to them on national TV though ...

                                                                                Also, Wheeler is one of the stupidest sounding, backwards hicks in NZ, so he's in no position to take the piss out of anyone.

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                                                                                    Bones @Tim last edited by

                                                                                    @tim said in Joe Wheeler:

                                                                                    Also, Wheeler is one of the stupidest sounding, backwards hicks in NZ, so he's in no position to take the piss out of anyone.

                                                                                    Let's scrap the forum

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