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    2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby

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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by

      Apparently, our Under 20s played - and lost to - Manawatū U20, last Saturday. Unfortunately, the HBRU can't be bothered to keep us in the loop about our rep teams, but fortunately there's a write-up on the clubrugby website.

      Manawatu beat Hawke’s Bay 28-21 in an under 20s representative hit-out at Tremain Field, Napier on Saturday.

      On a soggy surface, and with unlimited substitutions, the visitor’s superior lineout drive and excellent starting first-five Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula was the difference in a willing, scrappy contest. Manawatu led 14-0 with two converted tries before the grunt of the Magpies pack saw them rumble over for a try from a lineout drive. Manawatu scored in the left corner when Armstrong-Ravula slashed through and delivered a cut-out pass to space. Bay skipper Cooper Flanders muscled over to reduce the deficit to seven as Manawatu appeared to lose direction. However, their lineout remained a strong suite and when they earned a lineout five metres shy of the hosts line they proved unstoppable. Hawke’s Bay scored a converted try on fulltime, reward for stubborn attack. Their replacement left winger looked especially handy.

      As this column noted last week, Manawatu have a talented group of young players coming through. As well as home grown talent such as their U20s captain and flanker Elijah Crosswell and midfielder Kyle Brown – to name two – players such as Armstrong-Ravula are from outside the region. Armstrong-Ravula is the nephew of Richie Mo’unga and comes to Manawatu and Hurricanes territory out of St Andrew’s College in Christchurch.


      Not surprised to see that Cooper Flanders is the captain of the HB U20 team. Still only 18 years old, but a good leader.

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        From HBRU Facebook:

        Our academy boys are off to Palmerston North tomorrow to take on Wellington Rugby academy at Bill Brown Park! Kickoff is at 11am.

        Unfortunately no spectators are allowed and there will be no live-stream but we will try and update you on scores as much as possible!

        Good luck to all those involved!

        TEAM LIST

        Starters:

        1 Maika Fehoko (MAC)

        2 Dylan Homan (St Johns)

        3 Alo Aiolupotea (HRS)

        4 Matt Monaghan (NOBM)

        5 Tom Allen (HBHS)

        6 Tupou Ma’afu Afungia (MAC)

        7 Tino Savea (Taradale)

        8 Cooper Flanders (Havelock)

        9 Corey Berkett (NBHS)

        10 Hoera Stephenson (Aotea)

        11 Mefi Tupou (MAC)

        12 Meni Manase (MAC)

        13 Jayden Stok (NTOB)

        14 Bethel Malasia (NTOB)

        15 Ezra Malo (Taradale)

        Reserves:

        Pulea Faleiva (NOBM)

        Vikta Tevita/Aone Lolofie (HBHS)

        Brandon Televave (MAC)

        Joel Russell (NBHS)

        Jonty Stewart (NOBM)

        Bryson Pakoti (HBHS)

        Andrew Hayward (HRS)

        Kere Penitito (NOBM)

        Josiah Sakaria (MAC)

        Harry Godfrey (CHB)


        I'm quite happy to see 7-11, 13-14, Hayward, Penitito and, obviously, Godfrey in the squad.
        Of the missing names, I hope particularly Gilgal Malasia and Kaihau Pasikala have not been poached. Also missing Jayden Walker.

        I don't recognise the names of any of the tight five. I'll do some googling when I can find the time.

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        • Number 10
          Number 10 @Stargazer last edited by

          (1) Fehoko and (3) Aiolupotea played for HB Under 19 last year and (2) Homan for HB Under 18 last year.

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            We talked about Monaghan last year. Went to King's and was named in the NZ Schools squad.

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            • Stargazer
              Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

              From the Club Rugby socials:

              Today's scheduled game in neutral Palmerston North between the Wellington and Hawke's Bay U20 sides has been cancelled, owing to some close contacts of another positive case. So the only trip away today for us is to our garden where the capsicums are booming.

              The HBRU didn't post anything about the cancellation. They simply removed the post with the team line-up from their FB feed. I'm glad I copied it before they did that; at least we've got a list of (most of) our academy players now.

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              • Stargazer
                Stargazer last edited by

                Nice to get an update!

                Busy start to the year for HB Academy

                Still no complete list of players, but the article names players that have come to the Bay from other provinces:

                Among the 20 Academy players 14 are local and have attended high school here, as for the other six boys that have moved to the bay from out of the region they will be playing for local clubs in premier comp. Meni Manase and Brandon Televave from Auckland will be playing for MAC, Matt Monaghan has joined the Old Boys Marist squad, Ezra Malo Taradale, Jurrell Maiava playing for Havelock North and Nik Patumaka for Tech.

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                • Higgins
                  Higgins last edited by Higgins

                  @stargazer
                  Ezra Malo - from Wanganui, 2022 Hurricanes Under 20s Squad

                  Meni Manase ex Tangaroa College, 2021 Blues Under 18 Development Camp

                  Matt Monoghan ex Kings College, 2022 Hurricanes Under 20s Squad, Was with Cooper Flanders in the paper only NZ Schools 2021 Team

                  Jurrell Maiava - ex Mt Albert Grammar, looks to be a big hard running/tackling centre

                  Jurrell Maiava on Hudl

                  Brandon Televavae ex Botany Downs College, 2021 Blues Under 18 Development Camp

                  Nik Patumaka ex Gisborne BH, 2021 Hurricanes Under 18 Development Camp

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                  • Nepia
                    Nepia @Higgins last edited by

                    @higgins said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                    @stargazer
                    Ezra Malo - from Wanganui, 2022 Hurricanes Under 20s Squad

                    Meni Manase ex Tangaroa College, 2021 Blues Under 18 Development Camp

                    Matt Monoghan ex Kings College, 2022 Hurricanes Under 20s Squad, Was with Cooper Flanders in the paper only NZ Schools 2021 Team

                    Jurrell Maiava - ex Mt Albert Grammar, looks to be a big hard running/tackling centre

                    Jurrell Maiava on Hudl

                    Brandon Televavae ex Botany Downs College, 2021 Blues Under 18 Development Camp

                    Nik Patumaka ex Gisborne BH, 2021 Hurricanes Under 18 Development Camp

                    I wonder where in the Canes region he's from originally?

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                    • Higgins
                      Higgins @Nepia last edited by

                      @nepia Digging a bit further pre scholarship days he was listed as attending Haunui College when listed amongst the 2020 Blues Under 17 Development squad. Whether he is from Whangarei or from further north I suppose we will have to await confirmation from the likes of @taniwharugby. Looks to be a big munter if the couple of unlabeled photos I saw are indeed him.

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae last edited by

                        His father is an ex-Northland player.

                        It just means that some of these new players have been selected for the Hurricanes U20s wider squad already.

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                        • taniwharugby
                          taniwharugby @Higgins last edited by

                          @higgins from Whangarei, son of former Northland, Blues and NZ 7s player, Tony Monaghan.

                          I havent seen him for a a decent time (played touch rugby against him, one of his brothers and mates in late 2021) so cant comment on his size now, but dont think he was massively tall, more a 6 height IIRC (although that means lock in Hurricane-ville.)

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                          • Higgins
                            Higgins @taniwharugby last edited by Higgins

                            @taniwharugby Maybe the photos that came up when I google searched weren't him? The guy in those had the Taniela Tupou sort of build but looked a bit taller than Tupou.

                            a419fa78-cc7d-4568-8e52-a3b5f0e45830-Matt Monaghan.jpg

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                            • Bovidae
                              Bovidae @Higgins last edited by

                              @higgins Check out the King's-AGS game on YouTube. Monaghan makes a few good runs.

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                              • taniwharugby
                                taniwharugby @Higgins last edited by

                                @higgins neither of them are a Monaghan!

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                                • Higgins
                                  Higgins @taniwharugby last edited by Higgins

                                  @taniwharugby Thanks! Just watching the Grammar v Kings game on youtube to see what he plays/looks like, the guy pictured above is the Kings tight head prop in that game.

                                  EDIT: @Nepia It looks like he is the guy in the red 4 jersey making a midfield burst running time 14 mins 25sec into the coverage or 5minutes 30 seconds on the game clock. Looks like he was the rear lifter for the guy in No. 6 that won the lineout steal for the play that set up his burst

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                                  • Nepia
                                    Nepia @Bovidae last edited by

                                    @bovidae said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                                    His father is an ex-Northland player.

                                    It just means that some of these new players have been selected for the Hurricanes U20s wider squad already.

                                    Yeah, I didn't read it properly and thought it was Hurricanes Schools.

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                                    • Number 10
                                      Number 10 @Nepia last edited by

                                      HBRU AGM last night.

                                      All over in 40 minutes.

                                      Profit of $137,000 for 2021. Reserves now over $2.5 million.

                                      Patron and 2 Board members re-elected unopposed.

                                      The new HQ in Orotu Drive is now mortgage free. Two more RDO's appointed.

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                                      • Nepia
                                        Nepia @Number 10 last edited by

                                        @number-10 They didn’t discuss my agenda item of putting the Canes on notice for their anti Magpies selection bias?

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                                        • Number 10
                                          Number 10 @Nepia last edited by

                                          @nepia

                                          Hurricanes were never mentioned, but I think many share your view!

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                                          • Higgins
                                            Higgins @Number 10 last edited by Higgins

                                            @number-10 Just imagine what the profit would have been had they been allowed to have proper crowds for the Shield Defences. I guess the gate would have been conservatively affected by at least five or six thousand for each one with the Covid-19 restricted attendances. Our marketing/sponsorship people must be doing a fabulous job to get us to that level (although the annual distribution from the NZRFU must also help) however they sure don't spend much of it on social medial/website news, team naming releases etc!

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                                            • Number 10
                                              Number 10 @Higgins last edited by

                                              Two Ranfurly Shield defences against Heartland opposition confirmed:

                                              Wednesday June 29 v South Canterbury

                                              Saturday July 30 v Poverty Bay

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                                              • Higgins
                                                Higgins last edited by

                                                I was hoping for one against King Country so the Meads Tremain Trophy could be at contested again. Come to think of it why don't we give heaps more challenges to Heartland Unions in the early season to pad our Shield record out a bit more and to move further clearer from Waikato as the third most successful Union?

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                                                • Stockcar86
                                                  Stockcar86 @Number 10 last edited by

                                                  @number-10 said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                                                  HBRU AGM last night.

                                                  All over in 40 minutes.

                                                  Profit of $137,000 for 2021. Reserves now over $2.5 million.

                                                  Patron and 2 Board members re-elected unopposed.

                                                  The new HQ in Orotu Drive is now mortgage free. Two more RDO's appointed.

                                                  RDO?

                                                  Maybe I am too deep in my works new payroll system implementation, but the only thing I can think of is Rostered Day Off...

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                                                  • Stargazer
                                                    Stargazer @Stockcar86 last edited by

                                                    @stockcar86 Rugby development officer?

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                                                    • Number 10
                                                      Number 10 @Stockcar86 last edited by

                                                      @stockcar86 said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                                                      @number-10 said in 2022 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                                                      HBRU AGM last night.

                                                      All over in 40 minutes.

                                                      Profit of $137,000 for 2021. Reserves now over $2.5 million.

                                                      Patron and 2 Board members re-elected unopposed.

                                                      The new HQ in Orotu Drive is now mortgage free. Two more RDO's appointed.

                                                      RDO?

                                                      Maybe I am too deep in my works new payroll system implementation, but the only thing I can think of is Rostered Day Off...

                                                      Rugby Development Officer.

                                                      Preseason game this Saturday at Tremain Field - NOB Marist v Hastings RS.

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                                                      • Stargazer
                                                        Stargazer last edited by

                                                        It looks like our Academy has lost midfielder Andrew Hayward (from the 2019 Hastings Boys' champions team). He posted a photo of himself on a rugby field at Ryutsu Keizai University in Japan, calling it his new stomping ground. I assume he's going to play in the Japanese University competition, about which I could not find any recent info.

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                                          hbmagpies: Awesome end to a testing block for our academy boys who hit some awesome numbers in the gym 👀 watch out club footy!


                                                          Our reps in the Hurricanes U20s aren't there. A few look familiar, but I hardly hardly put names to faces in this photo ...

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                                                            Steven Harris last edited by

                                                            Hey Fellas , just reaching out for a bit of information on a player that has transferred into the Northland area .
                                                            Trent Kake ..he is halfback ,
                                                            Want to know if he has played any NPC games for Hawkes Bay
                                                            Strengths and weaknesses and where he was ranked ..

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                                                            • taniwharugby
                                                              taniwharugby @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                              @steven-harris so he has just moved up here to try for a contract (do you know which club he is going to) not our dumb coaches signing people before club footy started?

                                                              Plenty of Kake's up this way...

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                                                              • Stargazer
                                                                Stargazer @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                                @steven-harris Are you sure his name is Trent Kake? I don't know anybody with that name from here. If his name is Trent Hape, it's another story ...

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                                                                • Number 10
                                                                  Number 10 @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                  Agree with @Stargazer - I suspect the player is Trent Hape.

                                                                  Came through the HB Academy, has played sevens for HB, last year played for the HB Dev team and the Magpies WTG, so was probably 4th ranked in the province last year behind Enari, McLeod, and Tusitala.

                                                                  Can also cover wing which is why he has played sevens.

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                                                                    Steven Harris @Number 10 last edited by Steven Harris

                                                                    @number-10 my apologies Trent Hape is the fella .
                                                                    Would you rate him ahead of Connor McLeod and Zac Donaldson..?.
                                                                    And do you see him as an NPC halfback..?

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                                                                    • Stargazer
                                                                      Stargazer @Steven Harris last edited by

                                                                      @steven-harris Definitely not rated ahead of McLeod by the Magpies coaches, but mabye about the same level as Donaldson, who has played 8 games for the Magpies during his 5 years in the Magpies Dev team.

                                                                      Hape played on the wing for Hastings Boys' in the 2016 Top 4 Final loss to MAGS and was also part of the 2017 title winning squad. He's been part of the HB Sevens team for years and participated in the Ignite 7s - I think in 2018. Can play halfback, wing and first five. He's been part of the Magpies Academy and WTG for a few years, probably played some preseason games for the Magpies (I can't remember), but never made the step up to first class games (either NPC or the Heartland Ranfurly Shield games).

                                                                      @taniwharugby According to the article below, he plays for Old Boys Marist.

                                                                      Northern Advocate

                                                                      Otamatea and OBM come together again to remember Jordan Kemp

                                                                      Otamatea and OBM come together again to remember Jordan Kemp

                                                                      Otamatea wins in the Jordan Kemp Memorial game in Kaiwaka.

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                                                                      • taniwharugby
                                                                        taniwharugby @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                        @stargazer yeah I was speaking to @Steven-Harris earlier and said he (Trent Kake 😉 ) had played for OBM on weekend.

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                                                                          Steven Harris @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                          @stargazer cheers mate , much obliged

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                                                                          • Stargazer
                                                                            Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                                                            This is the Hawke's Bay squad to play the Hurricanes U20 tonight (9 May 2022):

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                                                                            There are 7 more Hawke's Bay players in the Hurricanes U20s.

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                                                                            • Stargazer
                                                                              Stargazer last edited by

                                                                              Not sure what to make of this.

                                                                              Tiaki Fabish has been named in an initial Wellington Māori squad for the 2022 season. Either that's because he's no longer in our Academy or Wider Training Group, or it's because our WTG hasn't been named, yet.

                                                                              I wouldn't be happy if we lose him to whatever Wellington side, although I realise he's studying in Wellington, and playing club rugby there for that reason. I'd rather see him play for the Saracens and be available for the Magpies, in case we have a long list of injuries.

                                                                              clubrugby  /  May 10, 2022

                                                                              2022 Wellington Māori squad and itinerary revealed

                                                                              2022 Wellington Māori squad and itinerary revealed
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                                                                              • Number 10
                                                                                Number 10 @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                Playing field at HBRU HQ is renamed MacRae Field.

                                                                                Sport, New Zealand, Rugby, Hawkes Bay Today

                                                                                Ian MacRae Field opens as one of Hawke's Bay's greatest opens up on darkest day

                                                                                Ian MacRae Field opens as one of Hawke's Bay's greatest opens up on darkest day

                                                                                All Blacks great on tough times in black jersey and latest honour for his legacy.

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                                                                                • Stargazer
                                                                                  Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                  Posted by the Central Hawke's Bay Rugby (sub) union:

                                                                                  Schedule for the Central Hawke's Bay rep team:

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                                                                                  • Nepia
                                                                                    Nepia @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                    @Stargazer Has there always been a CHB rep team? How is the team selected?

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