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    Highlanders U20 squad. Quite a few lads who have headed down from elsewhere. A couple of Hawke's Bay. Highlanders under-20
    The squad
    Forwards: Hunter Fahey, Moana Takataka, Liam McIntosh, Thomas Jackson, Fatai Koloi, Jack Taylor, A One Lolofie, Lawrence Leung-wai, Reuben Palmer, Hunter Areaiiti, Konrad Toleafoa, Will Stodart, Lucas Casey, Max Ratcliffe, Aaron Withy, Semisi Tupou Ta’eiloa.

    Backs: Brad Campbell, Fionn McKenna, Ajay Faleafaga, Jeremiah Asi, Cam Burgess, Josh Whaanga, Jack Timu, Caleb Williams, Mefi Tupou, Finn Hurley, Kyan Rangitutia.

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    I wondered where Reuben Palmer was, as he was in the Chiefs U20s last year, but wasn't in the wider squad this year.

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    @SouthernMann It's depressing how Hawke's Bay keep losing players to other provinces. A One Lolofie is a good prop out of Hastings Boys' and Max Ratcliffe is a very good loosie (6/8) and former captain of Napier Boys'. Both are a big loss to us..

    Brad Campbell is a halfback out of Lindisfarne College and Mefi Tupou is an excellent, strong midfielder/wing, who played for Hastings Boys' (2019 Top 4 champ). Both Campbell and Tupou aren't recent school leavers. Tupou has already a year Magpies academy under his belt, was in the 2022 Hawke's Bay U19 team and was named in the 2022 NZ U19 team, but didn't play due to injury. Campbell already moved to Dunedin, last year.

    Correction: Campbell attended St John's College, Hastings, not Lindisfare College.

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    Highlanders media release:

    Highlanders U20s Tournament Squad Announcement | Highlanders Rugby Club Limited Partnership

    Highlanders U20s Tournament Squad Announcement | Highlanders Rugby Club Limited Partnership
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    @Stargazer said in 2023 Super Rugby U20s:

    @SouthernMann It's depressing how Hawke's Bay keep losing players to other provinces. A One Lolofie is a good prop out of Hastings Boys' and Max Ratcliffe is a very good loosie (6/8) and former captain of Napier Boys'. Both are a big loss to us..

    Brad Campbell is a halfback out of Lindisfarne College and Mefi Tupou is an excellent, strong midfielder/wing, who played for Hastings Boys' (2019 Top 4 champ). Both Campbell and Tupou aren't recent school leavers. Tupou has already a year Magpies academy under his belt, was in the 2022 Hawke's Bay U19 team and was named in the 2022 NZ U19 team, but didn't play due to injury. Campbell already moved to Dunedin, last year.

    Sounds like a promising group. Are there any that ypu think are capable of making the step up to big boy footy?

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    @SouthernMann Hard to say at this age. They've all been in Hurricanes U18. Ratcliffe was the Māori U18 captain, last year. All have played HB age grade rugby. That's no guarantee for a step up.

    Mefi Tupou played mostly on the wing for Hastings Boys', but moved to the midfield after leaving school. Can be quite a devastating ball runner, but whether he can do that at NPC level and above? It was enough for NZ U19 selection, so that could be a good sign.

    Of this group of 4, I have the highest expectations of Max Ratcliffe, who's an excellent leader as well.

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    I don't think that Ratcliffe will be a starter in that Highlanders team, but definitely next year.

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    @Bovidae Yeah, I think that applies to all, or most, recent school leavers.

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    @Stargazer There were plenty of recent school leavers who started for the U20s last year, and will do so this year. That will be dependent on the needs of each team in specific positions.

    If I had to guess the Highlanders loose forward trio will be Stodart, Withy and Tupou Ta’eiloa. Stodart might be used as a lock though, as he was for the NZ U19s at times.

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    @Stargazer said in 2023 Super Rugby U20s:

    @SouthernMann Hard to say at this age. They've all been in Hurricanes U18. Ratcliffe was the Māori U18 captain, last year. All have played HB age grade rugby. That's no guarantee for a step up.

    Mefi Tupou played mostly on the wing for Hastings Boys', but moved to the midfield after leaving school. Can be quite a devastating ball runner, but whether he can do that at NPC level and above? It was enough for NZ U19 selection, so that could be a good sign.

    Of this group of 4, I have the highest expectations of Max Ratcliffe, who's an excellent leader as well.

    Hopefully Ratcliffe can be as good as you think. Then, we will be developing a good group of loosies with Michaels, Withy, Broughton, Haig, himself and some of the more experienced guys with time left. I'm hoping we will be able to land some decent midfielders and back three players. It is where we are really lacking. I expect one of Millar of Faleafaga should have a decent future at 10.

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    @SouthernMann I hope so, too. No guarantees that a player who's good at 1st XV and age grade level will also be good at a higher level.

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    Relevant to this tournament. The Irish U20s have put up some big scores in the 6N.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/131504114/how-french-and-irish-player-development-took-them-past-the-all-blacks

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    Looks strong, the forwards especially.

    Hurricanes 2023 U20 Squad:

    Konradd Newland (Hawke’s Bay), Malakai Hala-Ngatai (Manawatū), Vernon Bason (Manawatū), Raymond Tuputupu (Manawatū), Senio Sanele (Wellington), Siale Lauaki (Wellington), Bradley Crichton (Wellington), Tom Allen (Hawke’s Bay), Hunter Morrison (Hawke’s Bay), Matt Monaghan (Hawke’s Bay), Dominic Ropeti (Wellington) (VC), Kusitino Savea (Hawke’s Bay), Cooper Flanders (Hawke’s Bay) (C), Toby Crosby (Wellington), Matolu Petaia (Wellington)
    Jordi Viljoen (Manawatū), Sam Howling (Wellington), Harry Godfrey (Hawke’s Bay) (VC), Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula (Manawatū), Jack O’Brien (Wellington), Meni Manase (Hawke’s Bay), Epeli (Waqa) Waqaicece (Manawatū), Bethel Malasia (Hawke’s Bay), Josiah Sakaria (Hawke’s Bay), Sam Coles (Manawatū), Chicago Doyle (Wellington), Tofuka Paongo (Wellington)

    Hurricanes Named for Bunnings Warehouse Super Rugby U20s in Taupō

    Hurricanes Named for Bunnings Warehouse Super Rugby U20s in Taupō
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    @Bovidae Not surprised at all that Cooper Flanders is the captain. I see Harry Godfrey is one of the vice-captains, Dom Ropeti being the other.

    Of the original WTG announced in early February, there's one notable Hawke's Bay ommision in Corey Berkett, who IMO is a great talent. He also didn't attend the early Hurricanes U20 Dev camp, nor did he play in the game against the Crusaders U20, so maybe he's injured or they didn't need another 10. He'll still be eligible next year, I think. Or, he's in the NZ Barbarians team.

    I don't think there are too many suprises in the team, with many returning for the second year.

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    I assume that the other squads get released tomorrow, although MP were meant to name their squad yesterday according to their own media release.

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    It's the third tournament for Bradley Crichton, Harry Godfrey, Dominic Ropeti and Raymond Tuputupu.

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    https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/university-of-waikato-chiefs-under-20-squad-named

    Props
    Gabe Robinson (Waikato)
    Perry Lawrence (Taranaki)
    Manahi Goulton (Waikato)
    Keran Van Straden (Counties Manukau)
    William Martin (Waikato)

    Hookers
    Taine Kolosi (Bay of Plenty)
    Sean Ralph (Waikato)

    Locks
    Fiti Sa (Taranaki)
    Peter Te Kahu (Taranaki)

    Locks/loosies
    Andrew Smith (Waikato)
    Tai Cribb (Waikato)

    Loose forwards
    Grady Forbes (Bay of Plenty)
    Jonty Short (Waikato)
    Senita Lauaki (Waikato)
    Malachi Wrampling (Waikato)

    Halfbacks
    Marley Murphy (Bay of Plenty)
    Cohen Brady-Leathem (Counties Manukau)

    1st 5s
    Josh Penney (Counties Manukau)
    Brayden Dew (Bay of Plenty)

    Midfield backs
    Aki Tuivailala (Waikato)
    Te Hamana Te Aute (Bay of Plenty)
    Tāmiro Armstrong (Bay of Plenty)
    Codemeru Vai (Bay of Plenty)

    Outside backs
    Esau Filimoehala (Counties Manukau)
    Waisake Salabiau (Waikato)
    Cody Nordstrom (Waikato)
    Jole Naufahu (Waikato)

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    @Bovidae Good to see some CM second rowers in that squad. A weak area for us.

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    Toby Taylor mustn't have recovered from his injury.

    @Crucial Ignore the numbers as they look to be squad numbers, not positions. It is listed from props to fullbacks.

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