EPL 2024/2025
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:
@Cyclops said in EPL 2024/2025:
What about Leeds?
No - another team not to drop to the 4th division. You have to think of clubs that have had a really shit time over the years, not just shit enough to fall down to the 3rd (a few "big" teams have done that over the years)
I had wondered if the financial crisis might have been enough to drop them all the way down.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2024/2025:
Burnley
That's the 4th one - just one more club to get and this is probably the hardest one.
By that do you mean they are now extinct? Or not in the league?
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@Bovidae said in EPL 2024/2025:
The last team was in the EPL as recently as last season.
Sheffield utd?
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@nonpartizan said in EPL 2024/2025:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2024/2025:
The last team was in the EPL as recently as last season.
Sheffield utd?
Yes that's the one. I don't think of them as a title winner - although 1897-1898 is a bit early even for me.
Preston v Burnley was the very first match of the first football league in 1888. Apparently they didn't think about points being awarded until after the game as they wondered how they would rank the teams in the league.
And not Preston are into the quarter-finals of the FA Cup to play Aston Villa - and those 2 were champions and runners-up in the very first season.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:
@nonpartizan said in EPL 2024/2025:
@Bovidae said in EPL 2024/2025:
The last team was in the EPL as recently as last season.
Sheffield utd?
Yes that's the one. I don't think of them as a title winner - although 1897-1898 is a bit early even for me.
Preston v Burnley was the very first match of the first football league in 1888. Apparently they didn't think about points being awarded until after the game as they wondered how they would rank the teams in the league.
And not Preston are into the quarter-finals of the FA Cup to play Aston Villa - and those 2 were champions and runners-up in the very first season.
Yup. I believe they both won league and cup doubles in the 19th century and were the only clubs to do it until Spurs became the third in 1961.
If you look at the football league in the 19th century in isolation I believe Everton & Sunderland were the two other most successful sides when the league was in its infancy.
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@KiwiPie said in EPL 2024/2025:
And Sunderland wanted to be a founder member of the football league but weren't allowed as they were too far away!
Oh, that's interesting! That was the nature of it back then, you had to get elected into the league.
I know in the case of Chelsea we just lucked out on getting elected into the football league in 1905, otherwise we would have had to start life in the Southern league. The club actually would never have existed if not for the fact that Fulham were offered Stamford Bridge to play on and declined.
The All Black originals played at Stamford Bridge in 1905 only a few months after Chelsea played their first match there.
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Preston away for us. A big fixture this in the late 19th century.
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For anyone who didn't see this incident on Saturday - feel a bit sorry for the keeper here, he's going to get notoriety for only this.
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That's a bit reckless.
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Sunderland, Liverpool, ManU are three I know off the top of my head.
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Arsenal I would imagine in the 30s.
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And Villa too.
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@nonpartizan said in EPL 2024/2025:
And Villa too.
That's right - took over from Sunderland. And haven't won shit since
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@antipodean said in EPL 2024/2025:
@nonpartizan said in EPL 2024/2025:
And Villa too.
That's right - took over from Sunderland. And haven't won shit since
😂
Kiwipie, the most recent..... The only sides to have won a ton of leagues not mentioned....
It must be Everton 1987?
