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    @Mauss That there Diane is some damn good analysis.

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    @nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    Dead right, he looks so good at 8! Maybe the open spaces and broken play suit him even more than at 7?

    To be honest, I think Lakai’s game translates well to both positions. Even when playing at 8, he still does a lot of stuff you’d associate more with the openside-role (playing close to source, offering support and cleaning, disrupting breakdowns). He’s a bit like Aldritt, in that he’s getting through so much work that it often looks like he’s playing both positions at the same time.

    But when he plays like he did in that final quarter on Friday then he really does look like a proper number 8. You'd want the ball in his hands as much as possible, whereas at 7 that aspect of his game wouldn't be as prominent.

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    @Mauss On the other hand, the game was already lost by then - down by 21 points, and he had been largely anonymous to that point?

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    @reprobate said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    @Mauss On the other hand, the game was already lost by then - down by 21 points, and he had been largely anonymous to that point?

    How was the game lost by then? At the 75 minute mark, the Canes were behind by 7, inside the Crusaders 22 and playing against 13 men. They were in an excellent position to take the game (or at the least, force the game to go to golden point), only to come unstuck due to a number of self-inflicted errors and dogged Crusader defence.

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    lakai s problem isn't what he does with the ball its missed tackes. I quick browse of stats for this weekend, paps 0 LJ 0 finau 1 lakai 3 EB 5

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    @ploughboy said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    lakai s problem isn't what he does with the ball its missed tackes. I quick browse of stats for this weekend, paps 0 LJ 0 finau 1 lakai 3 EB 5

    So Blackadder made it to rucks to have an impact this week, but made it to tackles and didn't have an impact.

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    Quick scrum question, does having a short hooker compared to the props make it harder for the locks to generate power (as your shoulders would be angled?). No idea just genuinely curious if it reduces scrum power.
    Would that be a downside for a hooker of moananu's height?

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    @Mauss said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    @reprobate said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    @Mauss On the other hand, the game was already lost by then - down by 21 points, and he had been largely anonymous to that point?

    How was the game lost by then? At the 75 minute mark, the Canes were behind by 7, inside the Crusaders 22 and playing against 13 men. They were in an excellent position to take the game (or at the least, force the game to go to golden point), only to come unstuck due to a number of self-inflicted errors and dogged Crusader defence.

    If you end up against 13 men and still can't win the game, then surely a big reason for that is that it was too far gone already? Yes there's still a chance to win it, but I'd reckon more than 9 times out of 10 you don't.
    I completely agree Lakai was good in that period, and I really want him to be good, but to be honest I haven't been overly impressed this season (yet). I'd always put more weight on an impressive showing in a game that is close throughout, or in the first half of a big game - as opposed to looking good late in a game where the opposition may well have taken the foot off the gas. For me yes he was good, but there're caveats.

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    @reprobate said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    I'd always put more weight on an impressive showing in a game that is close throughout, or in the first half of a big game

    Interesting criteria. I suppose I understand the logic there, the start of the game being like an opening arm wrestle between forwards, where you want to impose your own game.

    I guess I look at it a bit differently. I think of performance less like an arm wrestle and more like an 80 minute-race with a finish line. In cycling, you can attack early and build a lead, or you can lead the chase and finish on top through superior momentum. Each tactic has different physical and psychological challenges. The moment of your peak performance doesn’t really matter so much, so long as you’re able to get over the line first. I think the Canes timed their race well, they didn’t look gassed to me near the end. Just a lack of execution cost them.

    I’m also not making any sort of case for Peter Lakai here. Just wanted to highlight how he gave a real number 8-performance in the final quarter and what that looked like to me.

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    @Lancaster-Park said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    Quick scrum question, does having a short hooker compared to the props make it harder for the locks to generate power (as your shoulders would be angled?). No idea just genuinely curious if it reduces scrum power.
    Would that be a downside for a hooker of moananu's height?

    your shoulders shouldn't be pushing the hooker anyway. All your power should be through your outside shoulder on to your prop.

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    Thank you

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