Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau
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<p>Magpies team to play Counties:</p>
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<p>1. Ricky Riccitelli</p>
<p>2. Ash Dixon (c)</p>
<p>3. Ben May</p>
<p>4. Geoff Cridge</p>
<p>5. Mark Abbott</p>
<p>6. Trent Boswell-Wakefield</p>
<p>7. Ben Hamelink</p>
<p>8. Fa'alemiga Selesele</p>
<p>9. Brad Weber</p>
<p>10. Ihaia West</p>
<p>11. Mason Emerson</p>
<p>12. Billy Ropiha</p>
<p>13. Jonah Lowe</p>
<p>14. Robbie Fruean</p>
<p>15. Ryan Tongia</p>
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<p>Reserves:</p>
<p>16. Jorian Tangaere 17. Jason Long 18. Tolu Fahamokioa 19. Ross Filipo 20. Hugh Renton 21. Ellery Wilson 22. Tiaan Falcon 23. Matt Garland</p>
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<p>Hope this new line-up with Fruean at 14 and Tongia at 15 will work better. Lewis Marshall is paying for his mistakes (missing a tackle - leading to a try - and tackling Tongia in the process, is one example from last game).</p>
<p>Good to see TBW back; not too sure about Hamelink getting a start, although Lamborn doesn't seem to do too well at 7 (under the new rules).</p> -
<p>Marshall is unavailable due to concussion, and Lamborn unavailable due to illness.</p>
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<p>Marshall is unavailable due to concussion, and Lamborn unavailable due to illness.</p>
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<p>Thanks for clearing that up.</p>
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<p>Another concussion. I wonder why so many players our out with concussion these days. Are they only now taking concussion seriously, or are the numbers really increasing? If it's the latter, why?</p> -
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<p>Thanks for clearing that up.</p>
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<p>Another concussion. I wonder why so many players our out with concussion these days. Are they only now taking concussion seriously, <strong>or are the numbers really increasing? If it's the latter, why?</strong></p>
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<p>More head knocks, I would say</p> -
<p>McNicol and Chase are both still out due to concussion.</p>
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<p>Boswell-Wakefield is back from the shoulder injury he sustained in the final pre-season match v North Harbour.</p> -
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<p> Lewis Marshall is paying for his mistakes (missing a tackle - leading to a try - and tackling Tongia in the process, is one example from last game).</p>
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<p>If missing a tackle leading to a try was the reason then Mr. Phillpot would be struggling to name a 15 such were the numbers that would be excluded after the Taranaki match. Hopefully things will improve in the tackling stakes, it could hardly get any worse.</p> -
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<p>If missing a tackle leading to a try was the reason then Mr. Phillpot would be struggling to name a 15 such were the numbers that would be excluded after the Taranaki match. Hopefully things will improve in the tackling stakes, it could hardly get any worse.</p>
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<p>Didn't note the "is one example" in my comment? But you're right that defence has been a huge issue for a lot of players. I wonder whether/how much the new rules (or inability to adapt to these rules & the refs interpretation of them) has really played a role.</p>
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<p>I hope they've watched Otago play, because they seem to have found a good way of playing under these rules.</p> -
<p>Sad to say but a very unispiring start by the Bay and it's already HB 0 - 3 Counties (drop goal to Piers Francis) after just three minuntes. The Bay yet to get their hands on the ball.</p>
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<p>Despite a huge demolition of the Counties scrum they still manage to win a penatly from the reset which results in a scabby kick and chase try to Counties HB 00 - 10. Eight minutes gone.</p>
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<p>Take the points you muppets! A HB penalty direct in front 15 metres out and they kick for touch and then stuff the lineout up.</p>
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<p>A take the points plea after another penalty in a similar position to the last one.</p>
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<p>What an average start.</p>
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<p>Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.</p> -
<p>Thankfully commonsense prevails and Ihaia West converts the opportunity into three points. HB 03 - 10 Counties after 15 minutes</p>
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<p>What an average start.</p>
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<p>Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.</p>
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<p>Give <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mikaele Tu'u a chance I say</span></p> -
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<p>What an average start.</p>
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<p>Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.</p>
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<p>Agreed on both counts (Mike Coman might not have been so bad after all!!!!) but somehow the Bay manage to score a try wide out on the right to Robbie Fruean and its nicely converted by West HB 10 - 10 Counties after twenty minutes</p> -
<p>That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement</p>
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<p>HB tackling is pathetic</p>
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<p>If the tactic by the coach is to kick it away and we can't tackle, how do they expect to win</p>
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<p>That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement</p>
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<p>Yeah we seem to suffer at the hands of touch judges and TMOs in Napier</p> -
<p>URRRGGGGGGHHH, how much more of this shit can someone take as Counties score a rediculously easy converted try</p>
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<p>TMO screwing us again</p>
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<p>Now Selesele manages to find another way of butchering a try. Why do my guys make try scoring look so difficult?</p>
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<p>This five metre scrum must bring a try to the Bay</p>
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<p>No, they manage to find someway to avoid that despite the scrum having looked good in most scrums prior to that.</p>
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<p>FFS that was balking by Pulu</p>
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<p>A deliberate infringement by him should have resulted in a yellow card.</p>
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What was that penalty??
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<p>this ref is just guessing at everything</p>
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<p>if HB did not give up 4 or 5 soft tries each game, they could be competitive</p>
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That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement</p></blockquote>
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I'm sitting in the Harris Stand and looked foot on the line from where I am<br>
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<p>Clear as daylight, I never miss any infringements against HB!</p>
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<p>How did the ref decide that was where the penalty should be when it was for a man in front?</p>
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<p>Agreed on both counts (<strong>Mike Coman might not have been so bad after all!!!!</strong>) but somehow the Bay manage to score a try wide out on the right to Robbie Fruean and its nicely converted by West HB 10 - 10 Counties after twenty minutes</p>
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<p>Lets not get silly!</p>
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<p>I'm sitting in the Harris Stand and looked foot on the line from where I am<br>
did TV show it?</p>
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<p>Weirdly they didn't show a replay.</p> -
<p>Remember this is supposed to be the easier part of the season, with a decent gap between games</p>
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<p>FFS even the scrum has turned to shit</p>
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<p>Now even the scrum has turned to custard</p>
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<p>But as long as they are enjoying themselves Mr Philpott</p>
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<p>Peter Russell was given the archer after taking the team to promotion. Wonder what will be the prize for winning relegation will be for this coaching outfit?</p>
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<p>Just in case anyone is interested the score has ballooned out to HB 13 - 31 Counties after fifty minutes.</p>
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<p>Ben May has gone down in the last two scrums, but thats ok as he was signed for his experience too bad they did not factor in his scrummaging ability.</p>
