@Siam said in US Politics:
@canefan if he meant the unlawful looters when he said " shooting starts" then that's a reasonable argument right there.
You don't really believe this do you? Based solely on my reading of your other posts over time,I can't believe you do
From a mate in SanFran:
"Just had a beer with my neighbor who’s a cop in SF city. He’s a Sergeant and only been working one day a week since Covid started. He’s going back to full time as of tomorrow- all because of the Minneapolis backlash. He’s going straight into a demonstration planned for tomorrow. Fuck that"
@Virgil said in Lockdown Check In:
Anyway I have taken them all home for the weekend, operation kitten rescue has continued with a giant cage in our living room with the abandoned/wild kittens inside.
No idea what we are doing really, just know I want to give them a Chance to find a new home and not end up being put down..
Just when you think you've found an online forum with a small community of likeminded folk wanting to talk sport, bloody cats still find a way to dominate the internet 
@Siam said in US Politics:
@voodoo ok fair enough.
Perhaps our differences lie in the ability or willingness of the rioters to respond to words from authority.
I also don't think the rioters were expressing support for George Floyd, so any reference to that incident doesn't deal with damage caused and violent behaviour.I don't think his poor choice of words compares to the behaviour of looters.
Thanks for the reply
Yeah, I dunno how effective anything he could say would actually be, but I do think his words could certainly have an inflammatory effect on the situation. Plenty of armed civilans would feel emboldened by those words.
As an aside, check this out for weird - I have had the book Infinite Detail next to my bed for the last 2 months, waiting for me to finish my current one. I just read the back cover 10mins ago, then randomly flicked it open. Landed on Page 100, which looks like this:
Trippy!!!
@Siam said in US Politics:
@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
It never occurred to me that anyone would assume that Trump was suggesting shooting (and maybe killing) the protestors. To me it just meant the NG would give a tough and firm response
What else can you take from "Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts?
Even if he didn't mean it literally, it isn't exactly a unifying or calming statement is it??
The USA has deep rooted racial problems that have been there forever. The George Floyd video is pretty damning, but I've seen similar stuff many times before.
There is a reason why most black americans seem to have a level of distrust of the Po Po, this is just one of numerous incidents, and nothing ever seems to change
He's addressing looters and rioters. Not a church group
And your post is confusing. Are you saying the George Floyd death justifies the looting and rioting so Trump should support them. Or let them be. Of course if he did the Trump haters would go even more crazy
Sometimes it's hard to know if you're being deliberately obtuse or if you genuinely believe in the tripe you spout.
Here it is in more simple terms:
The President of the USA should not tweet messages that appear to support the shooting of people who loot, or any other criminal act for that matter.
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
There are a million ways the President could have tried to de-escalate this situation, and instead he went down an inflammatory path. Again.
Just disgraceful behaviour.
Name one mate.
Just for fun give one way to deal with those people stealing and destroying. One piece of communication that doesn't involve a threat of arrest. And yes of course firearms are used by the army, so yes, it's no surprise there'll be shooting. Its an incredibly serious breakdown of social order. That's what happens when you burn and steal from the innocent. What other options to stop that mob?
Not your best post mate. You have named one alternative yourself, a reminder that they'll be arrested. And charged. He could also have said that he would push for a full investigation into the incident, and if guilty, an assurance that there will be justice. He could have said that now is not the time for violence, but for solidarity, to come together, that police violence is not going to be ignored, but that violent protests are not the answer3.
Any-fucking-thing except saying that you'll probably get shot, with no distinction between armed police or armed citizens
@Winger said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
It never occurred to me that anyone would assume that Trump was suggesting shooting (and maybe killing) the protestors. To me it just meant the NG would give a tough and firm response
What else can you take from "Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts?
Even if he didn't mean it literally, it isn't exactly a unifying or calming statement is it??
The USA has deep rooted racial problems that have been there forever. The George Floyd video is pretty damning, but I've seen similar stuff many times before.
There is a reason why most black americans seem to have a level of distrust of the Po Po, this is just one of numerous incidents, and nothing ever seems to change
He's addressing looters and rioters. Not a church group
And your post is confusing. Are you saying the George Floyd death justifies the looting and rioting so Trump should support them. Or let them be. Of course if he did the Trump haters would go even more crazy
Sometimes it's hard to know if you're being deliberately obtuse or if you genuinely believe in the tripe you spout.
Here it is in more simple terms:
The President of the USA should not tweet messages that appear to support the shooting of people who loot, or any other criminal act for that matter.
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
There are a million ways the President could have tried to de-escalate this situation, and instead he went down an inflammatory path. Again.
Just disgraceful behaviour.
@mariner4life what are you going to get? I'll likely stick with some variation of the Adidas Boost I reckon
So I've figured out why my calves are giving me grief. Turns out I just need to throw some money at the problem.
This website says to replace them after 300-500 miles, and I've done about 340miles (550kms) in mine - clearly that's the problem!!!
http://www.therunnersguide.com/howlongrunningshoeslast/
New shoe day coming up!
@kiwiinmelb said in Covid-19 and keeping fit:
Anyone else here into mountain biking ?
I’m a bit addicted ,Been riding most weekends for about 7 years, really fun way to get in some cardio.
I used to road bike a bit, but was never committed as I hated the early morning starts and commitment to 3-4 hours in the saddle.
Mountain biking seems a better option, you can go out for 2hrs in the middle of the day and still get a safe workout.
Will def get into it when I get back to Sydney
@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo mate at Huntington beach was off out to the pub on a bike in the weekend so must be relaxing.
Checked in with my mate overnight, this was the response:
"No - we just got another 2 weeks slapped on in our county (Sonoma) for a slight rise in cases. Wineries are now open for “outdoor dining only” since last week. But the issue is - the “Shelter In Place (SIP)” is still in place for all of California so technically you aren’t supposed to leave your house unless it’s essential. Which is completely fucked and confusing for businesses. We can open but aren’t allowed visitors to the wine country...
On a funny note - the County Sherrif in Sonoma just announced that they’re not going to fine or cite anyone anymore for breaking SIP rules - so even the law enforcement are over it. True story but kinda shocking as to how much of a mess it is here."
@Bovidae said in TV Serieseseses:
Catching up with the latest episodes of Billions. A cameo from The Human Highlight Film.
Really???? I need to watch this now!!!
@SynicBast said in Covid-19 and keeping fit:
right so, despite the last week being a serious blip, I'm back to 60 kilos, and around 15 cigs a day which is way down on my usual intake. Coffee is still around 10-12 mugs, but I've almost cut out all the sugar. Eating a shitload of bread though. Packing away genuine curries (none of that westerner palate shit either). Even managed not to eat a whole box of muesli in three days.
Picture of health 
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman and yet California has been subject to one of the longest and most severe lockdowns yeah?
You've got me on that. I do think they started early, but haven't really heard anything in last few weeks.
I think they're still going, but can't be sure. A mate as of a week ago, who runs a wine tasting tour business to Sonoma Valley, was still unable to operate . May have changed in the last week though
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
@antipodean said in Law trials and changes:
@mariner4life said in Law trials and changes:
i like a lot of those tweaks though
I only like the last.
I certainly don't like the idea of a team that can't scrum getting to opt out of the contest and play league.
nah, fuck it. Scrums are meant to be a way to restart play. We've gone too far now, and it's become this blight on the game where it's all gamesmanship up front and trying to con the ref.
I also hate scrum after scrum on a goal line that always ends up with a prop binned. It's shit to watch.
I'm good with ending multiple resets. But after a single collapse, #1 looks like a free and easy option for the ref who doesn't really know whats going on in there, to simply say "collapse, no fault, free kick".
And I'm baffled by any support of removing the scrum as an attacking option when you win a penalty close in, surely that's an entrenched and quality part of the game?
@pakman and yet California has been subject to one of the longest and most severe lockdowns yeah?
@Bones I haven't seen that before. Looks sweet. Though while I hear you on the ability to make calls when in trouble, I really dislike the idea of being able to receive them when exercising.
@Bones said in Fit at 40.:
Racked up another 3 and a bit after the morning run the other day, then did the same yesterday to test out the new watch. So close to 8km both days. Definitely getting quicker and hills aren't as gruelling.
Think the best bit is no stopping and I haven't used an inhaler while running in at least over a month - don't even bother taking it with me if it's less than 5km. A nice freedom.
What watch did you get?
Watched Lance. I find it and him riveting. It's also great gearing so many of the other riders being open and honest.
He was a prick no doubt, but he sure is charismatic. Lots of traits shared by MJ (e.g. inventing personal battles with people to get himself fired up), doping (hopefully) aside.
Can't wait for the final episode.
@Bones said in Covid-19 and keeping fit:
@Crazy-Horse don't you try and take my title.
Piss off Bones, you know you're not hopeless. You're just mediocre. And don't you ever let anyone tell you different.
@Stargazer are the proposed tweaks just for the Covid period? Otherwise #1 and #3 seem to really finish the scrum as a weapon?
3km cruise with my 7yr old then 6.7kms alone afterwards at 4.39 pace before the calf tightened up. Gutted as I was absolutely loving it today, one of those rare days when you're totally into it and it's not a chore at all
@mariner4life said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@voodoo said in Re: Movie review thread...:
Draft Day
is that good?
I love it. It's a little bit absurd, but it's good fun. I've watched it all the way through a bunch of times, will always watch it if I stumble across it
Also love 100Ft Journey in the cooking movie genre
@nzzp said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@voodoo said in Re: Movie review thread...:
I've only heard of Das Boot and Raging Bull. So not #1, #2 and #5
Das Boot is amazing. Well worth a watch.
In terms of a review, watched Chef with Jon Favreau last night (2014). Solid entertainment, quite enjoyable. Hit the right notes, some decent casting, well worth a watch for light entertainment. The food is soft core porn at times; got hungry watching.
Four Cubanos out of five chef's knives
I've seen Chef at least 10x. Love it. Almost made me go and buy some corn starch for my balls...
@Machpants said in Re: Movie review thread...:
Not so much heathen as philistine!
Admittedly I don't expect people to know the two Indian language movies in 5 and 6! Never heard of them either
I'll wear it. Though IMO any "mens" movie list that doesn't include Draft Day or the Replacements doesn't stack up...
@antipodean said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@voodoo said in Re: Movie review thread...:
On closer look, I've seen 4 (maybe 5) of the "mens" movies. But that well lags my chick flick count, and I've even never seen a Harry Potter movie.
I haven't even heard of 3 of the top 5 men's ones
You haven't heard of Das Boot?
I've only heard of Das Boot and Raging Bull. So not #1, #2 and #5
I am a movie heathen
Edit, I've also never heard of #6, #9 and #10.
On closer look, I've seen 4 (maybe 5) of the "mens" movies. But that well lags my chick flick count, and I've even never seen a Harry Potter movie.
I haven't even heard of 3 of the top 5 men's ones
@Bones said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@Tim I thought this was neat until I realised I'd seen 7 off the women list and 3 off the men list.
I'm 9 to 1 in favour of the chick flicks!!!
@Bones probably right. Though 1st impressions of Whitianga are good! Sweet little town, great beach. Quality beach hotel, heated pool, tennis court, scooters for the kids, and I can supervise all of the above from my balcony with a wine in hand . What more could you want?
So Lance is on ESPN NZ tonight at 11pm. Not sure how a "30 for 30" doco goes for 120mins, but hey.
So I'm a bottle+ deep already and still 2hrs from kick off. Luckily they're showing kobes farewell game right now to get me to the start line.
A warning, please disregard all posts I make for the next 4 hours (more than you usually would)
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I don't see the problem with including this lady's death in the numbers. Even if COVID-19 was the primary cause of her death, it was likely a contributing/secundary factor. If she hadn't had COVID, she might have lived (a bit) longer, even at her age.
Oh come on! She recovered and tested negative twice! You might as well chalk her death up to the chicken pox she had as a 5yr old or the head cold she got when working in the seafood markets as a 30yr old.
I have a 74yr old mother with lung cancer and months to live. If she got Covid now, it would likely be lethal, and of course would be recorded as a Covid death. But even then, I still wouldn't say she died of Covid, she is dying of bloody lung cancer!!!
Its absurd to consider this recovered case as a Covid death if we want to use the figures for any useful analysis of the virus.
@Bones said in Re: Movie review thread...:
@voodoo said in Re: Movie review thread...:
Jim Carrey in Eternal Spotlight was a revelation for me.
Have you seen Man on the Moon? Fucken cracking movie, Jim nails it.
Ah yes, also great
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo er, I did quantify my statement in the next line saying it was a stretch...
I know, I know, sorry! Wasn't a dig, just having a laugh 
@Snowy ugghh, sounds average. We are now booked for 4 weeks in Wanaka/QT from late June, fingers crossed for more snow and less restrictions
Jim Carrey in Eternal Spotlight was a revelation for me.
@Machpants said in Phone suggestions:
I've got a pixel 3a it fucking rocks. The only thing I wish was that it was water proof.
I have a S10, but next phone will be a Pixel I reckon
How annoying is the water resistance factor? Like, are you afraid to check your phone in a drizzle? Or are you looking to do more extreme things with it?
