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    All Blacks v France 2
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    I’m happy with those backs. I wanted injury-only changes, and we mostly got that, QT falling out aside.

    I’m happy for Proctor to get another run, and I’m pleased to see Clarke back. There is a bit of a concern that neither of our wingers are particularly elusive now, they both tend to pick out a defender and run straight at him - but at least they are speedy and CC can provide some aerial ability.

    Hopefully BB kicks a bit more accurately (this seems a slightly better chance than hoping that he actually kicks less), and hopefully we don’t need to bring DMac on until 50mins or so, so there are some tied legs to run at.


  • All Blacks v France 2
  • voodooV voodoo

    Positive thought - we are always better (marginally?) in T2 of the year

    Negative thought - if George’s back row oil is on the money, it suggests coaches are keep to shake things up and take away whatever continuity we might have

    Personally I’d have gone for minimal changes to the starting 15, only those injury forced.

    Proctor gets another shot, straight swap of Reece for whoever you guys reckon had the Super form (Narawa?). Rieko stays on the wing.

    I can even live with BB staying at 10 and DMac on the bench.

    But not doesn’t sound like it’ll be anything like this


  • Memes/Tweets (No politics)
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    @MiketheSnow 🙈


  • All Blacks v France I
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    On the forwards, I can’t believe we are bagging Holland for not being a dynamic runner just yet. Bloody hell, give the guy a break. Certainly not his core role, his job is to clean up the rucks after Ardie and CWL get stopped in their tracks and Kirifi gets smashed backwards…


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v France I:

    @Mauss said in All Blacks v France I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks v France I:

    He has the tools but I don't think its in his nature. It's difficult to teach an old dog new tricks and I feel that at 31 that's his instinct.

    The carry stats are wrong and where I think we struggled in the game. The highlighted should not be carrying that much considering their roles.

    Top Carries

    18 Ardie Savea
    17 Damian Mckenzie
    15 Will Jordan
    14 Beauden Barrett
    13 Fabian Holland

    I do think Savea could be a good openside option, especially within Robertson’s system, which seems to be based around ball-movement, constantly shifting the point of attack and getting in behind the opposition defence. Due to the sheer dynamism of the attack – 259 passes, 9 offloads, 182 ball carries, 425 post-contact metres, 13 line-breaks against France – I think it’s very difficult for a classical openside to consistently stay close to the source without being exhausted after 10 minutes.

    So what’s important for an openside in this system is game understanding, the ability to cut corners around the field and anticipate what’s going to happen. And I do think someone like Savea has an uncanny ability to see certain plays unfold before they’ve occurred, whether it’s a line-break or an opposition player becoming isolated. So I’d like to see him given an extended run in the jersey, and see whether he can adapt to the requirements.

    But what Robertson does need to be mindful of, I think, in the upcoming tests is to have enough “fresh” carrying options on the field at all times. In the France game, Lio-Willie spent the opening 10 minutes of the 2nd half mostly just tackling and cleaning, which meant that Savea did most of the hard carries through the middle on his own. If Robertson goes to his bench earlier – bringing on Taukei’aho and Norris, for example, at halftime – then I think it would’ve been easier for Savea to share the carrying load and maintain his own energy levels.

    The attack seemed quite different to me in this game vs last year. Jordie Barrett probably made as many passes in that game as he did in the whole of last season, and was frequently at first receiver too - this I really liked, especially with McKenzie on the field too - it's got to be hard to defend against. I don't like the Barbarians style 'score off every play' mindset though. Other teams will knuckle down when they've got inside the 22, apply pressure and more often that not get a penalty advantage and continue applying pressure until there's a card. We either score immediately or throw (kick) it away.

    Totally agree with this. Gone are the days where we can win games by 30 points with 40% possession. This bizarre need to score immediately, to lack the patience to run multiple phases (read: 15+ sometimes), it’s quite bewildering. It seems if we don’t go forward for 2 phases on a row, we feel the need to try something new - an unnecessary pass , a grubber, a cross-kick, or to launch a shitty bomb or box kick that effectively says to the opposition “here, you have a go now”.

    We can’t we understand that it’s ok to reset, to control the ball and force the defense to make 20 tackles in the space of a few minutes, proving but playing smart?

    It’s the same strange tactics that never sees us making long exits anymore. I know BB doesn’t have the range so some of that is ability. But DMac and Jordie can both kick long but rarely seem to. It seems so rare that we see an exit from our 22 get even close to halfway anymore.


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @Duluth said in All Blacks v France I:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France I:

    Can someone explain to me why, when we get penalty advantage, we try some low percentage bullshit the very first phase, more often than not immediately turning it over. We do this despite the very firm knowledge the ref will give you 15 free phases if you want them.

    In recent years I believe the chances of scoring from long phases has gotten lower. You score in the first three or the defence gets too set. It may even be lower than the speculative kick.

    The chances of scoring from a lineout drive or not long after are high. Might as well roll the dice and then just get to the lineout

    First 3 being the key here though, doesn’t have to be first 1! I’d still much rather we showed a bit of patience and used the (IMO stupid) advantage laws to maximum advantage. Attack with some abandon sure, but no need to take a 3% play on the first phase


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France I:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France I:

    For the same reason as savea i reckon I'm close to done with DMac.

    I can understand the allure, when it goes right it goes very right, but is it balanced out by the untold errors and created pressure?

    What didn't you like about McKenzie in this match? Think his only mistake was the attempted grubber (which didn't go too badly in the end, but was still the wrong call).

    I think Barrett played well enough at 10 to justify him starting again in the second Test, but McKenzie has been the better performer in the black jersey for the past year, and the better performer in Super Rugby. Barrett was selected ahead of McKenzie for his more sensible decisions around kicking and I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't actually bring that skill to the arena.

    I think the intercept was the other one that was poor - but aside from that, I agree he was pretty good. Brave as hell, some lovely jinks in limited space

    I for one was secretly pleased to see Reece leaving the field and DMac coming on (though I never like to see a bloke hurt). Much better back 3 for mine.


  • Rugby or NFL
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    @nzzp said in Rugby or NFL:

    @zedsdeadbaby said in Rugby or NFL:

    I’d honestly look to get rid of the TMO other than for groundings or in touch in goal.

    That's where it started. I think it's great to go back, but you have to be prepared to accept missed howlers. And politically that won't happen I suspect.

    As a start, the TMO should only look at things when asked to by the ref. Not be scouting and hunting for things on their own.

    If you went further, you could keep the TMO but only use them for [2] captains challenges per game

    Or they could be ditched altogether.


  • Rugby or NFL
  • voodooV voodoo

    I can understand the need to “get every call right” - it’s an admirable aim. But it’s not realistic. Instead we have to live with some ambiguity, some level of refs missing stuff, all for the betterment of the product,

    Otherwise we will soon have a chip in the ball tracked by Starlink to calculate the exact trajectory of the ball from the hand of the passing player moving forward, we wil have every player rigged up with sensors to see when the ball detaches from their hand or when they manage to get a knee to the ground in a tackle…

    Where does it end?

    I can’t watch an NBA game live anymore unless I’m with 5 mates drinking beers and eating hundreds of wings. It’s too long and painful.

    I fear rugby is on its way there.


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    Ace of Base


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    There was no contact

    You might want to double check who's talking nonsense.

    Have checked

    It’s not me

    But thanks for asking

    I checked out of reading the rest as you started with a blatant lie. Are you really saying Tosi didn't make contact? It makes anything else you try to say, redundant.

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    There was no contact

    You might want to double check who's talking nonsense.

    Have checked

    It’s not me

    But thanks for asking

    I checked out of reading the rest as you started with a blatant lie. Are you really saying Tosi didn't make contact? It makes anything else you try to say, redundant.

    I said innocuous originally. No material contact. Nothing that impeded him sufficiently to change the play. As Antipodean said, it didn’t even change their coverage

    But I’ve been on this forum long enough to know the futility of arguing with you so I’ll leave it at that


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v France I:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    I thought the obstruction call was much clearer than the knock on by proctor

    Get outta here. I’m with @antipodean here

    Innocuous contact on a player that had no chance to make a tackle. Worst thing about it is that it encourages all defenders to just take a dive in similar situations. Just ludicrous.

    The TMO should be forced to watch the last 10 years of Ireland tests

    Nah, if that French guy could run into the line he at least marks Beauden, meaning the next guy can slide. Maybe it doesn't stop the try, but the defence has been impeded.
    It isn't consistently enforced unfortunately.

    The defender outside of the "impeded" one stayed on his man. France were just outnumbered and got done.

    💯


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    There was no contact

    You might want to double check who's talking nonsense.

    Have checked

    It’s not me

    But thanks for asking


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    @Duluth said in All Blacks v France I:

    If BB was over ruling the coaches he wouldn’t be starting so often. As @reprobate said it seems clear it’s the ABs game plan. If you don’t like the tactics blame Robertson

    Don’t completely disagree. But I also wonder if the coaches don’t think BB can play another way, but they still feel he’s the best option. Which would be pretty disappointing too


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @reprobate said in All Blacks v France I:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks v France I:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    I thought the obstruction call was much clearer than the knock on by proctor

    Get outta here. I’m with @antipodean here

    Innocuous contact on a player that had no chance to make a tackle. Worst thing about it is that it encourages all defenders to just take a dive in similar situations. Just ludicrous.

    The TMO should be forced to watch the last 10 years of Ireland tests

    Nah, if that French guy could run into the line he at least marks Beauden, meaning the next guy can slide. Maybe it doesn't stop the try, but the defence has been impeded.
    It isn't consistently enforced unfortunately.

    Sorry but that’s nonsense. There was no contact and you’re making a massive leap to suggest “he might have got there if he ran the right angle to the right spot with the right pace to enable his teammate to do something else”

    The lack of contact was stark, and as I said, you’re now just going to see defenders not try to make the effort. Why would you when you can take (or wait for) a tiny bit of contact then go down in a screaming heap?

    Obstruction should be clear and obvious

    This was definitely not


  • All Blacks v France I
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    @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

    I thought the obstruction call was much clearer than the knock on by proctor

    Get outta here. I’m with @antipodean here

    Innocuous contact on a player that had no chance to make a tackle. Worst thing about it is that it encourages all defenders to just take a dive in similar situations. Just ludicrous.

    The TMO should be forced to watch the last 10 years of Ireland tests


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    I love the way everyone is complaining about our ineffective and poorly executed kicking game - short kicks, rubbers, misplaced bombs - like it’s anything new. How could we possibly expect anything new from the same guy that has given us this tripe for years? It’s literally BB’s identity these days


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    I’m going to need to juggle this game while on a boat from Albania to Corfu.

    Man life is complicated sometimes


  • All Blacks v France I
  • voodooV voodoo

    @pakman said in All Blacks v France I:

    The Rieko I want to see tomorrow:

    We’re looking for 2015 Beauden, so 2017 Rieko doesn’t seem too much to ask for


  • My Turn ... Running Down A Dream
  • voodooV voodoo

    @MajorRage gotta say. I was a bit confused when I saw this thread at the top of the Unread topic list, then I saw @African-Monkey ’s post 🤪

    May as well make it a communal thread now!

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