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@gollum said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
Whatever you think of the pussy grabber, she's rotten to the core.
Please, Trump has been sued (and lost) on any number of things as bad as that list.
You're either taking the piss or didn't bother watching the video.
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@antipodean tin foil hat fell down over eyes?
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@antipodean said in US Election Thread 2016:
@gollum said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
Whatever you think of the pussy grabber, she's rotten to the core.
Please, Trump has been sued (and lost) on any number of things as bad as that list.
You're either taking the piss or didn't bother watching the video.
I'd wager the second option.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
.. as for the rest of your post, sorry i haven't bothered reading it as I assume is just more sneering twaddle.
That pretty much sums up & your - and a lot of Trump's supporters, attitude to debate or understanding an issue. Whether the bit you can't be bothered reading is a post, article, speech or scientific paper.
Its the world of climate change denail, anti vax, pro life, anti immigration, the CIA did 9/11 etc. Don't read anything that might conflict with your locked in views.
I honestly wonder why you bother with this thread as you only ever either tell people they are idiots or that you haven't read their post because they are idiots. Hydro has gone out of his way to clearly state his position in a staggerinly inffensive way & you've just shouted "Say I'm right!!" 10 times at him
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Cool... Hilary is like Princess Leia now .... what a hilarious meme.. they made Trump to be like Jabba!
Brilliant.
Just one question though.. following this genius star wars analogy.. who is the rebel alliance that Hilary is feeding information to?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
Cool... Hilary is like Princess Leia now .... what a hilarious meme.. they made Trump to be like Jabba!
Brilliant.
Just one question though.. following this genius star wars analogy.. who is the rebel alliance that Hilary is feeding information to?
At least you made it to the end of an entire post
On a serious note, I thought this from the Economist was interesting. The GOP are already looking ahead to a better-packaged version of Trump's populism for 2020 in the form of a 39-yo Harvard-lawyer McKinsey-consultant junior senator who also toured Iraq/Afghan after 9/11, Tom Cotton:
Lexington
Growing Cotton in IowaAn ambitious young senator offers a revealing glimpse of a post-Trump Republican Party
Oct 15th 2016 | From the print editionAS THE election of 2016 lurches to an unmourned end, it feels cruel to report that the presidential race of 2020 is already under way. This haste makes sense, at least on the Republican side. If voters on November 8th consign Donald Trump to a life of brooding defeat, filled with cable TV interviews, restless travel and insomniac tweeting, he will leave a party primed for civil strife. For a tough dilemma confronts Republicans. Full-blown Trumpismâa retro creed that blends America First nationalism, paranoia worthy of Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace-style nativism and Hugh Hefner-ish lecheryâis a recipe for losing a national election. Yet without those voters who hear and see a champion in Mr Trump, Republicans will struggle to win most other elections, whether to Congress or at state level.
Mr Trump has revealed that, for many, conservatism is as much an identity as a set of principles. Mr Trump could not care less about shrink-the-government orthodoxy. He blithely opposes moves to reform federal aid for the old, despite its spiralling costs. He promises such expensive schemes as a federal deportation force targeting âcriminal aliensâ. Mr Trump doubts that American leadership is needed to keep the world safe, questions alliances like NATO, denounces George W. Bush for invading Iraq and praises Russiaâs autocratic president, Vladimir Putin. His threat to slap tariffs on Chinese or Mexican imports mocks Republican leaders who back free trade.
On October 8th Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas, a 39-year-old star of the doctrinaire right, arrived in Iowa for a four-day visit. In theory, Mr Cotton was in Iowa to campaign for Republicans who, unlike him, are up for re-election this year. But politicians do not visit Iowa by accident. Its caucuses are the first winnowing contest of the presidential primary season. Those with White House ambitions must spend months wooing the stateâs farmers at county fairs, and its evangelical Christians at church pancake breakfasts. While in Iowa Mr Cotton addressed two party fundraising dinners whose previous speakers include most major Republican presidential candidates of the past decade.
On paper, Mr Cotton is an unlikely figure to reconcile Mr Trumpâs burn-it-all-down followers with conventional conservatives. The son of a cattle farmer, he is a beakily intense six-foot-five-inch Harvard law graduate and former McKinsey consultant, who enlisted in the army in 2004 and served as an infantry officer in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was elected to the Senate in 2014, after a brief stint in the House of Representatives, with the help of two distinct bands of admirers. First, anti-government groups such as the Club for Growth, who hail his willingness to vote against disaster-relief funds or food stamps (Mr Cotton talked of recipients with new cars and âsteak in their basketsâ). Second, foreign-policy hawks, who cheered when, two months after entering the Senate, he wrote to Iranâs leaders, warning them that any nuclear agreement they struck with President Barack Obama might be overturned by Congressâa letter that made Senate veterans wince, though 46 other senators eventually signed it.
Mr Cotton is a hardliner on law and order, too. This year he helped block a bipartisan criminal-justice bill that would give judges more flexibility when sentencing, among other reforms meant to address decades of soaring jail populations (America, with less than 5% of the worldâs population, accounts for almost 25% of the worldâs prisoners). Mr Cotton argued in May that because most crimes go unpunished, âif anything, we have an under-incarceration problemâ.
Interviewed before addressing the Reagan dinner of the Iowa Republican Party in Des Moines, the senator played down differences between his interventionist views, Mr Trumpâs scorn for nation-building and public opinion. Detached from its roots in 1940s pacifism, the slogan America First âmakes a lot of senseâ to voters, Mr Cotton says. He thinks Mr Trump is wrong to question the wisdom of overthrowing Saddam Hussein, arguing that the Iraq war made Americans safer, and so put America first. Chiding the Bush administration for years of drift before the Iraq troop surge of 2007, and accusing Mr Obama of allowing the rise of Islamic State, Mr Cotton says the American people are not fundamentally anti-war, just âfundamentally opposed to losing wars.â
If Harvard did populism
Elections turn on many issues, he goes on, but the one issue on which Mr Trump differed from almost every Republican he beat in the 2016 primary was immigration. Mr Cotton supports Mr Trump and is sure that a key to navigating an era of âpopulist insurgenciesâ, from Britain to continental Europe and America, lies in acknowledging the âreasonable, legitimate concernsâ of working families about low-skilled migration and its effects on society and on wagesâeven if a âtransnational cosmopolitan eliteâ is left unscathed by them.Addressing the party faithful, moments later, Mr Cotton presented himself as a member of the generation moved by the patriotic spirit that America showed after the September 2001 terror attacks, leaving civilian careers to join the army and learn a âwarrior ethosâ. He combines that pitch with Trumpian vows to secure the border and reject a ânew normalâ that, he says, sees riots on the streets and âcops assassinated on the beatâ, while sneering liberal elites âlive behind high walls with armed guardsâ.
After the speech Jeff Kauffman, chairman of the Iowa Republican Party, reported praise from the party faithful for Mr Cottonâs âfreshnessâ. The challenge for his party, whatever the result in November, is to keep the new voters brought in by Mr Trump and to capture his populism, âbut package it so it is more mainstreamâ, Mr Kauffman says. Between now and 2020, expect to hear more about Tom Cottonâand about other, rival Republicans with schemes to make American populism mainstream again. Even in defeat, Mr Trump will shape the partyâs future.
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Looks a neo-con free trade advocate to me.
Of course the corrupt Republican establishment will love him. (fuck poor people and lets have more wars)The world has changed and Trump voters have woken up to the treachery of their own party.
All in all a condescending article written by someone who thinks Trump voters are stupid and don't know what they want. They will not come meekly back into the fold if Trump loses.
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Interesting all these women coming out now claiming Trump touched them and so on....
I wonder what Trump thought of Bill Cosby?
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@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
The Wikileaks revelations are basically being blacked-out while the Trump allegations get maximum airtime.
Or, as Wikileaks noted, the lighter leaks are given airtime while the more serious ones are ignored.
Sick.I'm guessing most people hear the name Wikileaks and switch off, a group of scumbags run by an "alleged" sex offender supporting the campaign of pussy grabbing Trump is hardly going to gain much traction .
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@jegga I think you are right. Trump is living by the sword of public distrust .. so he is suffering form it also.
People simply dont believe the media, and they dont believe wikileaks much either.
I think hacked emails for political gain are rat shit. I am not going to change that stance. Privacy is privacy unless something illegal is happening.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback I can only like that once unfortunately . I remember reading how Assange had to be talked out of leaking the names of the interpreters who worked for the US in Afghanistan . His attitude was basically "they worked for the US, they deserve it"
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@jegga said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback I can only like that once unfortunately . I remember reading how Assange had to be talked out of leaking the names of the interpreters who worked for the US in Afghanistan . His attitude was basically "they worked for the US, they deserve it"
Jeez, that sort of attitude definitely deserves a drone strike!
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@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
Looks a neo-con free trade advocate to me.
Of course the corrupt Republican establishment will love him. (fuck poor people and lets have more wars)The world has changed and Trump voters have woken up to the treachery of their own party.
All in all a condescending article written by someone who thinks Trump voters are stupid and don't know what they want. They will not come meekly back into the fold if Trump loses.
Do you see being a free trade advocate as a bad thing?
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