TCs Debbie & Cook
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It's unaustrayan @mariner4life
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So now the solid rain comes to Brisbane.
This is Kedron Brook, four hours apart. It's already flooded in the first photo:
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You blokes down south just aren't cut out for rain aye. I looked at the radar expecting to see huge swathes of orange and red, and instead it's all blue and green?
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@mariner4life said in TC Debbie:
You blokes down south just aren't cut out for rain aye. I looked at the radar expecting to see huge swathes of orange and red, and instead it's all blue and green?
Brisbane is ridiculous. Without Wivenhoe Dam, God knows what would happen to the city every time something like this occurred. The fact that the old Queenslanders are all built on stilts gives a good indication of what it must have been like back in the day. A mate of mine lives near Suncorp Stadium and he's been flooded 3 times in the last year. Fark that.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel and it's the Far North Queenslanders who get pumped by the insurance companies....
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Just blown through here.
Good excuse for an afternoon off but jeez the weather has been worse.
Heavyish the last half hour or so but someone turned off the tap.
May be worserer further south.
Now have a waterfront property ... admiring our water views in the backyard with a quiet red.
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@mariner4life said in TC Debbie:
@Rancid-Schnitzel and it's the Far North Queenslanders who get pumped by the insurance companies....
When my parents moved here, they didn't want to be anywhere near the river or possible flood zone and bought a house right at the top of a steep hill. Now maybe they missed out on the boom in riverfront but they've avoided being underwater at least twice and don't pack shit every time it rains. I did the same (not that I could afford to live on the river). Fucks me why people want to put themselves in that situation. Lifestyle my arse.
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Amazing how quickly you can forget about NQ when the south east starts to get affected. Top work 7 and 9 #disasterporn
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so this bitch has caused some carnage in NZ too...we got off pretty lightly in Whangarei area, we had about 80mm of rain in total at our place (60mm in one 24hr period) plenty of new lakes when I went to Kerikeri this morning and then below Edgecumbe evacuated, Kaikoura cut off again
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91174483/live-cyclone-debbie-remnants-hit-nz
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Yeah destructive bitch.
Enzed just isn't built for rain of that magnitude.
Always worry about Mum in Kaitaia when big rain is forecast up North. Just about couldn't have located a town in a more awkward location if they tried: "hmmm ... where is the narrowest part of the valley downstream of a rather large catchment?
That'll do! We'll make this the main street ... ". Admittedly they must have got the stopbanks and diversion drains right as they've been lucky for a few decades.Been thinking about all our NZ peeps and hoping everyobe is safe and dry. Brother is in Rotorua ... well he's in Honkers at the mo but the family is there and I see it got smashed pretty hard.
Did I read someone say Edgecumbe had a 1 in 500 year event? (Pedant alert: more correctly it should be referred to as an event with a 0.2% Annual Exceedence Probability (AEP), otherwise people will think they won't get another like it for 500 years ... I recall Southland getting two 1 in 100 year floods in a fortnight back in the early 80s. Confused and annoyed many.)
Coincidentally - back to my first world problems. Came through Rocky today. Pretty much coincident with the flood peak. Quite amazing. If you haven't followed the news a couple of the tributaries of the Fitzroy River - which drains the second biggest catchment in Australia (after the Murray-Darling system - the difference being the Fitzroy gets rain) had some water fall in them. Flood has taken a week to get downstream. At one stage on Sunday they were predicting the biggest flood in Rockhampton in 60 years. That's quite significant as they tend to flood every two years (we've been in Qld 10 years and I'm pretty sure they've had 5 floods in that time. Also refer comment above about inconveniently located population centres).
After 2011 they spent $130million building an elevated Highway across the floodplain south of the town. It was like crossing an inland sea. Astonishing.
The holiday is a bit dampened. The snorkling, glass bottom boat, boom netting planned for Saturday in the crystal clear blue sparkling waters of Great Keppel Island has been throttled back. Water is a tad murky. Nice shade of chocolate milk... do won't be able to spot the bull sharks and crocodiles feasting on the carcasses of the cattle washed downstream...
But hey we're here injecting revenue into the flood damaged economy ... thank us later ... and the view from the clifftop apartment over the wine glass remains spectacular, if a little windblown and brown.
Hope the rest of youse all are safe.
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Pity it didn't rain in Queensland instead...
By drought I think she means underwater...
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@taniwharugby said in TC Debbie:
@booboo the rains we had 2 weeks back were described in affected areas as a 1 in 100 year event, then this week....
yeah, you have to be a bit careful.
Rainfall is particularly nasty, as the hydrologists and stormwater people design for both intense rain and longer rain. So 1 in 100 years could be true for a 30 minute rainfall, but not do much damage. In other places, taht could overwhelm drains and cause flash flooding.
But then you can have 1 in 100 year rain over 6 hours, and with a lower intensity may do less damage.
My stance is don't expect media to report anything with any nuance or accuracy. They are actively anti science and not interested in complicated explanations. As Ben Goldacre keeps saying:
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that
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@nzzp until I had water tanks to collect my household water, I never took much interest, but it is quite scary to think how good the drainage systems of towns are for the most part to deal with the volume of water from rain.
Off my roof, 1mm of rain equates to about 270L, which means the 100m stretch of road, not including footpaths is gonna collect about 700L of water, add in the buildings either side, the footpaths etc, that say, acre area is now having to deal with about 4000L of water, from 1mm of rain...then you have storms that throw down 30mm in 30mins....
Worse still, most of the surfaces are not going to absorb a portion of the water like a paddock type area, so then you start looking at all the other areas around and how much water must need to be re-directed, somewhere...
I heard on the TV this morning, Edgecumbe suffered a major quake in the late 80s? Which is why they had issues with needing to build stop banks?
I guess man has been trying to divert water for thousands of year, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
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@MajorRage said in TC Debbie:
Edgecumbe
That's a bit shit for them. As I used to say about Windsor in the 1990s; live on a flood plain, buy a boat...
Another reason if I had to live in the Netherlands, I'd live in Limburg.
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@MajorRage said in TC Debbie:
Thoughts and prayers with those in Edgecumbe
#EdgecumbeLivesMatter
#PrayForEdgecumbeYou can rest easy tonight knowing you've done your bit for the people of Edgecumbe.
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@No-Quarter I've already changed my Facebook profile pick to a WINZ logo in support
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@mariner4life liar....just jumping on the bandwagon, low bro, low!
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So, now TC Cook is having a crack at NZ, and coming with a huge rep of looking at throwing some of the worst shit at NZ since the Wahine...
Majority of country already water logged, which I expect will make it worse by putting more water through already overloaded infrastructure.
Cyclone Cook is now within 500km of Cape Reinga at 8pm. Winds are expected to pick up overnight. Cook is expected to pass Northland to the east between 10am and 2pm Thursday.