March for Men Australia
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@rancid-schnitzel That's fucked. Shit situation for everyone alright. That's the kind of thing that will break a man, the cost of 2 years in court only to lose because he has been supporting his family and in society's eyes has the 'wrong' genitalia to be a parent. Of course a reverse result wouldn't be any better either. I wonder if because the daughter wasn't yet school age might have removed any potential weighting for not disrupting their lives.
Just watched this brief Ted Talk by Cassie Jaye on her look into the Mens Rights Movement.
She describes well the difference between hearing people speak and listening to them. I go on about journalists being some of the worst sort of people on the planet but this describes them well, just so blinded by bias they lose a sense of logic and appear to be totally unaware of it.8
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@rembrandt said in March for Men Australia:
@rancid-schnitzel That's fucked. Shit situation for everyone alright. That's the kind of thing that will break a man, the cost of 2 years in court only to lose because he has been supporting his family and in society's eyes has the 'wrong' genitalia to be a parent. Of course a reverse result wouldn't be any better either. I wonder if because the daughter wasn't yet school age might have removed any potential weighting for not disrupting their lives.
Just watched this brief Ted Talk by Cassie Jaye on her look into the Mens Rights Movement.
She describes well the difference between hearing people speak and listening to them. I go on about journalists being some of the worst sort of people on the planet but this describes them well, just so blinded by bias they lose a sense of logic and appear to be totally unaware of it.8
The two things that struck me were (a) she was never going to lose that case because she was the mother, and (b) the ex's lawyer bullshitted him into believing he was actually going to win.
The shit that goes on during these trials is also shocking. The lawyers dig into your past and try and question your moral character, fitness as a parent etc. I guess the moral of the story is to try harder to make it work. So many couples with young children breaking up these days. I know from personal experience how hard that period is (and we are talking years of exhaustion and very little intimacy) but it seems so many prefer to pull the pin rather than fight for it. Obviously that's easy to say when you don't know the details, but I've been shocked by what now appears to be some kind of epidemic.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel I agree. I was watching a Nigel Latta programme on the human mind last night and they talked about the three stages of love - lust, passionate love, then attachment. The first two operate on dopamine, and I wonder if the way our society today is more geared towards temporary happiness over long term meaning, once the first two are over people just get bored and pull the pin seeking that dopamine hit again.
The kids always lose in that situation, even if the parents are amicable to each other. Sad to see it becoming more commonplace.
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q@no-quarter said in March for Men Australia:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I agree. I was watching a Nigel Latta programme on the human mind last night and they talked about the three stages of love - lust, passionate love, then attachment. The first two operate on dopamine, and I wonder if the way our society today is more geared towards temporary happiness over long term meaning, once the first two are over people just get bored and pull the pin seeking that dopamine hit again.
The kids always lose in that situation, even if the parents are amicable to each other. Sad to see it becoming more commonplace.
I think that hits the nail on the head. The explanation I keep hearing is that the husband feels left out or resents playing second fiddle. What do you farking expect? Your wife is feeding and taking care of a tiny human who requires 24 hour monitoring for the first few years. Doesn't help when wife is back at work within a year. If you put your own needs first in that situation then you shouldn't have kids in the first place.
That isn't of course to say that some women don't make ridiculous demands on their husbands when they're working full time and they're at home.