30 Day Paleo Challenge
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<p>Holy fuckarola, hit the wall ONE DAY IN. Got to be the embodiment of "hangry" (Hungry and Angry) on Sunday. I came right in the evening, had to up my portion sizes and add an extra meal, and then I felt normal.</p>
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<p>So far have not cheated, have hit all my points that they are tracking on the challenge. Lost a 1kg in one weekend as well :)</p>
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<p>I was avoiding fruit, but I've added back in Bananas and Melon to have 40mins before a workout. Going to be interesting to see how tonight's WOD goes, I see lots of people struggle with exercise int he first week.</p> -
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<p>hang in there bud. First few days of change are often the hardest</p>
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<p>Thanks, the trick so far has been to up the portion sizes. The advice so far has been if you are hungry, eat something (from the good list) and that should settle down. It's a big difference from the calorie restriction I've just been on, which just didn't work for - mainly because of the poor food choices I was making.</p>
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<p><strong>Holy fuckarola, hit the wall ONE DAY IN. Got to be the embodiment of "hangry" (Hungry and Angry) on Sunday. </strong>I came right in the evening, had to up my portion sizes and add an extra meal, and then I felt normal.</p>
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<p>So far have not cheated, have hit all my points that they are tracking on the challenge. Lost a 1kg in one weekend as well :)</p>
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<p>I was avoiding fruit, but I've added back in Bananas and Melon to have 40mins before a workout. Going to be interesting to see how tonight's WOD goes, I see lots of people struggle with exercise int he first week.</p>
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<p>I know how you feel ... at the moment I'm dreaming about frakken bread and, at the most in the past I'd have only maybe two slices a day. </p> -
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<p>I know how you feel ... at the moment I'm dreaming about frakken bread and, at the most in the past I'd have only maybe two slices a day. </p>
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<p>Yeah, even after this challenge I'm not eating bread again. Love it, but it's just crap.</p> -
<p>Nice one Kirwan!</p>
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<p>I would have 2 bits max per week and that is in the weekend where I may be too lazy to have my oats so have a couple of bits of vogels.</p>
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<p>That hardest bit about bread is with burgers. Lettuce for buns is OK and big portobello mushrooms also make good buns but still the winner for me is using chicken breast as the bun.....double down style but salad in the middle rather than crap.</p> -
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<p>Have signed up for this at the new gym, figured the team environment with stop me from giving up early.</p>
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<p>Have been tracking calories for the past 50 days<strong>, using MyFItnessPa</strong>l, and while that has lost me 2.6kg, the quality of the food hasn't been great and I've not lost as much as I should have. Currently just under 83kg. So instead of killing myself in the gym and ignoring the 70% part of the diet, I'm going to make a shift to a healthier diet. The Paelo challenge is a kick start to more veges, meat and variety in what I eat.</p>
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<p>So if anybody has suggestions for meals that someone useless in the kitchen can whip up, and a Paelo friendly please suggest away. I know a few of you have some talent in this area.</p>
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<p>Should be interesting to see what the body looks like after this radical a diet change. Starts on the 1st, also have a benchmark WOD to compare the result with at the end of Feb. Will post that result here too.</p>
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<p>I've just signed up for My FitnessPal - it could become a handy food diary for me. One thing in my goals it's geared towards 50% carbohydrates - is that changeable?</p> -
<p>I love fruit too much, especially with all the great fruits about at the moment; peaches, nectarines, plums, grapes!</p>
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<p>I love fruit too much, especially with all the great fruits about at the moment; peaches, nectarines, plums, grapes!</p>
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<p>Despite being from HB I can take or leave fruit ... I'm all about the processed sugar.</p>
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<p>I've just signed up for My FitnessPal - it could become a handy food diary for me. One thing in my goals it's geared towards 50% carbohydrates - is that changeable?</p>
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<p>Yep, under settings and Goals. I had changed mine to the zone-ish 40% Carbs, 30% Protein and 30% Fats.</p>
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<p>I found the app good for getting rid of snacks, but to be honest it was massive chore (I logged everything I ate for 50 days). If you like stats though, it's interesting and they make as easy as possible to log your food. The bar code scanner was great.</p> -
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<p>Yep, under settings and Goals. I had changed mine to the zone-ish 40% Carbs, 30% Protein and 30% Fats.</p>
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<p>I found the app good for getting rid of snacks, but to be honest it was massive chore (I logged everything I ate for 50 days). If you like stats though, it's interesting and they make as easy as possible to log your food. The bar code scanner was great.</p>
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<p>Cheers.</p>
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<p>I'm a pretty plain eater, I'll mostly eat the same dinner for 5 nights and a combination of 2 or 3 lunches so hopefully I can just save those settings. I find it quite interesting how they set you a calorie limit, and then add exercise earned calories to the limit ... is that a normal way of doing it (for weight loss in general)?</p>
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<p>Cheers.</p>
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<p>I'm a pretty plain eater, I'll mostly eat the same dinner for 5 nights and a combination of 2 or 3 lunches so hopefully I can just save those settings. I find it quite interesting how they set you a calorie limit, and then add exercise earned calories to the limit ... is that a normal way of doing it (for weight loss in general)?</p>
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<p>I'm going to need to up my weight loss weekly goal as my limits seem a bit high at the moment.</p>
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<p>They are working on the theory that you can "earn" extra calories during the day by exercising. So they set a target calorie goal to stay under (ludicrously low IMO), and you have to exercise if you want to eat more that a day. </p>
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<p>It's a guide more than anything, because you can't really accurately tell how many calories are in what you eat or how much you have burned by exercise. But you can approximate it and use it as structure for your eating.</p>
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<p>What I did was use this site;</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/'>http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/</a></p>
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<p>to calculate my BMR, then took off 500 calories from that to set my own target in MyFitnessPal (including the macro targets of carbs/proteins & fats). It was successful for a while, and I lost weight over the holiday period instead of my normal gain, but it only got me so far.</p>
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<p>Worth a go though, the improvement in my habits from it has made the Paleo challenge way easier than if I had gone fully cold turnkey on my November diet. I would have killed my neighbours going that route.</p> -
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<p>They are working on the theory that you can "earn" extra calories during the day by exercising. So they set a target calorie goal to stay under (ludicrously low IMO), and you have to exercise if you want to eat more that a day. </p>
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<p>It's a guide more than anything, because you can't really accurately tell how many calories are in what you eat or how much you have burned by exercise. But you can approximate it and use it as structure for your eating.</p>
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<p>What I did was use this site;</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/'>http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/</a></p>
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<p>to calculate my BMR, then took off 500 calories from that to set my own target in MyFitnessPal (including the macro targets of carbs/proteins & fats). It was successful for a while, and I lost weight over the holiday period instead of my normal gain, but it only got me so far.</p>
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<p>Worth a go though, the improvement in my habits from it has made the Paleo challenge way easier than if I had gone fully cold turnkey on my November diet. I would have killed my neighbours going that route.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I think I'll use it as a guide and as a way to record what I'm eating ... so I can keep an eye on stuff.</p>
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<p>Interestingly my calorie totals from the BMR and MyFitnessPal once the 500 are taken off are relatively the same.</p>
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<p>The last time I lost a good chunk of weight I did a bunch more exercise/weights and kept eating soft lollies, it will be interesting to see the difference between less exercise (as I'm unable to do weights) as opposed to less sugar/carb intake.</p> -
<p>Used to use myfitnesspal too and still do occasionally to get details on a particular food but now I just run my own spreadsheet and track each days meals and then roll it for the next week. Very quick and easy.</p>
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<p>Just a couple of words of caution....</p>
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<p>Using +/- 500 calories for bulking/cutting is ok but you are better off doing it as a % of your caloric intake as we all have different intakes so 500 for say a small female on 1600cals vs a guy on 3500 cals has a major difference in effect. Good guideline is start with +/1 10% and then adjust in 5% ranges from there until you find your sweet spot. You may need 2 weeks at your amended caloric intake level before you start seeing the impact.</p>
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<p>Using % splits for carbs/fat/protein isn't the best approach. You are better off calculating your protein and fat needs in grams and then filling the rest of your caloric needs for carbs. This way when you adjust your caloric intake levels you just add or subtract carbs. Protein and fats should stay the same or adjust only for changes in body weight. Pretty simple way to do it. A good guideline would be 2.5 to 3 grams of protein per kg of lean body mass and 0.7 to 1.0grams of fats per kg of lean body mass. Myfitnesspal isn;t so good for this type of calc but you can work it out easy enough and then set the %s in myfitnesspal to give you pretty close to your desired numbers.</p> -
<p>I did 2 days a week <750cals, and the other days ate normally, I lost almost 3kgs in as many weeks, but I didnt really like the low cal days, wasnt that I felt lethargic or anything, I just felt hungry all the time, and the next day is probably when I felt the effects.</p>
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<p>I think calorie (or carb) cycling it dam effective for weight loss due to the effects it has on metabolism. Trying it for weight gain right now and I do not think it as quite as effective but it still make senses to me to eat less (still eat at least maintenance level) on those days I dont train and eat more on the training days when my body needs it.</p>
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<p>5 days of no carbs, and it's still killing me. I just feel hungry and tired all day. Grrr. </p>
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<p>Two things I've learnt is eating this way is way more expensive and I spend a lot more time fluffing around reading websites about eating.</p>
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<p>Any reason you aren't eating carbs from veges? It will make you feel a lot better, and less hungry.</p>
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<p>You sound the same as me, it's a big transition to eating healthily when you are used to just grabbing something from the cupboard. What I've been doing is preparing everything and chucking it tuperware in the fridge, so I can replicate just grabbing something for lunch or a snack. So once a week I clean/cut up my veges and cook some kumera and beetroot, etc. I've even been cooking a lot of my meat when I cook dinner so I can use the leftovers the next days. So there are things you can do to make it easier.</p>
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<p>It's getting easier and I have to think about it less. I'm also adding a new recipe a week (so I don't get overwhelmed, I'm not a big cook) for variety.</p>
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<p>So far I've been on this diet for four days and I've lost 2kgs. Shows you how bloating sugar and grains are huh.</p>
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<p>And the big worry I had was lack of energy for the WODs, but I've been feeling awesome and the sore muscles have pretty much gone too. Had a hard workout last night and I don't feel like I even went last night, normal I struggle to get up the stairs.</p>
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<p><strong>Any reason you aren't eating carbs from veges?</strong> It will make you feel a lot better, and less hungry.</p>
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<p>You sound the same as me, it's a big transition to eating healthily when you are used to just grabbing something from the cupboard. What I've been doing is preparing everything and chucking it tuperware in the fridge, so I can replicate just grabbing something for lunch or a snack. So once a week I clean/cut up my veges and cook some kumera and beetroot, etc. I've even been cooking a lot of my meat when I cook dinner so I can use the leftovers the next days. So there are things you can do to make it easier.</p>
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<p>It's getting easier and I have to think about it less. I'm also adding a new recipe a week (so I don't get overwhelmed, I'm not a big cook) for variety.</p>
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<p>So far I've been on this diet for four days and I've lost 2kgs. Shows you how bloating sugar and grains are huh.</p>
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<p><strong>And the big worry I had was lack of energy for the WODs</strong>, but I've been feeling awesome and the sore muscles have pretty much gone too. Had a hard workout last night and I don't feel like I even went last night, normal I struggle to get up the stairs.</p>
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<p>Think I might be fully drinking the kool aid now.</p>
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<p>Sorry, I guess I misrepresented myself, I'm getting my carbs from veges ... just not the bad (but good tasting) ones from bread and processed sugar foods. </p>
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<p>TBH, my main meal have remained the same aside from getting rid of stir fry sauces with sugar, my lunch hasn't changed too much, but my snacking and breakfast have changed heaps. Giving up the sweet foods has been easier than I thought.</p>
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<p>Breakfast is the hardest for me, I'm generally dopey in the morning and putting a couple of pieces of toast down and boiling the jug is about the effort I like to make. Now I actually have to plan what I want and what I'm doing ... not good for someone lazy!</p>
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<p>I haven't weighed myself yet, I don't have scales, and don't want to buy another set (I have all my household stuff still in Hamilton in storage) so have decided I'll weigh myself once or twice a week at my uncle's. I'm trying to keep my expectations low so that I don't get disappointed though.</p>
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<p>My big worry is my lack of energy, my normal walk tends to wipe me out now.</p>