Jacko
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@Paekakboyz said in Jacko:
@mariner4life going to bed frustrated.
pffft, everyday is prize day apparently
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@mariner4life don't worry bro, plenty of room for first place on the podium!!
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@Paekakboyz said in Jacko:
@mariner4life don't worry bro, plenty of room for first place on the podium!!
I'm a sexual athlete, i always finish first
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!
It’s my mrs Spotify
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
What radio are you listening to? Spotify man!
It’s my mrs Spotify
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Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
Well, society and the law does rate different crimes at different levels of seriousness.
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If we were to see a ban of MJ's music would that also include Jackson 5 stuff? Not like he was fiddling with kids at that age.
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@mariner4life said in Jacko:
Think it comes down to perception
A rock star ‘entertains’ a willing young teenager who’s infatuated with him vs a man who who invites young boys into his life and takes them into his bed. He does that via manipulation and grooming them
The average person might think those girls were either asking for it or happy to go along with it compared to someone who comes across as more as a predator.
Both instances are wrong of course, no doubt over the years there’s been plenty of young girls used and spat out when these guys have finished with them.SO, drug use is OK? I mean, now we're judging some crimes as worthy of being banned, while letting others slide? I dunno, as I said, it's a slippery slope.
How about all the wannabe gangsters (or the actual gangsters). Guns, crime, robbery ... let alone what the farking labels get up to with their evil contracts.
Jacko's interesting too. He's someone that you can point to the crazy upbringing and say it probably had a substantial effect on who he was. I was going to say 'as a person', but he was more alien than human at times.
Finally, what happens to legacy if the offending takes place after the creative endeavour? Someone derails after getting success due to being a musical genius ... is the music 'ok' or 'not ok as you turned into someone we don't like'.
My thoughts are all over the place, but I reckon it's pretty farked
Look whatever moral high ground I need to take to get savage garden off the air waves ( and my mrs car stereo ) I’m in .
Also Celine Dion .
And Adele .
Stop there mate. You know Adele would buy her round, she's a top bloke.
JC is a sad housewife. What's my prize?
Jealous much?
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@mariner4life said in Jacko:
My 7 year old daughter absolutely loves Whacko Jacko's music, but knows nothing about his sordid past, so question to the fern, When do I ruin her childhood?
chances are you already have
One day at a time, I will slowly break her down, to allow a full blown explosion when she reaches her teens
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10 Undeniable Facts About the Michael Jackson Sexual-Abuse Allegations
1. **There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler** at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced. 2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.” 3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson. 4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings. 5. The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds. 6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there. 7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson. 8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet. 9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Jimmy Safechuck, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time. 10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.
The first point is all you need to know. He absolutely raped those kids.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jacko:
If we were to see a ban of MJ's music would that also include Jackson 5 stuff? Not like he was fiddling with kids at that age.
That was a suggestion on a podcast I was listening to yesterday. That and the Thriller backing bands (Brothers Johnson, and Toto).
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The best pedophiles have the ability to pick the best targets, they find those the easiest to manipulate and abuse. No doubt he didnt molest every kid he came into contact with.
Most of those points you shared were already well known. How the fuck he was cleared during those court cases ill never know. Having fucking top lawyers always helps, he had the guy who helped defend OJ didnt he?