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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense đ
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@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense đ
For starters you are calling me âthe leftâ as if you think everyoneâs political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not âthe leftâ and I am not âthe rightâ (or is that just ârightâ, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I donât concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasnât qualified to have an opinion.
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense đ
For starters you are calling me âthe leftâ as if you think everyoneâs political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not âthe leftâ and I am not âthe rightâ (or is that just ârightâ, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I donât concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasnât qualified to have an opinion.
Some people on here really donât get the irony of the accusations they throw around.Bolded is a straw man argument and one which I clearly did not make.
well, given the discussion is on the political bias of the BBC, what content in the panorama expose did you disagree with?
Which pieces of unedited transcripts from BBC management did you find so unbiased?
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Leave BBC Drama aside then...
âIn the BBC I joined 30 years ago, there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of peopleâs personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.
âNow it is a completely different generation. ....... It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. Weâre like that, too.
Mark Thompson - BBC Director General
https://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/lecture-thompson-bbc-interview
Good to see the BBC moved a bit towards the left-wing New Statesman then...
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
@Crucial said in British Politics:
@Siam said in British Politics:
TR exposed institutional bias on his panorama expose.
But if you didn't see it then you're not qualified to comment on that departure from the BBC charterWow! Watching one persons biased view about bias makes you qualified?
Why try and drag me into a totally different point to the one I was making?
You said I dragged you into something yet I made no reference to you.
Typical of the left, no argument but their opinion and then attack and smear something you know nothing about.
Don't worry, or bother replying, I'm using " left of centre" in the artistic sense đ
For starters you are calling me âthe leftâ as if you think everyoneâs political opinions are as narrow as your own seem to be. I am not âthe leftâ and I am not âthe rightâ (or is that just ârightâ, I find it hard to tell in the current climate).
Apparently I know nothing about something because I donât concur with you which makes your opinion fact and mine an opinion.
What have I attacked and smeared? I made a comment about a post which I believed misinterpreted a quote and you came wading in telling me I wasnât qualified to have an opinion.
Some people on here really donât get the irony of the accusations they throw around.I would describe your views as quite extreme left. Just based on my perceptions of your views and who you defend.
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
It means innovative thinking. The origin of the term is probably from âliberalâ but refers to an artistic rather than political sense.
That quote is not supportive of the Beeb bias argument at all.Might need to walk that one back @Crucial . I have never heard âleft of centre thinking â referring to brain laterality. Only âleft brainedâ or âright brainedâ. Even if you are right about the usage though, your explanation makes no sense because left brained laterality is supposed to indicate analytical and linear thought. It is right brain dominance that is associated with innovation, artistry and intuitiveness.
It is far more likely that what the Beeb guy said is what he actually meant. If heâd said right of centre thinking was needed, imagine the uproar.
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@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
Urban dictionary? Seriously?
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But hey if you guys want to seriously think that the context was that the BBC needs to biased towards innovative thinking. Knock your socks off and I have a bridge to sell you.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in British Politics:
@booboo said in British Politics:
@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
Urban dictionary? Seriously?
It's the first reference that came up. Indicates that the use of the phrase in the way suggested is not unheard of. Makes no judgement on journalistic bias. Sirry, I don't get your point.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in British Politics:
@booboo said in British Politics:
@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
Urban dictionary? Seriously?
It's the first reference that came up. Indicates that the use of the phrase in the way suggested is not unheard of. Makes no judgement on journalistic bias. Sirry, I don't get your point.
You know anyone can add entries on that site right? You evidence is effectively meaningless of anything except that one person thinks that way. It is like using my post to prove it doesn't mean that.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback I'm not arguing with you about the reliability of the source. It's just indicative that the phrase "left of centre thinking" is in the same wanky business speak lexicon as "thinking outside the box", or at least one person in the world outside of me, @Bones and @Crucial think so (unless BreeRos is @Bones in disguise).
I'm not judging what BBC bloke meant, only saying that I read it differently to @JC.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback I'm not arguing with you about the reliability of the source. It's just indicative that the phrase "left of centre thinking" is in the same wanky business speak lexicon as "thinking outside the box", or at least one person in the world outside of me, @Bones and @Crucial think so (unless BreeRos is @Bones in disguise).
I'm not judging what BBC bloke meant, only saying that I read it differently to @JC.
No it isnt. You are giving to much credence to that source.
That is a terrible example you used. But happy to settle this. Lets both do searches me for thinking out of the box, you for left of centre thinking and compare the top 10 results....
you keen? I suspect not, because your point is basically shite and your sole source is Crucial and urban dictionary.... -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback I am in complete awe of you.
How you manage to turn the simplest things into an argument is an amazing talent.
I'm tempted to take on your challenge. But I won't as I have more enjoyable things to do. I may well have a crack at some stage when I don't, but suspect I'll forget about this as it's just not that important to me.
Thus I concede. I am wrong.
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@booboo said in British Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback I am in complete awe of you.
How you manage to turn the simplest things into an argument is an amazing talent.
I'm tempted to take on your challenge. But I won't as I have more enjoyable things to do. I may well have a crack at some stage when I don't, but suspect I'll forget about this as it's just not that important to me.
Thus I concede. I am wrong.
Worst I am wrong but not wrong ever.
All I did was take the piss out of you using urban dictionary as a source for anything .. I think 3 words? and you decided to go into bat for it. You actually went into bat for Urban dictionary as a reliable source for something other than a sexual phrase. -
@booboo said in British Politics:
@JC I'll back @Crucial and @Bones on the meaning of "left of centre". That way is way read it.
FYI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm=left%2Bof%2Bcentre&=trueI'll make no comment on the BBC's political leanings.
P.S. Am wondering if the interpretation of "left of centre" could evolve into a discussion about how easy kicks from the sideline are.
Hey, Iâm not having a go or anything. Iâm happy to concede if someone cites a reliable source. Iâm just a bit sceptical that someone who is in the business of using words, for example someone who commissions drama for one of the foremost broadcasting organisations in the English speaking world, would use a term so carelessly that people were more likely to construe it for its most well known meaning rather than a more marginal one. It just seems more likely on balance that he actually meant politically left-leaning, or he could have chosen a different phrase. After all looking at the rest of the quotes from him heâs clearly not a stupid man.
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