Coronavirus - Overall
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We're in partial lockdown - that is whlist most shops are closed, there are still loads of people seemingly doing what they normally do, ie driving, going to work etc.
Myself and the missus are both working from home, deep joy. Seriously though, not too bad, but we both wonder how long our workplaces can continue - supplies will eventually run out. -
There's been a lot of talk in the UK about the police over-stepping the mark when enforcing the lockdown, but this has to take the biscuit.
A Facebook friend has posted she was stopped by Plod while walking in a Plymouth park, told to go home as she "wasn't wearing the right shoes for exercise or walking". She's 5' 0" and was wearing her normal high-ish heels.
Not being one to back down and with zero fear of officialdom, she took the PC's no. and has written to the Chief Constable asking where in UK law and/or guidelines does it specify what height of heels are legal.....
The reply could prove illuminating.
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@Victor-Meldrew I hope she didn't have to put her white lightening down to take his details.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew I hope she didn't have to put her white lightening down to take his details.
Nah, she hardly drinks much at all. Former Army officer - great fun but not the sort of lady you'd want to try to push around
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew I hope she didn't have to put her white lightening down to take his details.
The Janner is strong in this one.
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Could be. Dartmouth-born I think
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew I hope she didn't have to put her white lightening down to take his details.
The Janner is strong in this one.
Not to be confused with a Swilly...
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew I hope she didn't have to put her white lightening down to take his details.
The Janner is strong in this one.
Not to be confused with a Swilly...
I believe that is North Prospect these days.
On reflection, not that much better.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Could be. Dartmouth-born I think
Many good memories of playing on the pitch on the top of the hill. Friendly clubhouse afterwards too.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Nah, she hardly drinks much at all. Former Army officer
Confused...
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix". The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
From a straight forward perspective the prime objective is keeping people in groups of no more than two, and being 2m apart.
The use of the word 'essential' has confused many, including the police. The key context is in respect of those activities which it is essential to keep running.
But it is fine to travel to work even if such work is not essential, unless one can WFH.
Perhaps the Police need a simple course to help them out.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Chatting with my best friend who used to be a copper about the current state in Australia bearing in mind this post and his point was "police officers and power are an insanely dangerous mix".
TBF, I had no problem with the Police using a drone to video people driving out to the Dales to walk their dog and using that as a reminder to stay at home wherever possible. And, sure, it will take time for their new powers to bed down.
But fining a shopheeper for vandalism after he chalked the pavement so people could keep 2m apart or going thru peoples groceries to see if their purchases were "essential" shows a complete lack of common sense, respect for the public and knowledge of the law.
The one thing we can be thankful for is the lack of involvement by the army which would be worse
True, But the long litany of cover-ups, cock-ups, corruption, falsifying evidence, colluding in sexual abuse and lying to the public the UK police have been involved in in recent years does stretch the point at times.
I can actually confirm that the Army is heavily involved with keeping the peace. Just not in uniform.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Wimbledon cancelled.
The Edinburgh festival cancelled
The big Climate Change conference scheduled for November postponed.> The All Blacks' November Internationals must be in doubt.
No chance if the NH unions don't agree to revenue sharing. I think it's more likely we might see the rugby championship played in November TBH.
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@Billy-Tell said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Wimbledon cancelled.
The Edinburgh festival cancelled
The big Climate Change conference scheduled for November postponed.> The All Blacks' November Internationals must be in doubt.
No chance if the NH unions don't agree to
revenue sharingsubsidising. I think it's more likely we might see the rugby championship played in November TBH.Dons battle helmet, retreats to Anderson Shelter where the stocks of tinned food are ample.
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Dr Campbell explains some good news coming from Imperial College.
Basically the preventions are working. It is likely actual cases are grossly under-reported. Italy is likely to have had well over a million infections, maybe in the millions. They currently show a death rate around 13% but this is likely 1% or lower given the number of actual infected.
Probably why countries like Australia, NZ have such low death numbers is the virus did not actually take hold and spread before measures were put in place. So our number of cases reported are much closer to actual cases. Whereas Europe, the US are probably 10x higher or more.
Highly likely then in the short term our health systems are unlikely to become overburdened. The issue now is how do they open up the economy whilst controlling any left over cases.
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I guess the other issue with Corona is whilst the overall death rate is likely to be lower than first thought, it is still fucken deadly to the old who already have health issues.
They released the figures for that nursing home in the US, 130 odd residents, 101 got infected, 34 died. Those who died did have a range of issues with hypertension being the top of the list.
The question has to be, how do we protect the old and should Govt do anything to lower the rates of these existing conditions such as Hypertension and Cardiac disease?
Main causes of Hypertension
Smoking.
Being overweight or obese.
Lack of physical activity.
Too much salt in the diet.
Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day)
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I guess the other issue with Corona is whilst the overall death rate is likely to be lower than first thought, it is still fucken deadly to the old who already have health issues.
They released the figures for that nursing home in the US, 130 odd residents, 101 got infected, 34 died. Those who died did have a range of issues with hypertension being the top of the list.
The question has to be, how do we protect the old and should Govt do anything to lower the rates of these existing conditions such as Hypertension and Cardiac disease?
Main causes of Hypertension
Smoking.
Being overweight or obese.
Lack of physical activity.
Too much salt in the diet.
Too much alcohol consumption (more than 1 to 2 drinks per day)
Stress.I read somewhere that CV doubles one's chance of dying in next TWO months. If your heart or lungs are buggered it's a death sentence.