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@Rembrandt said in British Politics:
Not just 'far-right' anymore. Its 'extreme far right' now..ffs What's next when this term is over-used describing 60 year old women trying to make a stand for British history. 'Ultra mega far right'?
If ever there was a useless monument which needs taking down, it's Sadiq Khan.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MiketheSnow Interesting. The first question though is easily answered. Floyd was killed by a policeman, someone who is supposed to uphold the law. The others she mentioned were killed by criminals. That is quite a distinction.
That's a bit too simple mate. The policeman was also a criminal. We're all worldly enough to know about bad apples. Arsonist fireman aren't first and foremost firemen.
The first 2 points are valid.
Why do we ignore the most common homicide cohort? Black on black conflict is a dominant feature of murders and violent attacks in both USA and the UK. Add one white perpetrator and all reason vanishes. What does it matter, they're all Fucken murderers.
And yes, what do they want? What's their vision of non systemic racism look like? Where, exactly, is the racism? Laws? Rights?
Never any measurable outcomes or details with any of the current left's plans for the world.
Always an infantile " let's tear it all down and change will happen for the good".Sick of it. ( not you Cato), just the continual energy sapping frustration that all common knowledge and sense is being defiled so unashamedly ( proudly even!) by these selfish fluffybunnies and we're all supposed to act and respond with submission like their absolute nonsense is worth considering.
UK and USA in for a violent 2020?
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@Victor-Meldrew very good article. My main takeaway there is that these social issues are extraordinarily complex. Probably more complex than most people can wrap their heads around, so many who want to have an opinion seek out simple causes with simple solutions. Racism is one of those - that's a nice simple binary between being racist and not racist, and it's a simple concept to blame differences between racial groups solely on that.
In reality there is a multitude of issues at play with no one simple answer, which is why we haven't been able to properly address them.
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@No-Quarter said in British Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew very good article. My main takeaway there is that these social issues are extraordinarily complex. Probably more complex than most people can wrap their heads around, so many who want to have an opinion seek out simple causes with simple solutions. Racism is one of those - that's a nice simple binary between being racist and not racist, and it's a simple concept to blame differences between racial groups solely on that.
In reality there is a multitude of issues at play with no one simple answer, which is why we haven't been able to properly address them.
The biggest issue, for me, is the huge waste of talent and wealth creation caused by inequality in all its forms. Divisions of colour, race, whatever have little to do with it.
My guess is the "liberal elite", being wealthy, are opposed to real change to open up opportunity as they and their kids will face more competition and will be impacted. Gesture politics like tearing down statues makes them feel good in their expensive homes in catchment areas with the best, publicly-funded schools and their safe, very affluent neighbourhood.
Though she's a hypocrite for sending her kids to private schools, at least Diane Abbott was honest as to why she did it.
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Thomas Sowell offered another reason for people focussing on the wrong things
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied. They want villains to hate and heroes to cheer—and they don't want explanations that fail to give them that."
A lot of truth in that I'd say.
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@Victor-Meldrew yep, because West Indian woman will do anything for their children right? Straight out racism.
I didn't think my views on Sadiq Kunt could go any lower, but they have. I cannot believe his post today talking about the far right violence. Is he completely unaware that all of last weeks' shit was caused by the far left? Of course he's not. He just thinks as it's from one side, it's more tolerable than the other. As famous Brexiteer Julia Hartley-Brewer said ....
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@MajorRage that's classic. Londoners have no time for the hatred from the imaginary hijackers....but all the time in the world for those devastating London eh.
Almost as ironic as the racist abuse heaped on black and asian Tory MPs like Priti Patel, James Cleverley & Kemi Baddenock by Black Lives Matter supporters on Twitter....
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There was a big opportunity for politicians and leaders who (rightly) praise diversity to speak out about also respecting the culture of the indigenous people of the UK as well and bring some sanity into the debate.
They have been found wanting.
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We are reaching peak lunacy
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The cavalry has arrived.
https://streamable.com/9vtv0qKind of wish the police would defund themselves for the day but my worry is they'll be under instructions to arrest anyone pro-Britain.
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@Bones said in British Politics:
@Rembrandt said in British Politics:
Football lads alliance
Sound like a nice bunch.
Actually they seem alright. Came together after that string of terrorist attacks in London and Manchester. Pretty incredible to have what were bitter rivals come together. You can see their website and social media channels to see what they represent.
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I’m glad they are there. They won’t harm or antagonize the real BLM protests. But they will probably cause issue with those there to make trouble.
I’m openly pro the police, but I have been disappointed by the lack of backbone shown here. Same as NHS, this has nothing to do with the front line though.
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