Coronavirus - UK
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew ima be in Devon soon. Sorry.
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@Victor-Meldrew can't stand yuppies.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew ima be in Devon soon. Sorry.
Whereabouts mate. Not interested in meeting up, just want to know which sleaze pits to avoid.
Probably Sowton but tempted by Broadclyst.
In normal times I'd have said forget Sowton, nice village but Does. Not. Have. A. Pub. However, not quite so relevant these days
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@Bones Ah. I see you have done your research somewhat better than I. However if you still can't make up your mind then I would point out that whilst Broadclyst is that bit bigger offering more opportunities for stealing and dog-napping, the overall wealth profile is higher in Sowton. Better breeds of dog and of course more valuable jewellery. More bespoke and less H Samuel.
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@Catogrande woof woof.
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@Catogrande just outside Westward Ho!...
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So went camping over the weekend, down the south coast. Was a good weekend, and was quite happy to hear my wife o the way home say "it was good fun and I enjoyed it, but it's not really a holiday - more of an adventure". something I totally agree with.
Anyway, so the number on Saturday was much higher than previous, which obviously pointed to a second wave coming ( as per UK reporting incompetence, turns out most of them were from ages ago). So I think we all became acutely more aware around social distancing etc. And on the whole, I think people are working together. Orderly distanced queue's where required, loads of hand sanitiser readily available, and people just sort of getting on with it.
Recent communications are certainly much more focused about learning to live with it, as opposed to eradicate it. Probably not much choice now to be honest anyway.
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12:00 Pubs in Wales allowed to open outdoors only
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UK Gov Stats
The rate of deaths from all causes in June 2020 was 742.0 deaths per 100,000 persons in England and 837.5 deaths per 100,000 persons in Wales; both mortality rates were significantly lower than the five-year average (860.5 for England and 924.0 for Wales), though small increases in rates are expected over time as more deaths that occurred in June are registered.
So less deaths during a pandemic when preventable deaths from non-treatment are a supposed big issue?
Am I interpreting these figures wrong?
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
Am I interpreting these figures wrong?
Don't think so if you are looking at a single month. That said, Chris Whitty and Vallance have been clear we really won't know the true figure for excess deaths until a full year on year figure is available.
Perhaps June is low because some of the people who would have died in June from natural causes passed away from Covid in March-May?
As an aside, the current 45k Covid death figure is under urgent review as the NHS counted people who tested positive for Covid as being victims - even if their deaths were unrelated. E.g. a woman who died in a car accident was counted as she had tested positive 6 weeks previously.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
Am I interpreting these figures wrong?
Don't think so if you are looking at a single month. That said, Chris Whitty and Vallance have been clear we really won't know the true figure for excess deaths until a full year on year figure is available.
Perhaps June is low because some of the people who would have died in June from natural causes passed away from Covid in March-May?
As an aside, the current 45k Covid death figure is under urgent review as the NHS counted people who tested positive for Covid as being victims - even if their deaths were unrelated. E.g. a woman who died in a car accident was counted as she had tested positive 6 weeks previously.
Thanks.
Yes been seeing more and more of the 'died with covid' v 'died of covid'
There's no denying Covid is virulent and lethal, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's been blown out of proportion.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
Yes been seeing more and more of the 'died with covid' v 'died of covid'
Read somewhere that between 1,000 & 10,000 deaths covid "deaths" may not have anything to do with covid.
Would really like to know how that happened....
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@Victor-Meldrew @MiketheSnow Probably belongs in the mens thread but you two have made this sort of thing mainstream news.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
Yes been seeing more and more of the 'died with covid' v 'died of covid'
Read somewhere that between 1,000 & 10,000 deaths covid "deaths" may not have anything to do with covid.
Would really like to know how that happened....
Odd. How and why they did/do that is the question.
Still leaves 35-44k death due to COVID.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
the mens thread
I'm at a loss as to why I haven't been invited to this thread.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
the mens thread
I'm at a loss as to why I haven't been invited to this thread.
Because your name is Honey?
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@Catogrande well if you're paying, yeah.