Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Begs the question, what is the point of being a New Zealander?
Enables me to not have to beg the Australian Govt for permission to leave.
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could go in politics thread...indicator for how long govt planing to keep borders restricted?
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Info about the "Covid Card" that they're trialling in Rotorua.
Identity Card that you have to have when out in public? Yeah nothing worrying about that
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Info about the "Covid Card" that they're trialling in Rotorua.
Identity Card that you have to have when out in public? Yeah nothing worrying about that
What's the worrying part?
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Info about the "Covid Card" that they're trialling in Rotorua.
Identity Card that you have to have when out in public? Yeah nothing worrying about that
What's the worrying part?
Seriously?
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Info about the "Covid Card" that they're trialling in Rotorua.
Identity Card that you have to have when out in public? Yeah nothing worrying about that
What's the worrying part?
Seriously?
Yeah.
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I guess he’s referring to this:
I'm thinking we have moved on as a species since then
Wishful thinking. The potential for misuse of a national ID card that tracks citizens movements is immense. It's a totalitarian's wet dream.
It'll start with the best of intentions (giving credit here), but history shows (even recent history) that humans are tribal and love to put people in groups. These sorts of tools lead to very horrible outcomes.
While we sort out how to deal with this pandemic it's important we don't throw away hard fought for freedoms.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's always interesting watching how these debates pan out.
The optimism and faith of @Hooroo versing the cynicism and doubt of @Kirwan ?
It is likely that somewhere in between lies the best answer.
I'm a cynic of course so that is where it lies for me.
My starting point is we have a Prime Minister that unironically uses the word comrade.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's always interesting watching how these debates pan out.
The optimism and faith of @Hooroo versing the cynicism and doubt of @Kirwan ?
It is likely that somewhere in between lies the best answer.
I'm a cynic of course so that is where it lies for me.
My starting point is we have a Prime Minister that unironically uses the word comrade.
That doesn't scare me in the slightest
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's always interesting watching how these debates pan out.
The optimism and faith of @Hooroo versing the cynicism and doubt of @Kirwan ?
It is likely that somewhere in between lies the best answer.
I'm a cynic of course so that is where it lies for me.
My starting point is we have a Prime Minister that unironically uses the word comrade.
That doesn't scare me in the slightest
It probably should given the history. Try using the word "Nigger" too.
Ultimately they are only words but they do have historical significance.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's always interesting watching how these debates pan out.
The optimism and faith of @Hooroo versing the cynicism and doubt of @Kirwan ?
It is likely that somewhere in between lies the best answer.
I'm a cynic of course so that is where it lies for me.
My starting point is we have a Prime Minister that unironically uses the word comrade.
That doesn't scare me in the slightest
It probably should given the history. Try using the word "Nigger" too.
Ultimately they are only words but they do have historical significance.
What history?
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@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy What I mean is that the outcome of her saying that doe not bother me. I don't think we are suddenly going to become a communist country
At the risk of further kicking this into a politics thread it's frankly quite batty to think we're moving closer to becoming dirty commies. I sometimes feel like I've dropped into the McCarthy era in this place.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Hooroo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's always interesting watching how these debates pan out.
The optimism and faith of @Hooroo versing the cynicism and doubt of @Kirwan ?
It is likely that somewhere in between lies the best answer.
I'm a cynic of course so that is where it lies for me.
My starting point is we have a Prime Minister that unironically uses the word comrade.
That doesn't scare me in the slightest
It probably should given the history. Try using the word "Nigger" too.
Ultimately they are only words but they do have historical significance.
What history?
Communist history, comrade. It hasn't ended well as a rule.