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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the importance of continuing using the App
This. I will be fucked off if we head back into another lockdown simply because people are complacent morons.
Bang on all you like about the government getting the strategy wrong but until people take some personal responsibility they should shut the fuck up.
I was only thinking an hour or so before the announcement about The Malt that I hadn't seen anyone use the app for at least a week.
We dodged a bullet with the JetPark nurse because they were able to effectively contact trace very quickly. That pub was apparently heaving Friday. If everyone that was there had used the app they'd have been self-isolating since yesterday evening and contact tracing would already be well underway.
Most people can probably recall they went to the boozer Friday night but will they remember all their other movements - unlikely.
Also what chance an effective lockdown in the middle of summer - yeah nah.
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@canefan think it just highlights how tricky it will be to 'eliminate' the virus form the community and keep it out.
So there needs to be a concerted approach around education (masks, social distancing) ensuring use of the app to avoid any chance of another lockdown.
We are fortunate out numbers even with this isolation breakout are still low, so managing it better is key.
Also, isn't it cos of lazy folks we need to import workers
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SA, WA and Queensland to a lesser extent haven't had community cases for months and we don't hear about quarantine breaches in those states, with the exception of Queensland a few weeks ago. Makes me wonder about NZ's border control. Is it as strong as it could be?
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@akan004 I checked all three of those airports and they have no international flights today, only domestic. So plague ridden arrivees are presumably sitting out their quarantine in NSW or Vic before getting on a flight to the other state capitals. I thought those three had pretty much drawn the bridge up over the moat anyways isolating the two most populous states?
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Think we have had a fair bit of luck in dealing with CV when you think about all the potential gaps and breaches along the way.
Reckon they needed to charge the first couple of breaches to the full extent of the law to make people know breaches would not be tolerated
Official figures show 32 people breached Covid-19 isolation rules during a 58-day period between April and June.
Nobody was charged, with all incidents dealt with via warnings and education.
The breaches occurred between 17 April and 14 June, for either absconding, failing to return, or attempting to flee the managed isolation facilities.
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For those who ranted and raved about the lockdown in NZ, I'll just leave this graph here. These figures despite Switzerland having never removed all covid measures and with a population that has a worldwide reputation for "following the rules"
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
eh, I'm not surprised any more. The borders can't be sealed - so having a resilient system internally is so important.
This is a nasty wee virus. Wish China had copped to it when it became apparent it was transmitting amongst humans (yes, I'm still holding that grudge)
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The borders can't be sealed - so having a resilient system internally is so important.
People need to use the fucking app
Microchip everyone. Its the only way to ensure high levels of compliance
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The borders can't be sealed - so having a resilient system internally is so important.
People need to use the fucking app
I agree.
But if that's our line of defence, we need to actually commit to it, encourage the use and get a culture change. Get tracking whether it's actually working and getting used enough, report that
No app no service, for instance.
Disclaimer:I use it whenever I can
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@canefan yep, I think luck has played a big part in it to date, just dont want our luck to run out!
I use the apps if I go into shops (most of the time) but when I go to the gym I dont...
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@taniwharugby I wonder what the timetable for travel bubbles is? Cook Islands sounds like it will be first. I don't expect a transtasman bubble until mid 2021 if we are lucky
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@nzzp I have used it without fail ever since Akl went into second lockdown. Prior to that I had got a little blase like everyone. Mainly because it was a ball ache with so many different apps and so many businesses using nothing. making it compulsory has removed all excuses TBH Although I did come across one retailer last week who didn't display it and said they didn't need that rubbish. Told them I suggested they start displaying it as I would be back to check and if not I would no hesitate to dob them in. Bit of an empty threat as it was two hours before I flew out.
Coronavirus - New Zealand