Coronavirus - UK
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
Which is why I wrote 'strategic mistake / miscommunication' but other members of the Senedd who have attempted to clarify Drakeford's position have just muddied the waters.
Shambles.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
Which is why I wrote 'strategic mistake / miscommunication' but other members of the Senedd who have attempted to clarify Drakeford's position have just muddied the waters.
Shambles.
With all due respect to Wales, it's classic council-like behaviour. Zero forward planning, with extreme wastage on optics.
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4.2 million vaccinated as of today.
Been wary of praising the roll-out in case the Curse of the Meldrews strikes, but that is a bloody impressive achievement.
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@MajorRage As an auditor is just an accountant but without the personality, so a councillor is an MP without the common sense.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK getting act together: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/16/britain-will-able-vaccinate-nation-against-new-covid-strains/
This was all I could read, but seems enough.
"Britain will be able to vaccinate the entire nation against dangerous new Covid strains within four months after a £158m super-factory opens later this year, The Telegraph can disclose...."
There's been a program in place to streamline the whole process from a virus being discovered to a patient leaving a GP surgery/vaccination centre running for 4-5 years. Ex-colleague of mine has been working on it for a while. It's around operational process streamlining and getting everyone from vaccine developers, regulators and manufacturers working to a common plan.
One example: rather than present the regulators with trial protocols and results to get approval, the trial protocols are agreed up front before the trials take place, which reduces the risk of trial needing to e done again.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
It's coming to something when the media understands the process better than politician!
Just bonkers.
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Anyone had the Oxford astra zenica jab yet? Some colleagues at work had it Saturday as some patients had cancelled (we've all been told to be ready to receive it with an hours notice). Well anyway 4 out of 5 were struggling today, apparently Sunday was worse with shivers and aches, they looked awful today. One in our office was fanning herself all day and on the lemsips lol. One of my elderly relatives had the Pfizer one last week and not a side effect on her at all... Apparently more ouchies with the Oxford one!?
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@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
Anyone had the Oxford astra zenica jab yet? Some colleagues at work had it Saturday as some patients had cancelled (we've all been told to be ready to receive it with an hours notice). Well anyway 4 out of 5 were struggling today, apparently Sunday was worse with shivers and aches, they looked awful today. One in our office was fanning herself all day and on the lemsips lol. One of my elderly relatives had the Pfizer one last week and not a side effect on her at all... Apparently more ouchies with the Oxford one!?
My wife and daughter have had Pfizer and so far only minor impact, other than sore arm.
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@pakman that's good, yeah everyone who's had Pfizer has just said a bit of jab site tenderness but no illness. I assume I'll be having the Oxford one as that's what the vacc centre has at the moment. I'm not great with a flu jab (which I've only ever had through occy health not for health reasons) and I always got snuffly and aches after that in the past so makes me a bit nervous. Will put my big girl pants on that day 😬
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Surely not? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/14/lockdown-sceptics-have-one-last-chance-lead-covid-debate/
Zero Covid is latest Woke campaign.
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@R-L presume you’re not high up the vaccine priority list?
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@pakman oh absolutely not, just management, I'd happily wait until whenever but perk of the job I guess. Lots of admin and management in hospitals were done really early but in GP land you wait, and that's fine by me, our GPs haven't had theirs yet either, a few nurses and admin have so we think they are going by age when there is a spare appointment slot going and calling us in.
One of our staff is still really unwell after the vacc so is looking like she might have been exposed to covid prior to vac!? -
@R-L
I'd imagine hospital admin people would be at risk from spreading the virus as come into contact with all groups of people, so makes sense to vaccinate them as a priority, I'd guess.
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@Victor-Meldrew yes agreed, just highlighting the difference between settings, different worlds. We still have a small amount of patients coming into our buildings but very few. And I don't want to take away the importance of admin and management also incase anyone takes offence, without them the doctors and nurses and frontliners wouldn't be organising their own clinics, arranging appointments, ensuring staff are covered,paying bills, ordering stock, auditing, reporting on vulnerable patients etc etc etc. The background staff help the frontliners keep going so to speak.
Not to mention just mucking in anywhere they can, I had to recheck the governments shielding cohorts in the first lockdown running them through our clinical system and get clinicians to add more patients as thousands missed off. Ball aches if I had any. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L
I'd imagine hospital admin people would be at risk from spreading the virus as come into contact with all groups of people, so makes sense to vaccinate them as a priority, I'd guess.
The admin people involved in some vaccination hubs (including Mrs. P) are coming into contact with 100 or more people each session.
No brainer to be given first dose (the Covid lefties are at pains to make clear they have NOT been vaccinated until second dose).
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@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
Not to mention just mucking in anywhere they can, I had to recheck the governments shielding cohorts in the first lockdown running them through our clinical system and get clinicians to add more patients as thousands missed off. Ball aches if I had any.
Can understand weird problems cropping up.
Big vaccination centre set up here in Pensilva. Entrance and parking is good but people were turning up an hour before their appointment causing big problems with congestion. Big push on social media and radio seems to have cured it
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
Not to mention just mucking in anywhere they can, I had to recheck the governments shielding cohorts in the first lockdown running them through our clinical system and get clinicians to add more patients as thousands missed off. Ball aches if I had any.
Can understand weird problems cropping up.
Big vaccination centre set up here in Pensilva. Entrance and parking is good but people were turning up an hour before their appointment causing big problems with congestion. Big push on social media and radio seems to have cured it
Make sure you wear your beater too, apparently that's slowing things down a bit (BBC were extremely positive with their brekky show this morning, even helpful)!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
Make sure you wear your beater too
"beater" ?