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A just resigned Labour front benched writes ...
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@majorrage He's bang on pont there. It really is quite simple isn't it?
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@catogrande said in British Politics:
@majorrage He's bang on pont there. It really is quite simple isn't it?
In my view, yes. Plenty online criticizing / calling bullshit etc which is fine, but offering up no reasons for Labours demise.
Those that are, only saying it’s Starmers leadership / lack of direction .... which is basically the same point ...
Ah politics, amazing how much I used to hate it, but now enjoy it.
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@majorrage said in British Politics:
@catogrande said in British Politics:
@majorrage He's bang on pont there. It really is quite simple isn't it?
In my view, yes. Plenty online criticizing / calling bullshit etc which is fine, but offering up no reasons for Labours demise.
Those that are, only saying it’s Starmers leadership / lack of direction .... which is basically the same point ...
Ah politics, amazing how much I used to hate it, but now enjoy it.
In part you can probably thank BSG for both!
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On a positive note and away from the Starmer & Labour travails but still on the "Red Wall" I've been reading what the Teeside Mayor, Ben Houchen has achieved in his first term. Some really good stuff in a deprived area with not a huge amount of money which has made a big difference - a bit like the turnaround the Labour Council achieved in Sheffield in the late 80's & 90's.
These areas have been taken for granted by Labour for decades and there's so much wasted potential to be realised so it's good to see them finally being targeted for investment as the whole country can benefit.
These areas won't be taken for granted by the Tories, and if Labour can get it's act together and start both supporting the government in investing in these areas and holding them to account it could be a win/win for both them and the areas they used to represent.
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@pakman said in British Politics:
More votes in centre than hard left. Pretty obvious it’s more fertile ground to hoe. Not sure how reliant Labour still is on union funding?
I think the divide is possibly more sensible v nutcase rather than left/right.
Cornwall is now a solid blue council where a few elections ago it was pretty much all Lib Dem/Independent council and MP's - though to be fair, the Council ran/runs things pretty well and seems almost apolitical.
Haven't been living long enough here to say why the move away from the Lib Dems, but from what I've heard, the current MPs all seem hard working, reasonably well-liked and many are locally-born and aren't shouty firebrands. Perhaps that's a factor?
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@victor-meldrew said in British Politics:
@pakman said in British Politics:
More votes in centre than hard left. Pretty obvious it’s more fertile ground to hoe. Not sure how reliant Labour still is on union funding?
I think the divide is possibly more sensible v nutcase rather than left/right.
Cornwall is now a solid blue council where a few elections ago it was pretty much all Lib Dem/Independent council and MP's - though to be fair, the Council ran/runs things pretty well and seems almost apolitical.
Haven't been living long enough here to say why the move away from the Lib Dems, but from what I've heard, the current MPs all seem hard working, reasonably well-liked and many are locally-born and aren't shouty firebrands. Perhaps that's a factor?
That would appeal to the no-nonsense attitude of our cousins from the other side of the Tamar.
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@catogrande said in British Politics:
That would appeal to the no-nonsense attitude of our cousins from the other side of the Tamar.
Our local MP grew up in Cornwall, had a succession of jobs as a receptionist, looks like a middle-aged Essex girl, speaks her mind, has a daughter serving in the Royal Navy, gives the finger to hecklers at election meetings and gets pissed in the HoC. She lost her husband in a fishing accident and when she campaigns for marine safety, people listen - she's had two Bills on marine safety passed into law.
She's very popular - can't think why.
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Starmer having said yesterday that he would take full responsibility for Labour's electoral setbacks has now decided Deputy heads must roll.
Angela Rayner sacked as Labour Chair, but Starmer can't sack her as Labour Deputy Leader.
Lisa Nandy tipped for demotion from Labour Foreign Affairs position.
Not a clever move to demote your only two prominent Shadow Cabinet members from the North of England when you're struggling to connect with voters in the North of England.
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@sparky said in British Politics:
Lisa Nandy tipped for demotion from Labour Foreign Affairs position.
Unbelievable. Nandy is one of the few Labour MPs who looks and sounds normal and is an effective shadow minister
EDIT: Being reported that Jon Ashworth, the shadow health secretary is also facing the sack. WTF? Either Starmer is playing 4D chess or he's panicking.
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@victor-meldrew said in British Politics:
@sparky said in British Politics:
Lisa Nandy tipped for demotion from Labour Foreign Affairs position.
Unbelievable. Nandy is one of the few Labour MPs who looks and sounds normal and is an effective shadow minister
EDIT: Being reported that Jon Ashworth, the shadow health secretary is also facing the sack. WTF? Either Starmer is playing 4D chess or he's panicking.
Nandy is a very good minister, even if I don't support her politics. Likewise, Ashworth is one of the few otheres whose made a favourable impression. WTF, indeed!
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@majorrage said in British Politics:
Owen Jones is losing his shit over this.
That shite-hawk has an endless supply. Sadly.
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@mikethesnow said in British Politics:
@victor-meldrew said in British Politics:
This has to be the coolest (or weirdest) political campaign video I've ever seen. Great name too..
(Was 50/50 putting it in this thread or the Stupid Shit You See on the Internet" one)
WT actual F
Tiger won his seat and is now a Councillor.
This is very good news for makers of extremely weird campaign videos.
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@sparky said in British Politics:
Khan won in London by about 10% in the end, not that impressive when you consider the Conservative Party pulled funds from their candidate.
If ever the divide between London & the rest of the country needed a statement, the result of this election was it.
Khan, is quite easily, the worst politician I've ever known. He does not stand for one single thing that the rest of the country does. He wants London to be torn of all it's history, replaced with a new far-left narrative. He is a complete, and utter disgrace who, in my view, has been elected on the back of the left-wing hipsters voting for a Muslim to prove how progressive they are.
I've not been into the city for over a year now, and I've missed it. But today, I feel in no hurry to get back, ever.
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