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<p>Yeah. It was a hoot. They saw the set up and ran with it. Good damn job too. They were devious and excelled with execution. Brilliant</p>
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<p>And you have the same attitude to your professional and personal life? Dishonesty to hurt someone else is all good as long as it executed well?</p> -
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<p>Well it's no Eddie Murphy Raw or Delirious.....but yeah still a bit amusing. Is it ok that I think that or should I brace myself for the wrath of your moral outrage ?</p>
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<p>Moral outrage.... yeah ok....if it is moral outrage to just not like people being dishonest with the sole purpose to humiliate another. </p> -
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<p>I certainly don't go overboard with outrage at a good move. I thought it was deserved and am happy with that particular situation. I'd lie to shaft someone that I thought was a fucking dickhead or silly bint. Yes</p>
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<p>.....and said person sure as shit put themselves in that situation.</p> -
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<p>I'd lie to shaft someone that I thought was a fucking dickhead or silly bint. Yes</p>
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<p>.....and said person sure as shit put themselves in that situation.</p>
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<p>She was not doing anything to harm anyone, she was just trying to stop comments about her son. Misguided and a bit silly yeah. So yeah she put herself in a position where a couple of dishonest pricks could lie to her and humiliate her if they wanted to. But people with even a shred of common decency who get those sorts of chances every day, don't do it.</p>
<p>I think You, Hooroo and Auckland Warlord are just exhibiting your character., I am not annoyed.. no skin off my nose, just intrigued and informed yet again that there are some monumental assholes in the world that should not be trusted.. I have my share of robust debates on this board but what you see is pretty much what you get, I dont bother telling lies, and in my personal life I would never lie to humiliate a 'dickhead' or 'bint' if they were doing precisely nothing to harm me or anyone else....just being a bit dopey.</p>
<p>I wont trust much of what Hooroo has to say if all it takes for him to lie about someone is if he thinks they are a dickhead. Pretty low base. He must be an piston wristed gibbon to work for.</p> -
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<p>I haven't listened to the call - why is it so embarrassing for her?</p>
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<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I wanted to speak to somebody off air please.</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> You wanted to speak to somebody off air?</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> Yes</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> OK. You’re off air.</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I am?</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Yeah</u></p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><u><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> OK, that’s fine.</u> Look, I’m just ringing in regards to the program that’s on air, I think it’s Matt and Jeremy? I just wanted to basically I guess put forward my thoughts in regards to the way they have bagged the English cricketer Ben Stokes this morning.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Yes</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> When they have never met him, they don’t know him and maybe if they had tempered the inappropriate remarks and name calling with some quotes of some supportive tweets he’s received from some very well-known cricketers and just your ordinary Joe Bloggs cricket supporters, maybe ...</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Could you slow down a bit, I’m writing this complaint down. I’ve got to get it through to Matt and Jeremy. OK cool.</p>
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<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I don’t know whether they realise he was actually born and bred in New Zealand and quite frankly has family all over the country. And for those who listen to your station, for them to sit and listen to their cousin and their grandson being bagged like that is absolutely unconscionable and I’m his mother and I’m totally brassed off.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> You’re brassed off are you?</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> Oh yes I am brassed off.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Well he’s a great cricket player, he’s amazing.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I know he is, but it’s not even about the cricket. It’s about the personal attack on him. They called him arrogant and then they called him some sort of name. They don’t know him! They wouldn’t have a bloomin’ clue!</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> I don’t remember them calling him any other words, other than he made some pretty arrogant comments before the game.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> No he didn’t! It’s a load of rubbish!</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Yes he did.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> Arrogance isn’t a part of his make up.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> Look, I’m writing it down here to tell Matt and Jerry he’s a great player and that his mum loves him.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> Are you being smart here?</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> No.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I just want to get the point across ...</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Matt:</span> He’s an amazing cricket player. He’s incredible. He does our country proud and geez we’d love to have him playing for New Zealand. He’s an amazing, amazing cricket player. Incredible.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> I get that, but what I’m saying is, for my family — and a lot of my family have rung me and said ‘have you heard this, Deb?’ — I’m just really disappointed. Say those things and then temper it with some positives. Have a look on Twitter, see the likes of Kevin Pietersen, Tino Best, Graham Onions — all of those people giving him their support because they know that tomorrow is another day.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);"><span style="margin:0px;font-family:LiberationSerifBold, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;">Deborah:</span> You’re a lovely woman Debs and thanks for call and we’ll make sure that gets righted on the show. You have a great day.</p> -
<p>Hardly the utterings of a silly bint in my opinion</p>
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<p>Just somebody ringing a radio station in order to. talk about the show. Somebody who was assured twice that she was off air</p>
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<p>Here is her response after the "incident"</p>
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><em>"The first I knew about it [Wells and Heath not working on Thursday morning] was when a friend said it [the story] was online," Stokes said.</em></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><em>"It might have been nice to get one [an apology]."</em></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><em>Asked if she believed she deserved an apology, she stated: "I have got better things to think about. I guess a little bit of trust has gone. People can make their own judgement. There's worse things that happen at sea. It's a bit unfair on Ben."</em></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><em>Stokes said she rang the radio station because "I just wanted to put it out there that they had upset some family members".</em></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><em>"But I don't see any point in making any further comment," she said.</em></p>
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-size:14px;">All pretty reasonable from the Mum I would have thought</span></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-size:14px;">All pretty sad from the radio hosts. Not sure anyone on here wants a private conversation broadcast on air if they've been told they are off air.</span></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-size:14px;">Pretty tough lying and being a smart arse to a woman trying to stick up for her family IMO</span></p> -
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<p>She was not doing anything to harm anyone, she was just trying to stop comments about her son. Misguided and a bit silly yeah. So yeah she put herself in a position where a couple of dishonest pricks could lie to her and humiliate her if they wanted to. But people with even a shred of common decency who get those sorts of chances every day, don't do it.</p>
<p>I think You, Hooroo and Auckland Warlord are just exhibiting your character., I am not annoyed.. no skin off my nose, just intrigued and informed yet again that there are some monumental assholes in the world that should not be trusted.. I have my share of robust debates on this board but what you see is pretty much what you get, I dont bother telling lies, and in my personal life I would never lie to humiliate a 'dickhead' or 'bint' if they were doing precisely nothing to harm me or anyone else....just being a bit dopey.</p>
<p>I wont trust much of what Hooroo has to say if all it takes for him to lie about someone is if he thinks they are a dickhead. Pretty low base. He must be an Willis to work for.</p>
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<p>She was not doing anything to harm anyone, she was just trying to stop comments about her son. Misguided and a bit silly yeah. So yeah she put herself in a position where a couple of dishonest pricks could lie to her and humiliate her if they wanted to. But people with even a shred of common decency who get those sorts of chances every day, don't do it.</p>
<p>I think You, Hooroo and Auckland Warlord are just exhibiting your character., I am not annoyed.. no skin off my nose, just intrigued and informed yet again that there are some monumental assholes in the world that should not be trusted.. I have my share of robust debates on this board but what you see is pretty much what you get, I dont bother telling lies, and in my personal life I would never lie to humiliate a 'dickhead' or 'bint' if they were doing precisely nothing to harm me or anyone else....just being a bit dopey.</p>
<p>I wont trust much of what Hooroo has to say if all it takes for him to lie about someone is if he thinks they are a dickhead. Pretty low base. He must be an Willis to work for.</p>
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<p>Well what I've read of you on this forum you just seem to be antagonistic for the sake of it, anyway, I'm sure there's one, maybe two people who sleep safer knowing you're out there fighting the brave internet crusade for them.</p>
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<p>With regards to the hoping anyone who laughed at it gets humiliated stuff you're gonna be fucken busy if the "hoping" is on a case by case basis.</p> -
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<p>Well what I've read of you on this forum you just seem to be antagonistic for the sake of it, anyway, I'm sure there's one, maybe two people who sleep safer knowing you're out there fighting the brave internet crusade for them.</p>
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<p>With regards to the hoping anyone who laughed at it gets humiliated stuff you're gonna be fucken busy if the "hoping" is on a case by case basis.</p>
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<p>Yip. I am not sure why you are so concerned about being humiliated publicly by someone who lies to you. You think that sort of dishonest shit is humorous. Oh how you would laugh if someone lied to you, despite you doing nothing offensive or rude to them... and then they humiliate widely and publicly.... the hilarity!</p>
<p>It is not about any kind of internet crusade, my experience is that you cannot change nasty dishonest people, they are just that way inclined. People like Wells and people who find his actions humorous will never change their mind, because they just lack common decency and empathy. I guess it just a difference between those who do their best to treat other how they would like to be treated and dishonest piston wristed gibbons.</p>
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<p>I dont really care to much about it, I haven't complained to the station. I just know the DJ's are pricks looking for ratings with dishonesty and public humiliation of innocent people. I just assumed that everyone would see what kind fo a dick move it was, but instead we get people supporting such BS</p>
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<p>How would you react if your kids came home and told you how they had lied to a kid and humiliated publicly him/her cause the kid had done something dumb? Bit of a high five moment in the MN5 household aye..</p> -
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Hardly the utterings of a silly bint in my opinion<br><br>
Just somebody ringing a radio station in order to. talk about the show. Somebody who was assured twice that she was off air<br><br>
Here is her response after the "incident"<br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><em>"The first I knew about it [Wells and Heath not working on Thursday morning] was when a friend said it [the story] was online," Stokes said.</em></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><em>"It might have been nice to get one [an apology]."</em></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><em>Asked if she believed she deserved an apology, she stated: "I have got better things to think about. I guess a little bit of trust has gone. People can make their own judgement. There's worse things that happen at sea. It's a bit unfair on Ben."</em></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><em>Stokes said she rang the radio station because "I just wanted to put it out there that they had upset some family members".</em></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><em>"But I don't see any point in making any further comment," she said.</em></span></span></span><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><span style="font-size:14px;">All pretty reasonable from the Mum I would have thought</span></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><span style="font-size:14px;">All pretty sad from the radio hosts. Not sure anyone on here wants a private conversation broadcast on air if they've been told they are off air.</span></span></span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br><span style="font-size:14px;">Pretty tough lying and being a smart arse to a woman trying to stick up for her family IMO</span></span></span></span></p></blockquote>
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Well what I've read of you on this forum you just seem to be antagonistic for the sake of it, anyway, I'm sure there's one, maybe two people who sleep safer knowing you're out there fighting the brave internet crusade for them.<br><br>
With regards to the hoping anyone who laughed at it gets humiliated stuff you're gonna be fucken busy if the "hoping" is on a case by case basis.</p></blockquote>
Frankly I agree with the Baron. I hope you're embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves that you think that's funny.<br><br>
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How would you react if your kids came home and told you how they had lied to a kid and humiliated publicly him/her cause the kid had done something dumb?</p></blockquote>
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The radio DJs come out looking like arseholes from all of that. I can't stand humour that is basically humiliate or denigrate people for fun. It's how dumb bullies at high school get their kicks & it says far more about them then the people they are picking on.
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No problem. <br><br>
This sort of thing makes me chortle. <br><br>
Keyboard warriors like you (you're nothing but, let's make that clear) defining people because of Internet words. Words on Internet. <br><br>
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<p>No problem.<br><br>
This sort of thing makes me chortle.<br><br>
Keyboard warriors like you (you're nothing but, let's make that clear) defining people because of Internet words. Words on Internet.<br><br>
Love watching silly boys argue like it actually matters. Opinionated keyboard heros.</p>
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<p>Really? YOU are accusing me of being an internet warrior?? Pot kettle much??? That is an astounding lack of self awareness right there. Go tell Ben Stokes that his mum is a silly bint...</p>
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<p>I would have no issue telling Wells how lowly I think of him... it is his job to be an asshole.</p>
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<p>You are after all the one who has admitted that you would lie to shaft someone just because they did something dumb. Seriously what kind of individual has that attitude?? And these arent just words, I think differently of you now. I am genuinely surprised. </p>
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<p>As for silly boys, personally I think that lies squarely with those who support cretins like Wells. </p>