Jeffrey Epstein
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I knew about Peter Nygard, but I didn't know that he was another of Prince Andrew's mates.
On November 24, 2019, Bahamas police began investigating six allegations of rape made against Nygård. All the alleged victims were under 16.[49] On January 27, 2020, Nygård faced two separate lawsuits after being accused of sexual assault.[50] On February 13, 2020, 10 women filed a class action against Nygård in New York, alleging that he had raped them at his Bahamas residence. They also alleged he maintained a sex-trafficking ring. Eight of the alleged victims were underaged.,[51][52] On February 25, 2020, the New York headquarters of Nygård International were raided by the FBI and NYPD, in connection with sex trafficking claims. This led to Nygård stepping down from the company.[53][54][55][56] On April 22, 2020, 36 new women joined a sex assault suit that was filed in February 2020.[57] On August 17, 2020, Nygård was sued by two of his sons on accusations of directing a known sex worker said to be "his girlfriend" to rape them.[58] On December 15, 2020 it was reported that Instagram model Suelyn Medeiros and Warren & Baram Management LLC were named as alleged co-conspirators in Peter Nygard's alleged sex trafficking scheme in 2 separate lawsuits.[59] On December 15, 2020, Nygård was arrested in Winnipeg for extradition to the US to face charges of sex trafficking by the US attorney's office in Manhattan.[60]
Prominent figures have visited Nygard Cay over the years include Michael Jackson, George H. W. Bush, Robert De Niro, and Prince Andrew, Duke of York.[19][20]
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@tim said in Jeffrey Epstein:
wow and they could just as easily have been paid to not notice anything.
Guards on crazy overtime guarding perhaps the biggest celeb prisoner in the States at the time? The system must be falling apart at the seams.
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I still haven't come to terms with Bill Clinton spending so much time with Epstein in his plane and on his island, yet just continues on as if there's nothing amiss. Why isn't he being absolutely hauled over the coals and made to answer what the fuck he was doing.
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@no-quarter said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I still haven't come to terms with Bill Clinton spending so much time with Epstein in his plane and on his island, yet just continues on as if there's nothing amiss. Why isn't he being absolutely hauled over the coals and made to answer what the fuck he was doing.
Because he's American 'royalty' and therefore untouchable
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@no-quarter said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I still haven't come to terms with Bill Clinton spending so much time with Epstein in his plane and on his island, yet just continues on as if there's nothing amiss. Why isn't he being absolutely hauled over the coals and made to answer what the fuck he was doing.
Isn't there quite a list but.... I'm not sure why anybody would focus on ONLY Bill Clinton...
Possibly because Trump was also a frequent flyer, so a "don't ask, don't tell" policy would have made sense until recently... but probably a shitload of other people still in the system... so it's still a "yeah... let's let that hornet's nest lie" -
@siam said in Jeffrey Epstein:
@kruse what proof that Trump was a frequent flyer?
Plenty of lists and docs stating Clinton took 20 plus trips. How many did Trump take to make it equivalency?Does it need equivalency? His name is on the passenger list. All flight plans have an associated passenger manifest in case of an accident. Those records are kept. As @Kruse says there will be many names. He may not be a "frequent flyer" but he is there and might have been there more if they hadn't tried to buy the same property at auction and fallen out. Who knows?
Does the number of times really count? Get them all, the severity of the punishment has to be related to the crime in each case. Frequency should come into it but it doesn't exclude even one event of abuse. Trump was accused of rape previously but the charges were dropped. Read into that what you will.
Believe what you want out of that lot:
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@snowy you're probably right but there seems to be difference between 26 trips being reported vs 1 or 2. I think that difference is significant regardless of the travellers name.
I think we can conclude Clinton was tighter with Epstein than trump.
Of course the biggest feature of all this is how nobody is held accountable in the face of such foreboding evidence. Damn the girls involved, no one cares that they get justice - dead name a trannie though....🙂
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@siam said in Jeffrey Epstein:
Of course the biggest feature of all this is how nobody is held accountable in the face of such foreboding evidence. Damn the girls involved, no one cares that they get justice -
Exactly. Creepy old men who are beyond reproach it seems.
@siam said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I think we can conclude Clinton was tighter with Epstein than trump.
Well Trump and him had the bitch fight at the property auction. So yes, but they were pretty close before that, according to some reports. He may well have earned more "airmiles" had that not happened.
Moral amnesia when these guys get into power or something (Clinton anyway). Trump seems to have been that way for a lot longer. Wealth rather than "power " as such.
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@snowy said in Jeffrey Epstein:
He may well have earned more "airmiles" had that not happened
Not a good point. Unverifiable heresay.
I think we agree and Tim Dillon, ( quote from the comedian thread) might have summed up our position.
Someone’s protecting Prince Andrew,’ Dillon tells me. ‘I wouldn’t say it’s the Illuminati, but someone’s protecting Bill Clinton. I mean, anybody that had taken 20-plus flights on the plane of a human trafficker [Jeffrey Epstein] should be questioned, which I don’t believe he has been, by the FBI. Prince Andrew should be questioned, too.
‘If the rule of law is to mean anything, these people should be held to account for some very dubious behavior. Someone is protecting them, or someone is preventing that from happening. I don’t know who it is, but I don’t think it is an irrational or crazy belief that these people should be called to account for associating with someone who has destroyed the lives of countless women and children.’
Dillon does not — it goes without saying — believe Epstein committed suicide: ‘The guy was killed. I think it’s quite easy to keep someone alive. I think we’ve proven that. I think it’s very interesting that he was killed. I can’t for the life of me understand people who think that’s some kind of mere coincidence. I mean, this guy had some of the most damaging secrets on some of the most powerful people on Earth, and he ends up dying. To me, someone is preventing light being shed on this.’
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@kruse said in Jeffrey Epstein:
@no-quarter said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I still haven't come to terms with Bill Clinton spending so much time with Epstein in his plane and on his island, yet just continues on as if there's nothing amiss. Why isn't he being absolutely hauled over the coals and made to answer what the fuck he was doing.
Isn't there quite a list but.... I'm not sure why anybody would focus on ONLY Bill Clinton...
Possibly because Trump was also a frequent flyer, so a "don't ask, don't tell" policy would have made sense until recently... but probably a shitload of other people still in the system... so it's still a "yeah... let's let that hornet's nest lie"Clinton is just a really high profile (highest profile?) example of someone that still appears to have mainstream respect (I.E. mainstream media, talk shows, celebrities etc) that was a very frequent flier on Epstein's jet and visitor to his Island. Meaning at the very best he know what was going on, and more likely was taking part. But he gets no hard questions, no meaningful investigation into what the hell he was doing. Just makes you realise there's two worlds operating in parallel - ours and the so called elites.