The Education System
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<p>WIth pprenticeships - are there enough out there these days?</p>
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<p>Are there enough tradies that can take on apprentices? The cousin I mentioned above had to wait a year and do that course I mentioned at EIT.</p>
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<p>I don't know if there are enough tradies prepared to take on apprentices these days . It probably varies region to region and across the trades. Some trades like upholstery don't have a lot of people entering them from what I've been told.</p>
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<p>My past experience of employing three apprentices who have done those courses and worked with a few more is, the course makes them think they are further along towards a qualification than they actually are. Every single apprentice I've worked basically expected that they only had to show up every day for another couple of years and I'd just tell them one morning they were qualified. The truth is they all had three or more likely four years ahead of them still which kind of negates the point of the course a fair bit. When I broke the news to them about this they always protested and then I would ask them three or four questions that any qualified builder should know the answers to. None of them ever answered a single one, following it up with a few more usually got the point across. It would suck if you finished the course and then realised after a year of no income and a student loan that you didn't actually like working out in the weather etc , lots of guys I've worked with liked the idea of being a builder but they didn't enjoy the reality of it. Its probably the same for lots of jobs like vets, nurses etc.</p> -
<p>probably another reason why Tradies dont wanna take on apprentices...</p>
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<p>probably another reason why Tradies dont wanna take on apprentices...</p>
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<p>Thats gold .</p>
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<p>I have a theory that the sort of people who would have in the not to distant past found a repetitive boring job in a factory that provided them with a comfortable living before that job was outsourced to China are being steered towards building by careers advisors. Trouble is now we are licensed and have to provide warranties of up to 50 years no one wants these people , they seem to end up becoming roofers or painters. It's interesting to have a painting gang turn up and have two out of the three of them sporting home d ankle bracelets.</p> -
Sorry if this has been posted already:<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/07/the-craziest-demands-of-college-kids-in-2016.html">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/07/the-craziest-demands-of-college-kids-in-2016.html</a><br><br>
I feel so lucky to have 99% hard-working students who wouldn't know what the fuck a safe space is. A friend of mine takes care of the (primarily US) exchange students, and he has some fucking hilarious stories. <br><br>
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<p>That's leftard lunacy at its very best (worst?) gt12.</p>
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<p>Time for me to organise a safe place for white middle aged men. I think I'll call it the pub.</p> -
<p>I hear you brother.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gt12" data-cid="586132" data-time="1465545305"><p>Sorry if this has been posted already:<a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/07/the-craziest-demands-of-college-kids-in-2016.html">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/07/the-craziest-demands-of-college-kids-in-2016.html</a><br></p></blockquote>
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Barmy. I loved this bit:<br><br>
more than 1,300 Oberlin students signed a petition calling on the college to make “C†the lowest possible grade such that no student would be deemed “below average.†<br><br>
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More about leftards on campus <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/06/the-chilling-effect-of-fear/486338/'>http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/06/the-chilling-effect-of-fear/486338/</a>
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<p>jegga why are they leftards? Just because they act like entitled little snow flakes? I know people across the political spectrum who have kids that think the world should bend to their will. </p>
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<p>With all due respect you need to research the topic more. They are very much of the left side of the political spectrum., Even the liberal left admit that are getting annoyed. The liberal left have started referring to them as the regressive left.</p> -
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<p>jegga why are they leftards? Just because they act like entitled little snow flakes? I know people across the political spectrum who have kids that think the world should bend to their will. </p>
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<p>What BSG said, I can't imagine right leaning people demanding safe spaces and bleating about microaggressions. Agree entitlement crosses all political boundaries though,you only need to look at the recent rape case thats dominating the headlines and the affluenza cretin</p> -
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<p>What BSG said, I can't imagine right leaning people demanding safe spaces and bleating about microaggressions. Agree entitlement crosses all political boundaries though,you only need to look at the recent rape case thats dominating the headlines and the affluenza cretin</p>
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<p>I think either side can be pretty demanding. The difference is the whiny leftists will cry "You can't do that to me! I'm a victim!" while the shouty right will say "You can't do that to me! I'll show you!"</p> -
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<p>I think either side can be pretty demanding. The difference is the whiny leftists will cry "You can't do that to me! I'm a victim!" while the shouty right will say "You can't do that to me! I'll show you!"</p>
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<p>I am not sure anyone is arguing that any human cannot be demanding. It is the type and genesis of the demands that are the issue, Gandhi demanded things, so did Hitler, they were both demanding. But the methods and demands were the difference.</p>