Biggest Tool in World Sport
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@hydro11 That theory has been thrown out on this thread before. I'm not buying it.
I've met plenty of piston wristed gibbons before who clearly didn't suffer from depression or mental illness. Some of them famous, some of them think they are famous, and some of them just flat out nobodies.
Some people are just piston wristed gibbons, and Kyrgios seems happy to be labelled in this bucket
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@MajorRage said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@hydro11 That theory has been thrown out on this thread before. I'm not buying it.
I've met plenty of piston wristed gibbons before who clearly didn't suffer from depression or mental illness. Some of them famous, some of them think they are famous, and some of them just flat out nobodies.
Some people are just piston wristed gibbons, and Kyrgios seems happy to be labelled in this bucket
That's not really what I'm saying. Most people on here aren't criticising Kyrgios for saying mean things to Wawrinka. After all, people all over the internet say worse things about Kyrgios than Kyrgios ever said about Wawrinka. Case in point, his mum had to shut down her twitter account because she got so much abuse. Even on here, it's acceptable to call sportsmen we don't like fluffybunnies. We should not hold sportsmen to higher standards than we hold ourselves. Regardless, that isn't the main form of criticism Kyrgios is facing here.
The criticism on here seems to be in regards to Kyrgios not trying hard enough. From what I have read, Kyrgios did give 100% against Seppi but was under prepared and slightly injured. He didn't tank in that match. Kyrgios has tanked in the past and was justifiably suspended for it.
I would say that I don't think it can really be clear whether or not another person suffers from a mental illness. Regardless, mental illness is not an excuse for disregarding other people's feelings and any possible mental illness does not excuse the Wawrinka comments or some of his on-court demeanor such as swearing at officials. Nor is depression an excuse for deliberately losing. However, depression is an excuse for not being able to enjoy things you love, for being able to work hard or even for struggling to get up in the morning. Again, we don't know what Kyrgios has or doesn't have but he seems to have all the symptoms.
Kyrgios may or may not be a piston wristed gibbon but if he is a piston wristed gibbon it isn't because he doesn't train hard or because he doesn't like tennis. I suppose you would have to be in tennis circles to know for sure. I think you are correct that Kyrgios doesn't mind being called a piston wristed gibbon.
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@hydro11 said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Might be a high bar but I always apply the Allblack test to sportsmen, i.e. how I would view them if they were an Allblack. I think it's fair to say that a piston wristed gibbon with an attitude like Kyrgios wouldn't get near selection. Just because he's open about being a cockhead isn't something to admire or "a breath of fresh air" and I can never get my head around those defending him for this.
I heard an interview with former French tennis star Henry Leconte and he said that Kyrgios will regret this later in life because time goes so fast and your career will be over before you know it.
He's literally holding a lotto ticket and he claims it bores him. Maybe the dickhead should spend some time in an office or a factory at the pay level most 21 year olds get. Then he might discover that his awful boring existence isn't so bad after all. Twat.
But he isn't an All Black. He is an individual representing himself. He doesn't have teammates or a history to live up to. He just has his name and he can do with that as he wishes. He is a contractor and not an employee. I presume only the grandslams are forced to invite him?
Has Kyrgios actually said that he has an awful, boring existence? I just think he has said he doesn't particularly like doing tennis training. I never hear any "woe is me" from Kyrgios. I don't follow everything he says admittedly.
It's pretty arrogant as a NZ rugby fan to assume that 'piston wristed gibbons' haven't graced our national team on numerous occasions. I know it's all the rage for Hansen and co to promote the team culture etcetc but I can bet any number of disruptive fuckheads have played for the All Blacks.
Also take a guy like James Ryan who retired at a very young age. Who knows what went on behind the scenes there? Is it our right as fans to have a go at him for 'throwing it all away?' Or to have a go at 'lazy' players like Sione Lauaki, Neemia Tialata etc?
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@MN5 said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Also take a guy like James Ryan who retired at a very young age. Who knows what went on behind the scenes there?
Three knee surgeries?
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@antipodean said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@MN5 said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Also take a guy like James Ryan who retired at a very young age. Who knows what went on behind the scenes there?
Three knee surgeries?
Oh. Ha. Not what I heard, I thought he gave it all away for a law career.
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@MN5 difference is, if they were piston wristed gibbons, it certainly wasn't public knowledge they were.
Just a few random guys on the internet speculating about what they heard from a mate....even then, those are far and few between, and usually of guys that didnt spend a huge amount of time in the Black jersey either, so read into that as well
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Aaron Smith's willy, surely?
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Gayle has already been nominated, so I guess we'll need pics to compare. I believe Smith has a dick-pick in circulation already, and I'm sure @MN5 can help with Gayle.
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@No-Quarter said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Gayle has already been nominated, so I guess we'll need pics to compare. I believe Smith has a dick-pick in circulation already, and I'm sure @MN5 can help with Gayle.
I'll do some googling and get back to you. Does anyone know how to delete browser historys?