Crusaders v Blues



  • Yep McGahan is a bit of a surprise, though I thought West was good last week without being outstanding, same as Hall. I think maybe I would want a look at a few players early too.
    I think West was much better than Hall, West had to tidy up a lot of passes from behind and toes



  • I'm not too concerned if we don't get up tomorrow.We never win in Chch for starters and I personally would be targetting the next two games against the Hurricanes and Reds before the bye. I didn't originally think the changes were a good idea but the more I think about it, I think it's a good time to do it.



  • Not sure what to think with changing the halves , 
     
    I know tana is his own man and has his reasons , but it feels a little Kirwan like

    Pat Lam liked to rotate his halves too  :whistle:
     
    Kees Meeuws on the breakdown last night reckoned that Tana is saving his best teams for the home games.
     
    Sees getting the crowds back at Eden park a priority. I quite like that attitude, it's what Wayne Smith and Robbie Deans did at canterbury and crusaders when they took over.



  • I don't think that the Blues target is to win the comp this year. As long as the players are on board with that then fine.
     
    What they are possibly trying to do is target specific games and set their KPIs by that. Home games are an obvious target.



  • I don't think that the Blues target is to win the comp this year. As long as the players are on board with that then fine.
     
    What they are possibly trying to do is target specific games and set their KPIs by that. Home games are an obvious target.

    And I think getting the fans behind the team is a big priority also. I don't follow the blues as closely as others, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's got the players more involved in community work etc too.



  • And I think getting the fans behind the team is a big priority also. I don't follow the blues as closely as others, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's got the players more involved in community work etc too.

    They've always done that as well. It is the fickle Auckland crowds that they need to play up to.
    Get some home wins, gets the crowds in (no one likes to go to games when their team loses) and you have a better chance of capturing/ retaining the good players.
    I'm not saying that the guys tasked each week won't be aiming for a win, just that there will likely be some longer term strategies playing out as well.
    It could also simply be a case of the coaches identifying a greater need for squad competition to push the top layer higher. If that meant a promise of giving players a shot in the early rounds then it is a means to an end.



  • Yes I agree Blues have made a genuine effort to connect with their fans. Speaking of the Blues and the community they ran their first "Blues in the 'Burbs" night last night at Takapuna

    How often do kids get to try out their skills with their Blues heroes? 
     
    Well this month they have their chance, with players from the Super Rugby franchise fraternising with the public at Blues in the 'Burbs events across the city.
    Blues coach Tana Umaga says the team wants to reach out more to its communities.
     
    "In the busy times for our club in the Super Rugby Championship, it is sometimes challenging to find time to spend with our fans," Umaga says.
     
    "Our team has been working so hard in pre-season and will continue to work really hard every day. But at the same time we want to spend time in our communities, the places we live, and at the rugby clubs that helped us in this game."
     
    March 9 – College Rifles Rugby Football Club, 33 Haast St, Remuera.
    March 15 – Papatoetoe Rugby Football Club, Sutton Crescent, Papatoetoe.
    March 29 – Waitakere Rugby Club, under The Trusts Arena, Henderson.



  • Great back row for the Blues (Kaino, Gibson, Luatua) against a very average Crusaders' one : Reid is clearly not in form, Boys is a journeyman and Taufua just not big enough for a Nr.6.



  • Great back row for the Blues (Kaino, Gibson, Luatua) against a very average Crusaders' one : Reid is clearly not in form, Boys is a journeyman and Taufua just not big enough for a Nr.6.

    Clearly after 1 game? Surely players should get a couple of weeks to actually show something before having their form judged.
     
    Interesting the changes to the Blues, Particularly 9/10. Hopefully this is 'giving the guys a crack' and not the start of the chopping and changing that has been an issue at the Blues for years.



  • Clearly after 1 game? Surely players should get a couple of weeks to actually show something before having their form judged.
    Interesting the changes to the Blues, Particularly 9/10. Hopefully this is 'giving the guys a crack' and not the start of the chopping and changing that has been an issue at the Blues for years.

    It's all good, Kaino was anonymous last week so is also out of form.....



  • Pat Lam liked to rotate his halves too  :whistle:
     
    Kees Meeuws on the breakdown last night reckoned that Tana is saving his best teams for the home games.
     
    Sees getting the crowds back at Eden park a priority. I quite like that attitude, it's what Wayne Smith and Robbie Deans did at canterbury and crusaders when they took over.

    While all that is fair enough , 
     
    I thought there was possibly the best opportunity  to do what no Blues team has done for a long time , and beat the Crusaders away , 
     
    That would have got people talking and helped the crowds for when they return , 
     
    The Crusaders do look more vulnerable than we are used to , but im going to stop short of writing them off , we have been here before and they prove you wrong time and time again



  • The Crusaders do look more vulnerable than we are used to , but im going to stop short of writing them off , we have been here before and they prove you wrong time and time again

    Considering that they regularly lose their opening game, last week was no big surprise.



  • While all that is fair enough , 
     
    I thought there was possibly the best opportunity  to do what no Blues team has done for a long time , and beat the Crusaders away , 
     
    That would have got people talking and helped the crowds for when they return , 
     
    The Crusaders do look more vulnerable than we are used to , but im going to stop short of writing them off , we have been here before and they prove you wrong time and time again

    Agree 100%. If I was Umaga I'd have Faumauina and Ioane starting for sure. Plus the 9 and 10 from last week.
     
    I think the crusaders are there for the taking



  • Agree 100%. If I was Umaga I'd have Faumauina and Ioane starting for sure. Plus the 9 and 10 from last week.
    I think the crusaders are there for the taking

    Given the loosies are JK, Gibson and Luatua starting Ioane from the bench is understandable.



  • Given the loosies are JK, Gibson and Luatua starting Ioane from the bench is understandable.

    I would start him ahead of Luatua.
     
    I don't think he would have missed that tackle close to the line last week.



  • I would start him ahead of Luatua.

    Me too.
     
    Seems like the hottest prospect in NZ rugby, right now.



  • One win and Tana is desperate to show that he is master tactician with all the changes.



  • You should read the thread for the reason



  • I think Ioane off the bench for now is best. He's still transitioning back from 7s and I think his body shape is currently more for 7s than 15s. Hopefully he looks even better off the bench this week.



  • The Blues have the makings of a decent team but the coaches have been a big hinderence and it looks like another guy is on an ego trip. Why change a winning team?



  • The Blues have the makings of a decent team but the coaches have been a big hinderence and it looks like another guy is on an ego trip. Why change a winning team?

    WHy don't you read the thread to find out?



  • They've always done that as well. It is the fickle Auckland crowds that they need to play up to.
    Get some home wins, gets the crowds in (no one likes to go to games when their team loses) and you have a better chance of capturing/ retaining the good players.
    I'm not saying that the guys tasked each week won't be aiming for a win, just that there will likely be some longer term strategies playing out as well.
    It could also simply be a case of the coaches identifying a greater need for squad competition to push the top layer higher. If that meant a promise of giving players a shot in the early rounds then it is a means to an end.

    Blues went 14 and 10 at home under Kirwan, at Eden Park they went 13 and 7 . They won 2 and lost 22 games away from home over that period. Kirwan did more than anyone to get the team connecting with the fans. He just didn't win enough games. Tana has already said the team won't make the playoffs this year. That's understandable. Winning at home simply won't be enough to get crowds back because the Blues always did this.



  • WHy don't you read the thread to find out?

    then he wouldnt be able to throw out the rancid bait and just make white noise?



  • Good conditions for rugby.



  • Happy 2016 all!
     
    Didn't get to watch any of the 1st round...as was camping with my better half and the kids.
     
    stoked to see the games this week.
    Picking a few upsets this round.... and I believe the Blues might be able to tip the Saders over here in chch....



  • Smart by Luatua



  • That Billy Guyton is playing a bit shit. Bad passes and bad options.Blues front row clearly outclassed.



  • That Billy Guyton is playing a bit shit. Bad passes and bad options.
    Blues front row clearly outclassed.

    they are getting smoked.... whats the weight of both packs?



  • Wow. Puts the scrums last week into perspective. The Blues had nothing.



  • wow my 1st "feeling" of the year looks bung...
     
    Blues looking like the class of 2015 at the moment



  • I thnk Parsons is a bit average, but this fella makes him look like an AB.... :think:



  • My god. Blues set piece has gone to pants.



  • Expect some changes after half time oranges.



  • That's why you assert early dominance Jeff 🙂



  • Deliberate ploy by the Crusaders to knock on to have a scrum.



  • Blues kickers not looking flash either.. which is not helping--- exit plans are not being executed and they are pinning themselves in their own 22 ...



  • What the fuck was that?



  • ugly



  • try time again.......
     
    Blues back rowers seem very high to me... i know the pressure is on the front row... but that will not help them



  • Blues back to playing as they have for the past decade....need to 'slow it down' and 'earn the right to go wide'


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