Hatiest teams



  • The anti exponents songs - who hates who the most
     
    Mods can we have a poll of hatiest International team?  Can do other leagues separately as well
     
    Might be interesting and therapeutic
     
    And those belonging to the "winning" nation will not see it as a slur, rather a badge of honour as is the tribal nature of supporting sports teams.
     
    Nominees would be all RWC qualified nations I'd imagine, or perhaps Tier 1 only
     
    Put England at the top of the poll please 😉
     
    Yes it's just a coincidence that I've thought of this just as the big northern hemisphere game of the year is at half time and has about 10 minutes left to become interesting 🙂



  • I support two teams the All Blacks and anyone playing Australia, but that gets hard when England play Australia,



  • Used to be Ireland, now they seem to have dialled back their hilariously misplaced arrogance a fair bit so its time to move on. An Eddie Jones coached England seems like it has massive potential to be my hatiest team, especially if they keep winning.



  • Dont hate Poms and dont hate Aussies , 
     
    But when it comes to rugby,  England and Australia are the teams I probably enjoy beating most , 
     
    And maybe its the little brother type thing to both counties



  • TBF I dont really hate any other teams right now...England are not good enough (or arrogant) right now, so dont attract the attention, while the Aussies seem to have a fair few good buggars in thier team, is hard to hate them. 
     
    SA are just hard buggars, cant hate them cos of thier conspiracy loving fans, outside of that, no one else deserves a mention :fishing:  (does that help add to AB fans being arrogant)



  • TBF I dont really hate any other teams right now...England are not good enough (or arrogant) right now, so dont attract the attention, while the Aussies seem to have a fair few good buggars in thier team, is hard to hate them. 
     
    SA are just hard buggars, cant hate them cos of thier conspiracy loving fans, outside of that, no one else deserves a mention :fishing:  (does that help add to AB fans being arrogant)

    Yeah Im a bit like that actually , 
     
    My dislike for England was at its strongest around the Woodward era , and I used to despise Gregan ( although I can clearly see now he is a good fella) and the rest of his team in that era , but now , not so much



  • S'funny how we all seem to hate the teams that give us the most grief, particularly when we we feel we don't deserve it.
     
    Teams I hate = none really.
     
    Fans I hate = most nations as usually they give out so much shit either when they win or alternatively when they lose.
     
    I am 100% sure England fans are not like this though.



  • I fucking hate the Reds. Shit team, crap organisation, deadshits everywhere. And their fans are deluded whingers with an unjustified sense of entitlement.
    Other than that it's fans not teams.
    Strangely enough, even without being a massive league fan there are several NRL teams i despise, headed up by Manly, the Bulldogs and the Roosters.
    And fuck the New England Patriots



  • Australia + Eddie Jones = hatiest
    England + Woodward = hatiest
     
    Therefore England + Eddie Jones must get real close.



  • Non internationals? Any team from Canterbury. Just because.



  • been the saffas for me for the last while. boring shit rugby while steyn was there: 10 man rugby + intercepts by habana is a shit sandwich, drop-kicks instead of going for tries, and then you had guys like botha being dirty as fuck on top of that. then basically trying to continue that but with pollard, who deserves better. also arrogant enough to let their guard down and get done by the japanese (and argies before that to a much lesser extent).
    hopefully they start playing some decent footy cause they've got some guys that can play a bit.



  • Non internationals? Any team from Canterbury. Just because.

    When you because do you mean?............



  • Internationally ... probably England. Some of their fans are ok (the ones on here). But the Woodward era, us losing to them at Twickers and the entitlement issues of their press and fanbois within the press make them my least liked team. I blame the media 🙂 .
    Which brings me to the Waratahs. For as long as I can remember the Australian rugby press has been the NSW rugby press. So every year they spouted reasons why it was going to their year (obviously where Neuter got it from) with nothing to back it up. Especially results wise. Hence hatiest.



  • Woodward's England, and any team coached by him.
     
    Australia.



  • Just watching a replay of the England Wales game now and my vote is cemented. Whenever I hear those English fans singing that slave song it makes me hate their team.



  • The Wallabies. I feel awful saying it since I live in Australia, love the country and would happily lay down my life for it. Myself and my kids are Aus citizens (they're Wallaby supporters). But the 86 Bledisloe and 91 RWC scarred me for life. Brutal insults at school may also have played a part.
    I also hate France for 99 and 2007. Once again very unfair, because their supporters are great. Was dry humping the sofa and yelling allez les blues during the most recent encounter.



  • England, mostly thanks to Woodward and the English media
    Jakeball teams (Brumbies and Stormers)
    Waratahs
    Canterbury
     
    I'd say the Saders too but they're just my least liked NZ team. If they're in a final vs a non-NZ team, I'll cheer for them.



  • Definitely Saracens (or Saffacens as they are often known) and have been for years.
    Have a SA Coach, and actively pusue a lot of SA players.
    But actually started when I used to live in North London, (coincidentally Michael Lynagh played for them)
    Not only are they an arrogant club who now comprise a number of England players, but the fans wear those tiresome fez caps.
    Didn't help that one of my now ex's used to go out with a player either.



  • Italy. 17 years in the 6 nations and they aren't much better, any Tier 2 nation would kill for that sort of regular top flight competition. Now they're forming a road block for the tournament expanding more. Parrise is their only player who looks to visibly give a shit.



  • Definitely Saracens (or Saffacens as they are often known) and have been for years.
    Have a SA Coach, and actively pusue a lot of SA players.
    But actually started when I used to live in North London, (coincidentally Michael Lynagh played for them)
    Not only are they an arrogant club who now comprise a number of England players, but the fans wear those tiresome fez caps.
    Didn't help that one of my now ex's used to go out with a player either.

    Agree with a lot of this but should point out that Mark McCall (head coach) is an Ulsterman.



  • Agree with a lot of this but should point out that Mark McCall (head coach) is an Ulsterman.

    Yeah should have said current coach an Ulsterman with SA leanings.....
    But I was actually thinking of when Brendan Venter arrived to coach them, no coincidence he started the whole SA thing,,,



  • Any team coached by Deans.  :fishing:



  • Forget hatiest teams, my new second favourite team is good old Scotland  :yes:



  • As M4L has brought non international teams into the equation and Sammy C and others have proudly declared they care more for franchise and province teams than NZ - Canterbury and the Crusaders top my list (it would be funny if anyone was surprised by this).

    Non internationals? Any team from Canterbury. Just because.

    I know the 'because'. It was 1999 early in the Super 12 season when I had the pleasure to meet a bloke from Canterbury at a party in some suburb of north London (I can't remember which) who proceeded regale all and sundry about the greatness of Canterbury/Crusaders rugby. Now, Canterbury had been pretty average at NPC level for a few years but that was irrelevant, as was the fact that the Crusaders were a team cobbled together from other provinces and blended in with homegrown guys. Nope, Canterbury was the greatest team to ever walk the face of the earth, the late 80s/early 90s Auckland team were merely pretenders. As the night wore on I was the only one dumb enough to continue to engage with him until I too finally ran out of patience. My memories of chuckling over the delusions of Grant Patterson in the mid 90s - every letter to the editor of the Rugby News would mention every starting Cantab player and how they should be an AB - were replaced by the cold hard fact that he wasn't just an outlier but that there were actually a bunch of dudes who thought this way.
     
    I saw him around the traps for most of that year and then have never seen him again, I could only image how insufferable he would have been after the 9th victory, but there have been various online personas that I thought could conceivably have been him (Phooey, Canerbry, AC, Real Crusader, lately Sammy c has been showing his bonafides after luring us in with some level headedness when he/she first arrived).

    Used to be Ireland, now they seem to have dialled back their hilariously misplaced arrogance a fair bit so its time to move on. An Eddie Jones coached England seems like it has massive potential to be my hatiest team, especially if they keep winning.

    Still Ireland for me - BODgate, and the arrogance combined with Schmidt keep them on the list with England and Aussie. Although even those two teams are less hateable these days.
     
    I'm still fond of the Saffas, although some of their online fans make it a bit difficult sometimes.

    Any team coached by Deans.  :fishing:

    Actually, on that note, I went from looking forward to how the Sunwolves would go, then they named their coach, now I couldn't give two shits.



  • I dont hate any team really. I think that is born out of supporters arrogance though, we simply havent lost to a team consustently enough to 'hate' them. Most of them just have my pity nowdays.
    When Aus gets the Bledisloe and we get called chokers or some such.. then I will probably start disliking some teams again. But currently... meh.. we know we are the best... they know we are the best.
     
    I mainly dislike teams that are a threat or have won something I wanted my team to win. Hasnt really happened in quite awhile.



  • As I get older, I get more mellow and don't really care to waste time on sporting hatred now.  Hell, I don't even bother winding up Liverpool fans anymore.
     
    If I had to hate somebody though it would probably be the Tahs or the Wallabies.  I guess my Australia chip hasn't died away as quick as the others.



  • The Australian cricket team circa 2015.



    1. Springboks - ingrained into me that they are still "cheating, dirty, filth"
    2. The McGrath/Warne era Australian Cricket team - even though there are a couple of cricketers in there that I liked to watch play, I just couldn't stand them as a team.
    3. French rugby team - hate watching their negative style of playing.
    4. Reds - like M4L, hated them back in the 80s and even more so now.
    5. Chiefs - need I say more....


  • Any team that's not New Zealand or Scotland



  • Fans more than particular teams.



  • Fans more than particular teams.

    Agree with that , some Irish fans during the " golden generation " years tended to be nauseating mitigated only their teams reamings at the hands of the abs after talking them up relentlessly . Aussie fans were pretty bad in the early 2000s but they were mostly twats who jumped on the bandwagon in 1998 and departed the scene in 2003 or so.



  • I've heard quite a lot about the arrogance and hubris of the "Golden Generation" Irish fans but to be honest I've not witnessed it much. For sure they were in general a lot happier about their team and performances but IMO rarely went over the top. Now this may just be because I don't get out much and tend not to visit the more rabid rugby related sites, but I've never had a problem with our friends from over the water.
     
    The ones from over the Severn - well that's totally different.  :fishing:



  • I've heard quite a lot about the arrogance and hubris of the "Golden Generation" Irish fans but to be honest I've not witnessed it much. For sure they were in general a lot happier about their team and performances but IMO rarely went over the top. Now this may just be because I don't get out much and tend not to visit the more rabid rugby related sites, but I've never had a problem with our friends from over the water.
     
    The ones from over the Severn - well that's totally different.  :fishing:

    I think for me it's been more the posters encountered here, or Irish fans encountered fleetingly in real life. The ones I know or share time with down the rugby club couldn't be better or more grounded.



  • I've heard quite a lot about the arrogance and hubris of the "Golden Generation" Irish fans but to be honest I've not witnessed it much. For sure they were in general a lot happier about their team and performances but IMO rarely went over the top. Now this may just be because I don't get out much and tend not to visit the more rabid rugby related sites, but I've never had a problem with our friends from over the water.
     
    The ones from over the Severn - well that's totally different.  :fishing:

    It was on the more rabid sites, though the occasional jackass showed up here. The hubris was something to behold, as was the shrill reaction when the occasional  sh troll would say something like "when I see Ireland slam the 6n it makes me wonder just how shit England and France are at the moment". I wonder that too but I wouldn't bother actually posting it just to get a reaction . The irish regulars here are nothing like those clowns though.



  • Agree with that , some Irish fans during the " golden generation " years tended to be nauseating mitigated only their teams reamings at the hands of the abs after talking them up relentlessly . Aussie fans were pretty bad in the early 2000s but they were mostly twats who jumped on the bandwagon in 1998 and departed the scene in 2003 or so.

    I agree with this, but I'm the first to admit it's due to my own experiences, which many others won't have experienced.  That being an Irish Mafia in HK who were on the whole, a bunch of idiots, and the reaction from many of them after being knocked out in 2007.
     
    Just about all Irish I've met since then though, have been bloody lovely.  So I've had to rescind that view somewhat.  They are still a mafia though.



  • I agree with this, but I'm the first to admit it's due to my own experiences, which many others won't have experienced.  That being an Irish Mafia in HK who were on the whole, a bunch of idiots, and the reaction from many of them after being knocked out in 2007.
     
    Just about all Irish I've met since then though, have been bloody lovely.  So I've had to rescind that view somewhat.  They are still a mafia though.

    Someone here had the misfortune to be seated with them at the 2007 q final and they apparently behaved like utter piston wristed gibbons even though the game didn't involve their team. A dribbling arseclown posted here last year and said we deserved it because of what happened to BOD, that was news to me and I guess everyone else here.



  • I agree with this, but I'm the first to admit it's due to my own experiences, which many others won't have experienced.  That being an Irish Mafia in HK who were on the whole, a bunch of idiots, and the reaction from many of them after being knocked out in 2007.
     
    Just about all Irish I've met since then though, have been bloody lovely.  So I've had to rescind that view somewhat.  They are still a mafia though.

    It's called the Murphia not mafia.   🙂





  • "Sickening arrogance"? Bit much jeg
    But i tend to think he's setting himself up to fail a bit.
    Lancaster's England beat the All Blacks ...



  • I found it a bit odd that all of the questions were about the All Blacks when their 3 match tour is against the Wallabies, who knocked England out of the RWC on their way to the final. Beating the Wallabies at home is going to be a fucking huge test for them.


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