We've got the best cricketer in the world says Wisden...
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<p>They do the "5 cricketers of the year" as well. Jeetan Patel was named as one of the 5 cricketers of the year in 2015. Take from that what you will...</p>
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<p>Widen still thinks it's the 80s, and County cricket means something?</p>
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<p>They do the "5 cricketers of the year" as well. Jeetan Patel was named as one of the 5 cricketers of the year in 2015. Take from that what you will...</p>
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<p>... that he was stellar in their championship, and they are an English-centric publication?</p>
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<p>I reckon Jeets was bloody good and had the misfortune to be around when Dan Vettori was captaining, coaching and selecting the side.</p> -
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<p>... that he was stellar in their championship, and they are an English-centric publication?</p>
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<p>I reckon Jeets was bloody good and had the misfortune to be around when Dan Vettori was captaining, coaching and selecting the side.</p>
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<p>.......and being a much better bowler and batsman, most people consider those qualities reasonably important in a cricketer.</p> -
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<p>... that he was stellar in their championship, and they are an English-centric publication?</p>
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<p>I reckon Jeets was bloody good and had the misfortune to be around when Dan Vettori was captaining, coaching and selecting the side.</p>
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<p>I've always found it a bit of a mystery that he was <em>so</em> good in County cricket, but largely very poor for NZ. Probably says more about the quality of County cricket nowadays?</p> -
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<p>I've always found it a bit of a mystery that he was <em>so</em> good in County cricket, but largely very poor for NZ. Probably says more about the quality of County cricket nowadays?</p>
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<p>Comparing him to Vettori is like comparing Daniel Braid to Richie McCaw though.</p> -
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<p>I've always found it a bit of a mystery that he was <em>so</em> good in County cricket, but largely very poor for NZ. Probably says more about the quality of County cricket nowadays?</p>
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<p>He's been so good in CC as he got older. Most spinners get better with age. Add to that he was playing week in - week out. Which helps hugely.</p>
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<p>The bit that always amazes about Patel being slagged is the idea that after going overseas, getting good coaching, playing consistantly & getting more experienced is not conceivable to many that he's a better bowler than he was.</p>
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<p>The 2 tier setup in the CC does mean the second tier is probably not that much better than the NZ scene. Tier one is WAY above it.</p>
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<p>That said Neil Wagner helped himself to 6 in Div 1 on the weekend -</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946811.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/946811.html</a></p>
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<p>But he really only has 4 or 5 week of Wagner friendly conditions (it swings around like feck in April / May). He'll take 30 at 15 1st half of the season & 15 @ 40 second half</p> -
<p>Needs repeating I think</p>
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<p>Wisden's 5 cricketers of the year are based on performances during the English season. A player can only be awarded this once.</p>
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<p>Wisden's leading cricketer of the year is based on all cricket in the previous calendar year (started in 2004 or so).</p> -
<p>A bit off topic, but I saw Southee bowled well last night for Mumbai.</p>
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<p>0 for 25 off four overs in a match where 170 was underpar.</p>
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<p>what I noticed was that he seems to be swinging it again.</p>
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<p>Is it as simple as the fact that Shane Bond is the Mumbai bowling coach? </p> -
<p>Yes.</p>