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@Wally said in Favourite AB tests: I’ve read various versions of this. The coach of that team (Mcphail?) was quoted as saying “Kevin reckoned he never hit anyone but his hands were so swollen the next day he could hardly hold a beer”. He may have done the physical damage unseen. Meads tells of St Wilson of Whineray (also a champion heavyweight boxer) sorting out opposition forwards and emerging from the scrum or ruck with a halo round his head while said opposition forward emerging seriously groggy

@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Scotland v Samoa (Pool A): @Billy-Webb said in RWC: Scotland v Samoa (Pool A): @African-Monkey said in RWC: Scotland v Samoa (Pool A): Lame way for Samoa to go out of the cup, and to think I gave them a shot before the game started haha. Scotland did what they had to tonight, but on that performance, I'd back the Japanese to beat them. @antipodean said in RWC: Scotland v Samoa (Pool A): Samoa looked like they hadn't assembled before this week. Made Scotland look competent and dangerous! I'd also backed Samoa to have a shot today. But they just didn't seem to pitch up. Was that the faint hope of a Springbok nation not wanting to play Ireland in a QF? Not really. It was more a case of making for an interesting pool. That pool is already a shoot-out, a Samoan victory would have made it even more so. If we get Ireland in the QF so be it. Those knock-out games are going to be tightly contested, never mind who you face.

Watching Semi Radradra play, worth any money for the ticket. Actually, another Fijian in Kerevi is probably 2nd behind him in the "watchability" stakes.

Italy played well in attack but boy they were camped offside in defence. Canadian rugby is in a hole and it’s hard to see them returning to their competitive state from the 90s.

Also posted in the "Judidial Happenings" thread: England centre Piers Francis cleared to play - citing not upheld England centre Piers Francis attended a disciplinary hearing on 29 September having been cited for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (dangerous high tackle) in England’s Rugby World Cup 2019 match against USA on 26 September. The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Nigel Hampton QC (New Zealand), joined by former international coach Frank Hadden (Scotland) and former international player John Langford (Australia). The player admitted that he had committed an act of foul play but denied that it reached the red card threshold. Having considered all the angles of the incident, together with evidence from the player and submissions from his legal counsel, the panel determined that the act ought to have resulted in a yellow card on-field. Since the threshold for upholding a citing is ‘red card’, the Committee did not uphold the citing and the player is free to play again immediately. The Committee followed the High Tackle Sanction Framework (HTSF) in order to make its decision. The player accepted that it was a high tackle that made contact with the head of the opposition ball carrier. He also accepted that a high degree of danger was present. Following the HTSF, this results in a starting point of a red card. The Committee then considered whether mitigating factors should result in the sanction being decreased. The Committee decided that there was significant and sufficient mitigation to be found: * in the sudden change of height by the USA player immediately before contact. It was only at the time of that sudden change that the clear line of sight factor (against mitigation) came in to play and could become of relevance; and that line of sight factor, therefore, was somewhat limited in its application, and the weight to be given to it; * in that the Player, being in control of the tackle, attempted to avoid the opponent’s head by making a definite attempt to change his own height and his body position; * in the Player’s initial contact being with his own head on the ball carrier’s left shoulder (and which initial contact absorbed a large degree of force), with the Player’s left shoulder then slipping up to make indirect and minor contact to the ball carrier’s head, causing no apparent injury. The Committee weighed up the factors for and against mitigation and on the balance of probabilities, decided that the mitigating factors outweighed the factors against mitigation and so the appropriate on-field sanction was a yellow card. The citing was therefore not upheld. https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/490289

@Snowy said in Hansen needs his head read: @Billy-Webb said in Hansen needs his head read: @Snowy said in Hansen needs his head read: @canefan said in Hansen needs his head read: Once we are out the tourney is over for me. I'm not quite that extreme but Wayne Barnes ruined rugby for me in some ways. I'm not convinced that it was all above board either. Substitute Wayne Barnes for Bryce Lawrence in a certain QF in 2011 and we're rowing the same boat. My view on that is a little slanted. My ex neighbours brother's name was Bryce Lawrence (not the referee). The old bloke (70+) received death threat calls in the middle of the night from SA fans going off their head. He died not long after, was going to happen anyway but pretty f'd up. Probably what stops me from giving Wayne a call even now. Wow. That's seriously messed up and uncalled for. Even such a call to the ref Bryce would be just completely f'd up. Being pissed off is one thing. Making phone calls like that is just wrong.

Fun fact: Siale Piutau and Kieran Read played in the same Counties Under 16's Rep team.

@act-crusader said in Bledisloe II: @gunner said in Bledisloe II: @akan004 said in Bledisloe II: @pakman This might be a controversial call but I believe Laulala has overtaken Franks as our no 1 tighthead. I think he is at least as good as Franks as a scrummager and is a lot better around the park. If they select Laulala ahead of Franks when he returns, it will be interesting to see if they choose to go with Franks off the bench or discard him from the 23 all together as there are other players who offer more impact when they come on. Hasn’t the guy been injured for 12 months, so how does he suddenly leap frog Franks? The same way Ngatai became our best 2nd 5 after Nonu left.... Playing for the chiefs?

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Boks: Second half thoughts: Again, Boks weren't too bad for first 30. In third quarter ABs scored in pretty much the only time they got into SB 22. At 58 Boks replace TH and hooker. Their scrum under the pump from then on. Three successive penalties, which dissipated any momentum they gained. Lineout not much better. Lima coming on got the AB backs humming. Some nice touches from BB outside centre. At 74 Pollard bad miss on ALB and Lima under sticks. Little resistance from there. To me, Boks can stay with ABs for reasonable periods, but the pace at which we play eventually gets them to 'overheat' mentally (and physically), at which point decision making lets them down. ABs absolutely ruthless in such situations. I think their Super set up this year, with only Lions playing dynamic rugby and too many dud teams has meant the players simply aren't used to extended periods of making decisions at speed. In contrast ABs have had benefit of many NZ Super derbies, which are probably second tier nation test standard. Until and unless they can get their Super set up sorted can only see Boks are playing for second. With their huge talent base we're all the poorer for this. The new Super format will be a hell of a lot better for SA, and all the more so if Jaguares can reach anything like their potential:http://allblacks.com/News/31458/home-derbies-to-kick-off-super-rugby-2018

@kiwiinmelb said in Score prediction ABs v Lions #1: its interesting because the scores here are pretty close to what I was thinking , us by about 2 tries , close most of the game , we get away near the end 30 - 18 yes, yes, and yes

@Crash said in Highlanders vs Chiefs: Fekitoa's attack just didn't go anywhere. He always seemed to run straight into contact' A little credit to the Chiefs is due there. They shut down his space very well.

@RaGe_X said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch: @Damo said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch: @broughie said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch: @mariner4life you mean those not picked because of quotas or injury? I think the quota thing is overdone. On another forum the question was asked who was picked on race and should not be there and there was only one player identified (reserve hooker Bongi), and even he had been dropped for the game against the AB's. Arguably he wasn't a quota player but a project player they were hoping to get some experience There really aren't many (if any) players who are disadvantaged due to the quota system. Does anyone else know of any player in the Boks who is there on race and not on merit? De Allende has had a terrible season with the Lions Center outplaying him all season. Oupa Mohoje is another quota player. More importantly however is the fact that implementing quotas means that you will not attract top coaching talent. This is why our Bok attacking coach is this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mzwandile_Stick CV: 2013 Eastern Province U21(assistant) 2014–2015 Eastern Province Kings (Vodacom Cup head coach) -Vodacom cup is one tier below Currie Cup 2014–2015 Eastern Province U19 (head coach) 2016 Kings (assistant) 2016–present South Africa (assistant) The problem with selecting quota's (other than the obvious of keeping out more talented players) is that they then clog up the development of up and coming talent ie: Malcolm Marx cannot get a go off the bench because of Bongi keeping up the numbers. The point I was making earlier in this thread is that the All Blacks are the best team on this planet, and these policies are not helping us compete. I agree completely. The quotas are killing SA rugby, not just at the top level. Without a doubt it would be ABs/SA 1 and 2 in the world with the talent available in SA. Must be tough work supporting them at the moment.

Yeah, but they were playing the three best teams in the world. insert smiley face So England ranked 3?

[quote name='Paekakboyz']A follow up video of the Franks bro's and Crossfit [video=youtube;spOXAnv8qv4] How good was that? Woohoo yeah yeah. Just makes me want to go out and train... and smash something!!!

Early morning workout today. Plenty of stretching and warmup activity to get things going. Push press lifting then set the watch at 15mins to do: 30x BB thrusters, 500m row. Was a struggle but first attempt totals were 66 thrusters and 1K row. Followed that up with some DB bench press and BW Bulgarian split squats. Stretching and planks to finish things up

[quote name='ACT Crusader']A couple of half decent instructional vids. The 2nd one it appears he has the bar a little too far back, but still siome good tips [URL] [URL] Cheers mate, found some of that was helpful.

Hey Duluth - the deads aren't too bad, and funnily enough adjusting my breathing has helped me over the last few months with those. However the BB rows are something I've never really done before so in sets 6,7,8 its been a real struggle and have only been able to do at most 6 reps in those sets. The bent over close grip row motion doesn't feel that natural to me and the two days I have done them thus far have never really felt I was in any sort of decent rhythm. So that is my first priority I guess. I'm watching quite a bit of instructional video and even had my old PT yesterday give me a couple of tips while he was working out. So I did Day 1 again yesterday and upped by 5kg on the bench press warmup sets and 4x4s. Also upped a bit on the Lat pulldowns. Maintained weight on the bb rows. Off to do some legs today...

Hey Toddy - I've tried that 300 workout and didn't get close. Its the pullups that get me. But one exercise that I love from that workout that I do pretty full on at least once a week are the Floor Wipers. The '300' workout recommends 135lbs (about 60kgs), which took some time to work up to, but now I'm doing a set of 20 (ie 40 movements) with 70kgs. Its a hell of an exercise and if you like supersets try doing it with a set of decline medicine ball pushups without any rest between. KILLER

[quote name='Kea']following on from that, here's a great workout that I would absolutely not be able to do-but I might take parts of it. They call it a 300 workout. Whatever, it's killer. Apologies for the overt US Army bits within the video. [url="http://www.thebodygenesis.com/james-madison-university-300-workout"]http://www.thebodygenesis.com/james-mad ... 00-workout[/url] in 28 minutes he does: 25X chin ups 50X hang cleans 135 lb 50X plyo push ups 50X single arm DB snatches 40lb 25X sit up presses 30 lb 25X squat jumps 50X bent over rows, pluu and shrug 95 lb 25X push up to pull up[/quote] That's awesome stuff. I've done another "300" workout which is a bit different to that one. I've never see sit up presses before, and those bent over rows into shrugs x 50 would be a real killer after all the rest of the stuff.

i split bis and tris onto seperate days and do back or chest at the same time. bis and tris are always left til the end of the session and the bigger muscle groups are worked first currently doing cable curls, seated curls where on decline the dumbells are turned at an angle (gets a very strong stretch) and preacher curls 4 sets ea of 6 reps i dont spend too much time on my shoulders as they are naturally well developed so only upright rows and lateral raises , secondary workouts via wide grip chin ups and presses etc

eating - I've found a simple plan.  If your hungry, and feel like a pie, have a bread role, and so forth.  Downgrade your cravings!!  Also avoid fatty foods wqhen eating out, make a concious choice to order healthy foods, or as healthy as you can at the time / venue you are at.  Diet fizzy drinks - I am a martyr to coke, or was, then a martyr to diet coke, now a martyr to coke zero, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. smaller portions etc - all the shit your trainiers is saying is right, it just sucks having to do it!!