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    I'm about half way through. It's excellent.

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    Fuck, I'll have to do a re-watch, I can't even remember it now haha

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    @nonpartizan said in By the balls:

    @Catogrande said in By the balls:

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    Yeah, I thought the same regarding Kirk, he was a bit up his own arse. His stance was right but he was unlikeable within that. Complete contrast to Buck wha was wrong but very likeable within that. The only guy that really came across as both likeable and right was JK. He was actually quite impressive in that doco.

    Agreed. The footage of him sitting at the front of the team bus looking sad after the Bledisloe Cup was lost was incredible. It really conveyed a sense of how lonely it feels to lose as an All Black.

    I think it was Norm Hewitts book that first alerted me to what kind of guy JK is. Prior to that I always imagined him to be an arrogant piston wristed gibbon judging by how dominant he was on the field. The truth couldn't be further from that. One of my favourite ever NZ sportsmen, the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

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    @nostrildamus said in By the balls:

    Kirk was very likeable if you were a Blues fan in the 80s.

    Fake News. Absolutely NO ONE watched Blues Rugby til 1996.

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    Thanks @booboo for reviving the thread, gave it a watch and loved it. Years before my time but great.

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    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    @nostrildamus said in By the balls:

    Kirk was very likeable if you were a Blues fan in the 80s.

    Fake News. Absolutely NO ONE watched Blues Rugby til 1996.

    Ok pedant, Auckland. I knew I what I meant.

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    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

    And a very very limited coach and analyst

    Love him as a human, but not as a coach

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    @nzzp said in By the balls:

    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

    And a very very limited coach and analyst

    Love him as a human, but not as a coach

    A bit harsh, I'm sure he's a better coach than most in this world. Just not an elite pro coach, in the top levels of rugby.

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    @Machpants said in By the balls:

    @nzzp said in By the balls:

    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

    And a very very limited coach and analyst

    Love him as a human, but not as a coach

    A bit harsh, I'm sure he's a better coach than most in this world. Just not an elite pro coach, in the top levels of rugby.

    Ok.

    I think his resume with the Blues and then as an analyst suggests he shouldn't be operating at that level.

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    @nzzp said in By the balls:

    @Machpants said in By the balls:

    @nzzp said in By the balls:

    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

    And a very very limited coach and analyst

    Love him as a human, but not as a coach

    A bit harsh, I'm sure he's a better coach than most in this world. Just not an elite pro coach, in the top levels of rugby.

    Ok.

    I think his resume with the Blues and then as an analyst suggests he shouldn't be operating at that level.

    If we’re judging a persons character by whether they’re good rugby coaches AND good blokes there won’t be many good folk in the world. In fact by my reckoning only Graham Henry, Rassie Erasmus, Ian McGheechan and Jim Telfer would qualify

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    @MN5 heard of Wayne Smith?

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    @booboo said in By the balls:

    @MN5 heard of Wayne Smith?

    Yeah fair enough he rounds out my top five. I didn’t exactly overthink my top four to be fair

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    @nonpartizan said in By the balls:

    @MN5 said in By the balls:

    @nonpartizan said in By the balls:

    @Catogrande said in By the balls:

    @MN5

    Yeah, I thought the same regarding Kirk, he was a bit up his own arse. His stance was right but he was unlikeable within that. Complete contrast to Buck wha was wrong but very likeable within that. The only guy that really came across as both likeable and right was JK. He was actually quite impressive in that doco.

    Agreed. The footage of him sitting at the front of the team bus looking sad after the Bledisloe Cup was lost was incredible. It really conveyed a sense of how lonely it feels to lose as an All Black.

    I think it was Norm Hewitts book that first alerted me to what kind of guy JK is. Prior to that I always imagined him to be an arrogant piston wristed gibbon judging by how dominant he was on the field. The truth couldn't be further from that. One of my favourite ever NZ sportsmen, the ONLY negative I can think of is that his glasses look a bit silly.

    Haha, those glasses 🤓

    That's what I love about the biographies, you always get to hear some insights into the true measure of the players characters and how highly they regard their peers. Since they spend weeks and weeks in each other's company away from home they must really get to know each other's traits.

    Well actually Hewitts book was the only one that did that from memory. Most others are VERY Vanilla

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    @MN5 Great coaches but not sure i'd define either Rassie or Ted as good blokes. Plenty of guys that do meet those dual criteria though for what its worth. BJ Lochore at the top of the list

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    @dogmeat said in By the balls:

    @MN5 Great coaches but not sure i'd define either Rassie or Ted as good blokes. Plenty of guys that do meet those dual criteria though for what it’s worth. BJ Lochore at the top of the list

    Henry seems nice under the school headmaster demeanour and Rassie visited Sam Cane in hospital. That’ll do for me

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