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    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @1kiwi said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

    Bell will be duking it out with Moananu in a couple years time I believe as it wouldn't surprise me if Codie Taylor either hangs up his boots or heads overseas after the next world cup.

    Moananu really should leave. He can't even crack the Crusaders 23 where he looks to have an AB level ceiling.

    Have posted in another thread. He is in chats with the Blues, not a signed and sealed thing though. One to keep an eye on with how it could unfold. Makes zero sense to stay in red and black if George Bell is sticking around(and also now that the bias seems to be gone)

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    Will be interesting to see the match day 23.....

    Front row is good - well earned Norris
    Locks I am happy - plenty of grunt in there - pleased with Holland selection
    I am still mildly concerned about the balance of the loosies, it does depend where they play Ardie I guess--- but very happy Du’Plessis is in there.

    Halfbacks I am happy with those 3

    10s no surprises but an injury could open up the door for opportunities for some of the young fellas on the edge of the squad.

    Midfield looks good, Rieko is surely a wing now.

    Outsides - happy enough, CC pretty lucky I feel. And nice to see Love in there

    anyway bring on the first test - lets see how they go.

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    Rieko Ioane.

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    @nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Rieko Ioane.

    first AND second name spelt correctly. Well done.

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    @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @reprobate As Razor himself said, Ethan's likely to be in and around the squad later in the year. I'll be surprised if that's not true.

    I'm waiting with interest to see how they deploy their loose forwards and what the results are.

    Ethan will have a fair bit of competition

    CLW has been chosen as injury cover - Lakai and Parker will return from injury later this year....

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    I like the squad selection, mostly because it seems like a turn away from ‘how do we not lose games?’ to ‘how can we actually win them?’. When you want to play a high-speed, movement-based game, you need to have the ball, and having Savea, Kirifi and Tavatavanawai in your squad (top 3 breakdown steals in Super Rugby) at least gives you an opportunity at consistently playing that game.

    If I were to hazard a guess on how this will impact the game plan, I suspect they’ll want to start with a possession game, using big carriers through the middle. That means starting Taukei’aho, Williams, Sititi and Savea. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see Vaa’i in the 6-jersey and Finau wearing 20. I would also guess they want to control possession by having experienced kickers at 10 and 15, which would mean Barrett and McKenzie both starting with Jordan on the right wing. (FYI, I am not saying good kickers, the emphasis is on experienced)

    A bench of Taylor, Norris, Tosi, Tuipulotu, Finau, Kirifi, Ratima and Tavatavanawai/Tupaea would mean mobility, breakdown prowess and counter-attacking ability in the final 30 minutes. McKenzie thrives directing attack in broken play so he could shift to 10 while Jordan would move to 15.

    Again, not saying that this is how they’ll play or line up, of course, but at least there’s some clear outlines of how they could attack the game, rather than just pick players who’ll work hard and hope that they produce some magic somehow.

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    @nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Rieko Ioane.

    Corrected thanks 😉

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    @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Rieko Ioane.

    first AND second name spelt correctly. Well done.

    Baby steps. Baby steps.

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    Blues best player (AJ Lam) is the most unlucky. With LF probably coming in for the RC, I guess he won't be selected this year.

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    @cgrant said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Blues best player (AJ Lam) is the most unlucky. With LF probably coming in for the RC, I guess he won't be selected this year.

    Isn't AJ more a 12 and LF more a 13?

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    Christian Lio-Willie

    Christian Lio-Willie
    Are these stats correct? If so as big as Sititi, and CLW can play 6?
    I mean, he hits hard and gets around a bit. Auckland, Otago, Canterbury...

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    @nostrildamus

    Lam is probably a better 13 than 12.

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    If you had of told me they would select 6 midfielders and both of Havili (favouritism) and Lam (ability) would miss out id have been surprised.

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    @nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Christian Lio-Willie

    Christian Lio-Willie
    Are these stats correct? If so as big as Sititi, and CLW can play 6?
    I mean, he hits hard and gets around a bit. Auckland, Otago, Canterbury...

    They should do weigh ins before each game like combat sports. Some of them sound extremely made up.

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    @Jet I do feel for Lam he was clearly on their radar last year as he was called in as injury cover, unfortunately for Lam Tupaea regained his 2022 form and Joseph moved Tavatavanawai into the midfield

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    @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    If they were set on starting a lock at 6 they would have selected more than 4 of them.

    Both Barrett and Vaai are proven failures at 6 at test level as well

    I think there is a space there waiting for Parker. In the mean time they'll try to experiment with Vaaii. I personally think it's better than using another utility holding piece there, even if I don't like moving players from Super to international level.

    Looking forward, if Holland transfers his game to the next level, Scooter's position could/should be in jeopardy.

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    @gt12

    Holland is no doubt a unit with a massive engine but at the moment he's no where as effective as Barrett with his cleans.

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    @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    If they were set on starting a lock at 6 they would have selected more than 4 of them.

    Both Barrett and Vaai are proven failures at 6 at test level as well

    I think there is a space there waiting for Parker. In the mean time they'll try to experiment with Vaaii. I personally think it's better than using another utility holding piece there, even if I don't like moving players from Super to international level.

    Looking forward, if Holland transfers his game to the next level, *** Scooter's position could/should be in jeopardy.**

    Barrett’s don’t get dropped they leave when they want to

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    Can’t remember who it was that said it, but just a friendly reminder to the guy who said Tavatavanawai has a pot belly. He is now an All Black with a supposed pot belly. There’s still hope for us all

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    @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Can’t remember who it was that said it, but just a friendly reminder to the guy who said Tavatavanawai has a pot belly. He is now an All Black with a supposed pot belly. There’s still hope for us all

    That was me. I wasn't against his selection btw. Just thought he might have a gut and the coaches might not like it.

    Didn't realise it would be such a sensitive topic for forum members so my apologies.

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