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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Fiji do play a style that has troubled the Aussies. Lions will play very different and they weren’t great last night either

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    @sparky said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    The Lions will

    I was going to add that, but not sure if they will. They want the games to attract an audience.

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    @sparky said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @booboo said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    Well, nobody will be happy with that.

    The Lions will. Not much to worry about from the Wallabies. Very average.

    I hope for Joe Schmidt's sake that he was keeping the powder dry.

    We could just ignore that it wasn't that long ago that Fiji beat an at home England.

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    @Bones Sure, but England were terrible in the game. And it was there fifth defeat in six games at the time.

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    @sparky said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @Bones Sure, but England were terrible in the game.

    Oh, that old chestnut.

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    @Bones This is what I posted at the time:

    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/871925

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    @sparky said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @Bones This is what I posted at the time:

    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/871925

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    Just seems rather ironic.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Aus will get better without Lolesio

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    @African-Monkey said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    I went back and checked - Wilson clearly got it down eventually - what are we talking about here?

    Yeah clear grounding, eventually as you said.

    Why is there even discussion, the ref gave it as a try, so it was obviously grounded and a try.

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    @Dan54 said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @African-Monkey said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    @KiwiMurph said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    I went back and checked - Wilson clearly got it down eventually - what are we talking about here?

    Yeah clear grounding, eventually as you said.

    Why is there even discussion, the ref gave it as a try, so it was obviously grounded and a try.

    Well it is fairly common nowadays for a ref to award a try and then have to overrule himself so I wouldn't say that's the be all and end all.

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    Was it a great Wallaby performance? No. But I thought it was OK.

    Fiji are a good side, and if you let them into the game then they are very hard to beat. Sometimes I think we're trapped in a 90s mindset of 'minnow' nations, where it's almost expected we put 50 on them. Those days are long gone.

    That said we got ourselves in a big hole. The first 38 minutes was pretty good, if a little wasteful inside the Fijian 22. But then to concede a try on halftime thanks to a series of dumb decisions let them into the game.

    And then a beautiful end-to-end try and they've got their tails up. Offloads start sticking. The balls start bouncing for them. The crowd find their voice. I've seen this game a thousand times with the Wallabies.

    We did pretty well to win the game in the last five minutes, though of course it should never have come to that.

    Bobby V and Skelton will make a difference if they are fit. We got a bit too lateral at times and more direct hard running in close is what we need. Gleeson is great at that, and Wilson, so the players are there. Just a bit more direction.

    And obviously a change at 10. Noah isn't even a safe pair of hands anymore. Just don't know how we can keep playing him and expecting a different outcome.

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    @barbarian said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    We did pretty well to win the game in the last five minutes, though of course it should never have come to that.

    Bobby V and Skelton will make a difference if they are fit. We got a bit too lateral at times and more direct hard running in close is what we need. Gleeson is great at that, and Wilson, so the players are there. Just a bit more direction.

    I actually tipped Fiji to win because of a number of factors

    • Day time game and dry track,
    • Oz missing a couple of key players that have size to combat the confrontational style of Fiji,
    • an improved 9-10-12-13 for Fiji
    • Oz 9-10 combination selected is/was not the answer
    • Fiji style tends to discomfort the Aussies.
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    It's not a great trial game for the Lions, stylistically. I know the Lions aren't as stodgy as they once were, but they certainly aren't playing Fijian rugby out there and it makes this game a bit hard to judge in that light.

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    @barbarian said in Wallabies v Fiji:

    It's not a great trial game for the Lions, stylistically. I know the Lions aren't as stodgy as they once were, but they certainly aren't playing Fijian rugby out there and it makes this game a bit hard to judge in that light.

    The physicality was very useful for a pre Lions hit out though

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    Something that impressed me about Fiji was their ability to create extra space and mismatches in possession. Pass and wrap around. If their hands didn't let them down, they probably win by 10+.

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    I haven’t seen the game but have heard reports about a late try for Fiji being controversially ruled out? I haven’t been able to find it on YouTube. What was the situation?

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    An Australian player stepped on the sideline before passing the ball in-field. Fiji eventually turned over and scored in the corner. The play was pulled back to the foot-in-touch after the TMO had a look. Technically the TMO can't go back to beyond the attacking phase (i.e. they can't look at anything prior to Fiji taking possession of the ball). So while it shouldn't have been chalked out because of protocols, it was a fair result in some ways.

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    @Mr-Fish

    Scandal then.

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    @Mr-Fish @Catogrande

    I don't think that's exactly true.

    If the attacking phase is under two phases (which this was) then the TMO can go back 2 phases

    See note at the bottom of the below 2025 TMO protocols

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    Really makes you think rugby should move back towards the League/cricket model - having captains referral. Instead of the TMO butting in at every single opportunity, make the defending team identify the potential issue and refer it. introduces an element of strategy and takes it back to the more noticeable in-game issues as opposed to zooming in and slowmo on every potential infraction

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