NPC Div 1 - Final rounds
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Found it....
the winner of the round robin match between the two provinces
highest overall points difference
highest number of tries scored
highest number of points scored
a coin tossCM beat both Waikato and Auck (although very unlikely a tie break will be needed against Auck). Lost to Ta$man (again unlikely tie break required)
CMs first option is to win, then just to pick up Bps, then to hope for Naki to beat Auck and Auck to get a max of 1 point.
I see last place going to CM or Auck. Waikato an outsider.
If CM take fourth place they will play Canterbury again
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@Crucial said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)
Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back
What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.
Posted on the ITM Cup website last year:
Tie break rules: In case two teams are tied on competition points after round robin, here's what happens: i) The winner of the round robin match between the two sides has the higher position ii) If they didn't play a round robin match, then it goes to points difference If three (or more) teams are tied on competition points, here's what happens: i) The team that has earned the most competition points against the other teams has the higher position ii) If there's still a tie, it goes to points difference Should teams still be tied after looking at previous results and points difference, then here's how the tie gets broken: i) The team with the most tries across the competition has the higher position ii) If tries scored across the competition is the same, then the team with the most points goes ahead And if that doesn't work: it comes down to the toss of a coin!http://mitre10cup.co.nz/News/28264/itm-cup-tie-breaks-and-cheer-guide
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@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so muchWouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.
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@Chris-B. said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so muchWouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.
Well you were right about Harbour. No 10 points now
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@SammyC If you guys lose to Counties which I'm sure you will for good measure.
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@mimic Lol even if we do go through we're only gonna lose to Canterbury anyway. Having said that it was a much better effort tonight. Scrum was much better this week, unfortunately we didn't have a clue on how to stop the rolling maul which was all Taranaki really had.
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At present the three way tie rule is in effect.
I think from points earned against each other the order is Ta$man, CM, AuclandSo I make it currently
Cant 40 (CM to play) - 1st and will stay first
Taranaki 37 - 2nd and will stay second
Ta$man 29 - Southland to play
CM 29 (Cant to play) - 4th but can end up 3rd if they pick up more than Ta$man
Auck 29 - gone -
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OK so in the unlike event of Ta$man, CM, Waikato and Auckland all finishing on 29 the order (table points scored against the other three teams) is
Ta$man (13)
CM (11)
Waikato (7)
Auck (4)The CM v Canterbury game is not quite a dead rubber but with both team likely to face each other ( Ta$man have the easier last game), how much do they show in this one?
My guess is that whoever gets out to a lead early will take the game as the other team then brings in the reserves for game time..
CM will probably keep Manu, Elliot and Tony Pulu on to help with match fitness though.
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After all of that I hadn't factored in the close loss BP for Auckland, they are actually on 30 so all my reckoning was a waste of time
It now stands
Cant 40 (CM to play) - 1st and will stay first
Taranaki 37 - 2nd and will stay second
Auck 30 - 3rd but need either of CM or Ta$man to collect 0 points in their final games
Ta$man 29 - Southland to play
CM 29 (Cant to play) - 5th but can end up 3rd if they pick up more than Ta$manAuckland lose in any tie break so they are out if CM and Ta$man pick up a minimum of 1 pt each.
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So Waikato's win over Welly (fuck they have been far worse than they should be, almost as bad as Auckland) have taken them into provisional fourth place waiting on the Ta$man v Southland game and Auckland are gone burger
Ta$man only need one point to get into the semis and five points to go to third place.
Not sure who they would prefer to play out of Naki and Canterbury but they may get to make a choice during the game.
I think CM would prefer Naki
If Ta$man get through I can see any of the semi finalists making the finals which is good from a competition viewpoint.
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