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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Team Points Last Game Points Difference
    Canterbury 40 Counties (away) +190
    Taranaki 32 Auckland (home) +76
    Counties Man 29 Canterbury (home) +38
    Auckland 28 Taranaki (away) +36
    Ta$man 27 NH(away) and Southland (home) +16
    Waikato 25 Wellington (away) + 6
    Hawke's Bay 14 BOP (home) -130

    Canterbury will finish first
    Hawkes Bay will be relegated

    Matches involving the semi final contenders

    Date Match Venue
    12-Oct North Harbour v Ta$man Albany
    13-Oct Taranaki v Auckland New Plymouth
    15-Oct Counties Manukau v Canterbury Pukekohe
    15-Oct Wellington v Waikato Wellington
    16-Oct Ta$man v Southland Nelson

    You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
    Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    I'll be cheering for Naki over Auckland by the look of things.

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    @Crucial

    and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

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    @Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    @Crucial

    and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

    Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back

    What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.

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    @Crucial

    I think its points difference? Couldn't find it on the NPC website though

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    Found it....

    the winner of the round robin match between the two provinces
    highest overall points difference
    highest number of tries scored
    highest number of points scored
    a coin toss

    CM beat both Waikato and Auck (although very unlikely a tie break will be needed against Auck). Lost to Ta$man (again unlikely tie break required)

    CMs first option is to win, then just to pick up Bps, then to hope for Naki to beat Auck and Auck to get a max of 1 point.

    I see last place going to CM or Auck. Waikato an outsider.

    If CM take fourth place they will play Canterbury again

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    @Crucial said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    @Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    @Crucial

    and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

    Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back

    What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.

    Posted on the ITM Cup website last year:

    Tie break rules:
    In case two teams are tied on competition points after round robin, here's what happens:
    i) The winner of the round robin match between the two sides has the higher position
    ii) If they didn't play a round robin match, then it goes to points difference  
    
    If three (or more) teams are tied on competition points, here's what happens:
    i) The team that has earned the most competition points against the other teams has the higher position
    ii) If there's still a tie, it goes to points difference
    
    Should teams still be tied after looking at previous results and points difference, then here's how the tie gets broken:
    i) The team with the most tries across the competition has the higher position
    ii) If tries scored across the competition is the same,  then the team with the most points goes ahead
     
    And if that doesn't work: it comes down to the toss of a coin!
    

    http://mitre10cup.co.nz/News/28264/itm-cup-tie-breaks-and-cheer-guide

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    @Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
    Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

    Wouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.

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    @Chris-B. said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    @Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
    Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

    Wouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.

    Well you were right about Harbour. No 10 points now

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    Just realised CM have a sniff at at home semi now.
    Slightly less unlikely than before.

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    This Auckland/Naki game has the hallmarks of being a real spoiler. Lots of tries, close game.

    Come on Naki!

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    Naki get their fourth try and one more point on the table.

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    Now Auckland get their fourth. 1 more point on the table and the lead in the match.

    Fucken Naki. That loss at the death to them in round 5 is coming back at us like a bad kebab.

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    Yes. On the death stroke. (always had faith in you Naki 😉 )

    Apologies if these last posts should have been on a match thread but I couldn't find it and the outcome of this match had a big bearing on standings.

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    Auckland out of the playoffs.... hahahahahaha

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    @SammyC If you guys lose to Counties which I'm sure you will for good measure.

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    @SammyC said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

    Auckland out of the playoffs.... hahahahahaha

    Not yet, although you wouldn't bet on Ta$man losing to Southland.

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    Yeah.. Auckland isn't out of the playoffs yet..
    Tbh, I was hoping they would miss out.. so we can get a new coach

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    @mimic Lol even if we do go through we're only gonna lose to Canterbury anyway. Having said that it was a much better effort tonight. Scrum was much better this week, unfortunately we didn't have a clue on how to stop the rolling maul which was all Taranaki really had.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    At present the three way tie rule is in effect.
    I think from points earned against each other the order is Ta$man, CM, Aucland

    So I make it currently

    Cant 40 (CM to play) - 1st and will stay first
    Taranaki 37 - 2nd and will stay second
    Ta$man 29 - Southland to play
    CM 29 (Cant to play) - 4th but can end up 3rd if they pick up more than Ta$man
    Auck 29 - gone

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