Weight loss tips for fat cunts
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[quote name='Barnya']<br />
How does drinking shitloads of water help? Given the state of Dunedin's water supply I'm probably doing myself more harm than good drinking the shit.<br />
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You all mention cutting out the carbs after 5pm but unfortunately this is harder than it sounds given most NZ dinners are carb-based. My flatmates always cook very healthy dinners but they pretty much always contain carbs (pasta, brown rice etc). Any suggestions for what kind of dinners I should be eating instead? Oh and the six meals a day is a nice thought but totally impractical because I'm not home all day and we cook together anyway.<br />
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Kirwan: I think the hardest thing will definitely be laying off the booze. After getting pissed 3 or 4 nights a week for over 3 years, I've found that when I do have a month or so off I have so much spare time on my hands that I just don't know what the hell to do with it. Kinda sad but I guess you have to break the chain of alcoholism at some point.<br />
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I'll back Ollie up and say that after two weeks I feel better already, haven't dropped much weight but I'm not craving fatty shit anymore (in fact my flatmate cooked crumbed chicken drumsticks last night and they were so fatty that I felt ill for hours afterwards, my body telling it to get fucked perhaps?) and I have the fridge stocked with celery for those sudden cravings.<br />
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Jogging is going well, unfortunately my lower calves and feet always seem to end up in searing pain halfway through the run while the rest of me feels fine. Might be to do with stretching or my running style, anyone else have the same problem? Also I run in the evening just before dinner and always seem to have WTW's problem. Even if I go just before I embark on the run, by the time I'm halfway there my sphincter is pretty much at DEFCON-2. It's bloody hard to run while you're trying to crack nuts with your buttcheeks, and you must look ridiculous too. Tried running in the morning but it's cold and even more excruciatingly painful for my lower legs.<br />
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One great thing about jogging though - the biatches! I run to Ross Creek and around it, where shitloads of joggers congregate, and the number of fit, lithe, supple young birds bouncing around is motivation enough to keep moving. In no other situation would I have so many hot chicks saying hello and smiling (then again I run without my glasses on so that may explain why they all appear to be lookers).<br />
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Water helps flush toxins out of the body, thereby potentially lowering cravings for certain foods. Also keeps you from dehydrating.<br />
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On the no carbs after 5pm, eat meat but with vegetables or salad instead of rice or pasta. If you do eat carbs, you need to exercise that evening otherwise you don't burn the stored energy from the pasta up and it will turn to fat. Stir fries with meat and veges are good and also fill you up.<br />
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Keep drinking. A man is not a camel. Doctors recommend it for your heart - red wine that is. <br />
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If you can find a gym to do your jogging in that should alleviate some of the pain issues.....plenty of biatches there as well usually. Using the machines at the gym takes the stress out of the ankles/calves - walking uphill on the treadmill for 15mins will kill you more than any jogging session. Those cross country ski/jog machines will also get the heart rate pumping. -
Barnya - with all the money you are saving by not getting on the piss, get into a gym! Here the thing on the gym noticeboard in Whanga. THought there was another one too, but this from another study.<br />
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[quote]McMaster UNiversity in USA compared a ten week programme of weight training plus aerobic training against aerobic training alone. The aerobic group showed only a 2% increase in cardio capacity and an 11% increase in endurance. The weight training group showed a 15% increase in cardio capacity and a massive 109% increase in endurance. For strength the results favoured weight training even more. The aerobics group showed no increase in arm or leg strength. The weight training group showed a 43% increase in arm strength and a 22% increase in leg strength.[/quote]<br />
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The piece I tried to find on the notice board, and no mentionj of weight loss in the pieve above, was about the weight lost by two the same two groups, and muscle gained. Was something like five times as much fat loss by the weights/aerobic group, and muscle gain, while the aerobic only group lost weight, and also lost muscle mass.<br />
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Bart's piece above is what I mean about pushups, crunches, and lunges Barn. These are muscle training exercises using your body's own weight as the resistance and there are many things you can do to increase that resistance (i.e. pushups get harder and work different muscles if you elevate your feet). Then its all about more reps <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
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Yeah, not so keen on the pushups, crunches and lunges. I'm not very disciplined and tend to give up as soon as it starts hurting. I need someone there yelling at me to keep going.<br />
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Bart, the gym is free for uni students so no excuses really
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Re the no carbs after 5pm, I got into a huge argument with my flatmate last night and she reckons it's bullshit. Her mother is a dietician and therefore apparently the final authority on all things food-related. I said, I don't care, you're talking shit, I've heard from a lot of people that carbs after 5pm are really bad for you.<br />
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"Like who?"<br />
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"Ahhhh...a bunch of blokes on a rugby forum"<br />
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Tell her to get fucked. And get her to ask her mother what the point is behind eating an energy source if you're going to sit your arse down on the couch and do nothing with it.<br />
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And we're not "a bunch of blokes on a rugby forum" - we're highly skilled rugby playing athletes <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> -
But surely things like meat are an even bigger energy source than things like bread, pasta and rice?<br />
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And we're not "a bunch of blokes on a rugby forum" - we're highly skilled rugby playing athletes <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /><br />
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ha, I'm with the flatmates mum, that is a load of shit about carbs after 5, but if you think it works for you, go for it!!<br />
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a portion of carbs, and a portion of protein with every meal (portion guide about the size of your fist for each meal), and you should be fine - that is for the six feeds a day thing though. -
[quote name='Barnya']<br />
But surely things like meat are an even bigger energy source than things like bread, pasta and rice?<br />
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Denial ain't just a river in Asia, Nicky boy.<br />
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The Nile is a river in Africa though. Tit.<br />
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Meat has a lot of protein in it which is a source for things like building muscle. Carbs are mainly designed to be consumed and used, while fats are full of energy but tend to be stored (unless you're running a marathon).<br />
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BTW - the no/low carbs thing is not forever or part of a long-term eating plan. You wanted to trim up a bit and it provides a great head start and also helps take some of the shit out of your diet so that you're trained to eat less of it. Once you get down as far as you need you start re-introducing it. -
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ha, I'm with the flatmates mum, that is a load of shit about carbs after 5, but if you think it works for you, go for it!!<br />
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a portion of carbs, and a portion of protein with every meal (portion guide about the size of your fist for each meal), and you should be fine - that is for the six feeds a day thing though.<br />
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Yep I agree totally. I don't pay any attention to the low-carb thing although I believe it makes a difference in the early stages of a diet. Low fat content has helped me alot. Basically it's all about cutting out the crap, eating relatively healthy and doing regular exercise. There are no real secrets. -
Barnya, the sore calfs and feet thing sound similar to the problems I had running. Two things you can do, first is buy some good running shoes with arch support. Second is go see a podiatrist and make sure there isn't a mechanical problem with the way you run.<br />
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I had all sorts of issues with my feet rolling over, weak arches, etc that I need inserts in my shoes to correct (and a good amount of physio).<br />
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Third option is drop the running down and do rowing instead. I found I had problems with my motivation for long runs, etc so have split it into ten minute sections of running, rowing and cross trainer to add some variety. Seems like less work and easier to get an hour of cardio in. -
[quote name='Barnya']<br />
Hey team,<br />
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I need some pearls of wisdom from you blokes.<br />
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I want to get back into social sport next year so I need to build up my fitness. But more importantly, summer is fast approaching and if I want to spend it frying my meat and two veg on Tamarama Beach with Rachel Griffiths and MVJ, I need to shed a few pounds.<br />
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I've been running an hour a day, eating shitloads of celery, not going anywhere near fast food and drinking hard liquor instead of beer, but no real results yet. Basically I would love to know whether or not there is in fact any truth to the following myths, as I really have no clue:<br />
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It's not how far you run, it's how long you run for.<br />
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The more celery you eat, the more weight you lose.<br />
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You're better off drinking straight liquor (e.g. scotch on the rocks) than beer.<br />
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You're better off eating three big meals a day than smaller meals with snacks in between.<br />
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Sit ups achieve fuck all.<br />
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That's it for now. Might think of a few more later. Sorry this isn't very rugby related but I didn't know where to post it and if anyone can come up with miracle weight loss tips that don't involve giving up alcohol, I'll owe them a beer.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
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Ok its about 2 months two late but anyway. havent read what anyone else has written but here you go:<br />
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[b]It's not how far you run, it's how long you run for.[/b]<br />
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Its the intensity you run at. Keep your heart rate about 70% of maximum<br />
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[b]The more celery you eat, the more weight you lose.[/b]<br />
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You can eat as much vegetables as you want pretty much. Fruit is a little different, but vegetables especially the fibrous ones like broccolli will be good for wieght loss. Try eating sweet potatoes instead of regular potatoes.<br />
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[b]You're better off drinking straight liquor (e.g. scotch on the rocks) than beer.[/b]<br />
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Avoid alcohol completely. Yeah I know, thats why im not getting the gains i want either...<br />
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[b]You're better off eating three big meals a day than smaller meals with snacks in between.[/b]<br />
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Eat 6 smaller meals a day this will increase your metabolism.<br />
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[b]Sit ups achieve fuck all.[/b]<br />
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Correct.<br />
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Drink water all the time, never be without a bottle of water, I drink water like crazy. I gave up coke. Your diet must be clean (No not A diet..) eat things like chicken breast, tuna, salmon etc for protien, breads etc for carbs, and dont forget fat, eating fat is good for you (eating GOOD fats is good for you. Not Maccas..), just stay away from saturated fats.<br />
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For excercise: Do weights and cardio. No you wont get huge from doing weights unless you are eating alot more than your calorie maitenence level. <br />
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Simple changes to your diet, and more exercise will show results straight away.<br />
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So have you lost any weight yet?<br />
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Try not to lose more than 2lbs a week or you may be losing muscle as well...and above all else you have to eat to lose weight, if you dont the body will want to save the fat on your body because you may need it later because you are being starved and it will burn up your muscle tissue instead. -
Also before and after you work out have some sort of protien. I prefer a protien shake.<br />
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If you want to get really picky make your diet 40% carbs 40% protien and 20% fat and count your calories. Sites like fitday.com (I think) are good for that sort of stuff.<br />
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Your good fats should come from things like Natural peanut butter, cottage cheese, and flaxseed oil. Flaxseed oil tastes like shit by the way. -
[quote name='BartMan']<br />
ha, I'm with the flatmates mum, that is a load of shit about carbs after 5, but if you think it works for you, go for it!!<br />
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a portion of carbs, and a portion of protein with every meal (portion guide about the size of your fist for each meal), and you should be fine - that is for the six feeds a day thing though.<br />
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Doesnt matter if you eat carbs after 5 because its your total daily caloric intake that determines if you put on fat or not. -
weight is a good thing barnya, at least for rugby, embrace it. There's no point being able to lumber around for an hour if you'll never catch anything in a practical situation. Best to be able to go hard out for one half ad then sit on the sideline sinking piss and watching your team lose in the second. <br />
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But if you really insist... I find going to the gym and never letting your heart go below 150 bpm by going hard on the weights and machines for about an hour sweats the fuck out of you and uses up shitloads of kcals. I need this due to being overly fond of lager. <br />
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[quote name='BartMan']<br />
body for life - get the book, and follow the eating plan. basically 6 meals a day etc. <br />
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Once you wade through all the yank bullshit, trying to sell you suppliments etc [b](which you don't need), [/b] it is pretty handy.<br />
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I have been following that for about 8 weeks (and have done it before with great results too), and it is working a treat.<br />
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[b]Don't follow their training regime,[/b] as have mine own. <br />
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I've been rowing on an erg 4 times a week, and weights twice a week.<br />
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Monday - row 5k and 10k (morning / evening)<br />
Tuesday - row - weights 2 x 5k rows 1 in morning 1 evening before weights<br />
Wednesday - see monday<br />
Thursday - see Tuesday<br />
Friday is usually touch, and perhaps a 20 minute row - just a cruise, not hard out<br />
Saturday and Sunday, whatever you want to do - if you do nothing over the weekend, you sure hit the ground running on the monday for that fiurst row!!<br />
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Best thing about teh boyd for live eating - [b]one day of seven, eat whatever shit you like[/b], drink what you like, amke a pig of yourself. However, you start not doing it anyway, as your huinger for the bad foods vanish.<br />
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I have gone from 118 to 107 with first the weights / rowing for last 10-12 weeks, and the eating in the last couple of months.<br />
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Back to my playing weight, 6 years on, look out world, and touch rugby, I am now officially dangerous :coolsmiley:<br />
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so really what your saying is the only bit of the fit for life program you follow is day 7. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
[quote name='hankookponty']<br />
On the diet front, try eating fish, or your missus<br />
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All smells the same after a day in the sun <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> -
[quote name='Donsteppa']<br />
Braver man than I, it's taken me about five years to cut back my consumption by half! <br />
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I had a pyramid of 500 empty coke cans in the corner of my room one day. I drank it like crazy.<br />
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[quote name='BartMan']<br />
I am now officially dangerous :coolsmiley:<br />
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The body matches the spelling? :shocked:
