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[quote name='BartMan']yeah, treat thing very important. Roll on end of BB season!! And Oats, now my breakfast of choice, in and or out of season. Added into oats now too K, try blending a couple of egg whites and folding them in at the end with the protein powder and cinnamon, breakfast of champions (I hope it will be anyway)!!!![/QUOTE]<br />
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Whilst Bart has posted about diet appoximately 21367 times on the fitness forums he speaks the truth. Why after some oustanding binge drinking efforts last friday I have wound up a week later after deciding not to touch A DROP all week a kg and a half lighter. Pretty happy with that and it should be easier to maintain with no big piss ups on the horizon ( although a trip to the Mt for a week next month with the bro in law might change that, I may have to make a trip across the way for Bart to give me a slap in the chops :knuppel: )
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Don't cook 'em. Have 'em COLD. If you like them soggy, soak overnight. Otherwise throw them all in the bowl in the morning, scoop of protein powder, water, mix and into it. Add a banana or kiwi fruit. and that sir, is the breakfast of the gods. Or lesser deities of some sort... -
Have to back up what the others are saying here about diet, TBH NTA i think youre setting yourself up to fail. If you want to be strong by all means lift weights. If you want to lose weight you have to eat less. I have lost about 18kg in the last 18 months, 10kg of that this year. The majority of that 10 was during 2 2 weeks "binge diets" where i controlled my daily intake to between 6000 and 8000 kilojoules. If i have a moderate calorie controlled diet (aim for 8000kj a day but no more than 10000) i might slowly lose a little weight but i might not, even with 3 weights and 2 BJJ sessions a week. Certainly with a moderate exercise regime the extra calories burned are negligible compared to the excess most people consume. I would think (this bit is a guess) that you have to do upwards of an hour of cardio a day to have a decent weight loss with no modification to diet. On the plus side you could easily drop 5kgs in 2 weeks if you maintained a strict diet.
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I understand the points about diet. I'm only at 115 because I have used a measure of control in the diet. Otherwise I'd still be over 120! <br />
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The problem I have with eating restrictions is rebound. I can go hard for a week or two on the eating, but it affects my physical output and I end up making little overall progress. In addition I'm not always in charge of the meal prep so it comes down to portion control regardless.<br />
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I'd rather have a decent diet, and build into the cardio and light weights as I go. Makes it easier to sustain IMHO. And I'm not doing weights for strength, studies have shown that cardio by itself is not as effective as weights plus cardio.<br />
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I guess in a couple of weeks we'll be able to see if I'm right. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /><br />
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Appreciate where youre coming from, and at the end of the day its up to you. Also dont want to come across as negative as any effort to get fit and lose weight gets a big thumbs up from me. Read my trainig log, im going through all aswell. That said, still feel skeptical about your diet, things like "affects my physical output" and "im not always in charge of meal prep" sound like excuses. They may both be true, but if youre motivated to do the business you wont let it stop you. If youre 115kg then i guarantee that your body can function on significantly less than what youre putting in at the moment and if the other people who are doing food prep for you wont alter their own diet to help you then thats pretty shit. <br />
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Will agree with the others if you have to cheat, cheat on the exercise never the diet. I found when doing it tracking it really motivated me. Grab yourself a set of digital scales weigh yourself each morning, naked before you have eaten anything, and use either an online website to track your average weight like The hackers diet ([URL="https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/HackDiet/"]https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/HackDiet/)[/URL] or the physics diet ([URL]http://physicsdiet.com/[/URL]). Even if you dont prescribe to the diets themselves the tools to track will show you how much you are burning more then you require. Those websites are both free as well if you have an android phone you can use an app called Libra it uses the Hackers diet equations but is more convenient then logging in every morning. I use the free version but there is a pay for one as well.<br />
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Ohh and post your graphs, before after pics etc.. So we can cheer you on.<br />
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[quote name='Voltron']if the other people who are doing food prep for you wont alter their own diet to help you then thats pretty shit. [/QUOTE]<br />
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I agree - but the meal prep includes two kids so that is a consideration. The food in itself isn't bad, but it comes down to portion control as I said before.<br />
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115.8kg Monday morning after getting back from a family weekend in our nation's capital. Didn't really overdo it except at breakfast time, and there was a lot of walking and carrying a nearly-4yo which counts as exercise. Consciously watching what I eat in terms of aiming for 8000kj per day, and keeping it high in protein. No more morning and mid-afternoon mocha <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Water is boring as Borey the Boring Boy from Borington...
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Chemical tradeoff though Bartholomew, though the caffeine is a good metaboliser... think I'll just have to sprinkle a bit of lemon juice in there for flavour and chuck in the odd PepsiMax.<br />
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Was still 115.8kg Tuesday.<br />
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115.0kg this morning - a small victory but even better considering I had a 400gm rump last night at the local and a leftover piece of fish. I abstained from the chips (salad only) except for a couple off the kids plate (checking the temperature!) and a spoonful of ice cream ( ... uh... ok I have no excuse for that one).<br />
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[quote name='BartMan']is THAT where I first heard it?! Our trainer loves it![/QUOTE]<br />
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114.7kg this morning. That walking clearly helped, plus I turned down a chocolate cupcake at home last night, much to the disappointment of the cook (try explaining diet to your 3yo daughter!)<br />
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114.0kg even this morning which is kind of astounding, but thanks to chance encounters like the beef salad they had at work, pretty easy to do.<br />
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Have realised that I'm taking a fair bit of protein on board and my diet is almost Atkins-like. Can't give up milk though I've cut down a bit...<br />
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I'd really recommend you not get to concerned about weighing yourself daily, or at least tracking it daily. Grab the value fore sure, and put it in a spreadsheet and then track what you weight each Monday and graph that. It will show the trend better, and you won't disheartened by normal fluctuations that you'll see from day to day.<br />
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I think it was Mooshld that put me on to trending even more than that, and has a good formula that smooths it out even more (taking into account the previous ten days I think), so you know that you just have to keep under the trend, not a specific weight to keep on track.
