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  • JKJ Online
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    JK
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    I dont mind Curse either - had a few free trials and always got a good workout out of it but get a close to similar result from a double shot espresso so usually just have one of those pre workout.<br />
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    I've got a fairly fast metabolism and only place i usually put weight on is my gut. Took creatine a few months back and reckoned it made a fair bit of difference but some of this must have been water retention as Ive lost weight and a bit of bulk since I came off it.<br />
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    May go back on at some time but interested to find out a bit more re aminos and L-glutamine in the first instance

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    JK
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    Hmmm where is that Bart fella when ya need him lol

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  • BartManB Offline
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    you rang...??!!<br />
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    Creatine - never really had much success with it. Does make your muscles hold in the water I think. Going to give it a decent crack in the off season and see what it does.<br />
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    L-Glutamine - we take that aids recovery<br />
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    aminos - take that now that we are leaning down so we don't burn upn the muscle for fuel!

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  • JKJ Online
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    Thanks Bart<br />
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    Picked up some BCAAs yesterday and have started on them. Horrible smelling and tasting stuff and gives me the bright as piss haha. Hopefully will see further effects over time.

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    at trainers tomorrow, will ask about creatine and how it works etc... Always curious!!

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  • J Offline
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    junior
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    Like most supps creatine has acute and chronic effects. <br />
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    Acute: water retention is the obvious one so, Bart, I wouldn't suggest taking it anytime close to a show. The second one is that increases the creatine in your muscle cells. Creatine forms part of the phosphocreatine which fuels work of high intensity and short duration.<br />
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    Chronic: the increase in phosphocreatine increases the time you can spend working at maximal intensity. This, in turn, allows you to lift heavier for longer which increases your gains muscular size and strength.

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    cheers Junior on that - much better explanation that it makes you a sponge.

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  • JKJ Online
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    Pretty simple really when you put it like that.<br />
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    Reckon creatine was worthwhile for me so will go back on it again for a bit from about Feb or March when I try build a bit more bulk.<br />
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    BCAAs are almost done and not really decided as to the effect its had. I have upped my training a fair bit and coped well. I guess the test will be once they run out and how I recover then.

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    Good read as always. Always nice to get some info things I know nothing about.<br />
    What do you guys recommend someone like me, tipping the scale at just under 80kgs, just wanting to loose some belly fat and tone some muscles?<br />
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    Someone suggested Whey, but I have never tried supplements. Might start with those small sachets as someone suggested.

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    shove the supplements up your arse ally... (In a nice way)!!<br />
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    Lose belly fat and tone muscles, you don't need to spend money on supplements. Watch what you eat, and do some exercise! Then once you start to get results, then start thinking about supplements, perhaps.<br />
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    Lose that body fat is simple process of burn more calories than you consume. Not rocket science. (My new favourite saying)! Gain some muscle tone - lift some weights.<br />
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    and you've just saved a ton of dosh.

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    I took creatine in March, April this year, and it did have some effect to make me stronger at the time. However, since then, I've maintained or increased the strength through regular consistency (I still do 3 sets of 15 dips with no trouble, etc), so I feel creatine is a bit of a cheat process. I do use ON whey several times a day when training hard. The best thing though I feel, is to have chicken (plus a little beef) and veges consistently during the day from AM to night-3 to 4 times, and rest well.

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    If you have a cardio-heavy regime, I would recommend Q10 tablets. I used to take them during the footy off and pre season when I was doing a lot of road running and I got incredibly fit incredibly quickly.

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    Milk
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    A mate of mine was on creatine when we went to the Warriors game at Eden Park this year. The girl in front of us turned around and told our girlfriends to stop talking so loud. Out of nowhere he just goes "Hey Bitch, Shut the Fark up!". Then of course the guy she was with turned around and they started yelling at each other.<br />
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    He blamed the creatine for the mood swings, but I hadn't heard of that symptom of creatine?

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  • BartManB Offline
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    me either Milk - sounds like an excuse!

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  • MilkM Offline
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    Milk
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    Yeah. Maybe creatine wasn't the only 'supplement' he was taking...

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    [quote name='BartMan']shove the supplements up your arse ally... (In a nice way)!!<br />
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    Lose belly fat and tone muscles, you don't need to spend money on supplements. Watch what you eat, and do some exercise! Then once you start to get results, then start thinking about supplements, perhaps.<br />
    <br />
    Lose that body fat is simple process of burn more calories than you consume. Not rocket science. (My new favourite saying)! Gain some muscle tone - lift some weights.<br />
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    and you've just saved a ton of dosh.[/QUOTE]<br />
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    Brilliant! Best free advice I've received in a long time, Bart.<br />
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    Yeah, I am doing some exercises with the dumbbells and mixing some pilates in. The belly fat has slowly been disappearing. Muscles toning, without supplement.<br />
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    I agree, watch what you eat. I still eat what I like on weekends, but I make sure I have a good cardio sessions the Sunday Eve.<br />
    Dropped down to one 500ml of Coke per week, so slowly getting there. Also eating more fruit, chicken and switched to wholewheat bread, slowly cutting out the bread too btw.<br />
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    So cheers, Bart. Cheers guys. Have a great December break, and good Christmas to all that celebrate it.

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    make those sugaery things TREATS, not every day foods and that's half your battle methinks! AS s talked about on some other thread - eating is 80% of the battle. Have a friend, a police chick, who has not lost 10kg simply by not eating BREAD. Zero other changes to her diet, just not eating bread!!

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    Reviving this as I want some advice on BCAA's as there are millions out there. What are the right amino acids and what should be the concentrations if I am looking for good quality? Any help would be appreciated

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