Interesting reads
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@antipodean a doco was made about the judge, he had the temerity to think 42 days in jail wasn't enough for drugging and raping a 13 year old........ I mean he was using the case as a way of boosting his profile and besides his partner was 30 years younger than him so who is he to point the finger? Well the last part is what the doco alleges , it's hard to take someone like Meryl Streep seriously when she says Hollywood is vilified when they behave like this.
Anyway back to thread topic and kind of related to the AMA since it goes into justice and sentencing
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No, the case should have been prosecuted as is & he should have done the agreed time - which the victim seems on board with. How many other cases do you get the victim going "yep, that punishment is OK with me".
That should then have led to a realisation that this happened / happens a huge amount in hollywood & an open discussion about it - and those crimes punished at the same level. I want Polanski punished for the crime he committed, not for the crime you & others on the net think he committed. And then I want others who were committing the same crime punished at the same level.
Instead it became a 1 man witch hunt and it almost became "Hollywood is fine, nothing to see here, we just need to send Polanski for jail forever & everything is good". Weinstein is not arguing Polanksi is innocent, he is arguing Polanski has been punished for what he did at a level equal to what he did. Others want him punished more. Tho notably not the victim.
@antipodean said in Interesting reads:
Are you now an expert in plea bargaining in California?
Are you? The same way you were an expert on US immigration law?
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@gollum said in Interesting reads:
No, the case should have been prosecuted as is & he should have done the agreed time - which the victim seems on board with. How many other cases do you get the victim going "yep, that punishment is OK with me".
The victim's wishes are irrelevant. That way we also get to avoid retribution in sentencing.
That should then have led to a realisation that this happened / happens a huge amount in hollywood & an open discussion about it - and those crimes punished at the same level. I want Polanski punished for the crime he committed, not for the crime you & others on the net think he committed. And then I want others who were committing the same crime punished at the same level.
Well according to the Grand Jury transcript he provided alcohol and quaaludes to a 13-year-old and then raped her orally, vaginally and anally. What crime do you think he committed? One that six weeks are sufficient?
@antipodean said in Interesting reads:
Are you now an expert in plea bargaining in California?
Are you? The same way you were an expert on US immigration law?
I didn't claim to be, in either example. But we can safely deduce that your attempt at diversion neatly sums up your competence to make your assertion.
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@jegga INteresting. Particularly this bit:
Back at their base, Perez asked Siatta to explain his shot. “Were you sighted on that guy?” he said.
Siatta, he said, answered, “Yes.”
“He told me he wanted to feel what it was like to kill someone,” Perez later recalled.
Perez was angry and concerned. He reported the incident to Kurtz, and the company began investigating Siatta. Kurtz, too, was disturbed. He sensed trouble. Villagers had been gathering at the gate, complaining about every mistake Fox Company made. Kurtz expected they would soon arrive with a body.
He warned Siatta that he stood to face charges. “We’ll see how this plays out for you, bud,” he told him. Kurtz took away his rifle and suspended him from patrols. Siatta was near tears. Perez supported the lieutenant’s position and said he wondered about Siatta’s suitability for war. “There is a difference between wanting to kill a person and killing the right person,” he said. “Our concern was that Siatta would fall into the trap of killing for pleasure, which he had the ability to do.”
Years later, the shot remains a point of contention. Siatta said he understood the reprimand but steadfastly defends his actions. “This is one of the stressors of being a designated marksman,” he told me. “You have to make that call. That guy was bad news. That was a shady guy.” In the same circumstance, he said, he would take the shot again. “You could save your buddies’ lives,” he said, “at the expense of your own ass.” Perez said these answers are unacceptable. “He can say the guy looked shady, but that doesn’t give you the right to shoot him,” he said. “If I let my squad shoot everyone who was shady, we could have killed an entire village.”Reminds me of some dialogue from a Jack Reacher novel:
There are four types of people who join the military. For some, it's a family trade. Others are patriots, eager to serve. Next, you have those who just need a job. Then there's the kind who want a legal means of killing other people.
Based on my experience, that's true. I'd have had Siatta charged based on Perez's testimony.
My feelings on the epidemic of PTSD probably belongs in a different thread.
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@antipodean you could post them on the mental health thread.
Interview with Rachel Dolezal, it's hard to be sympathetic towards her .
The Heart of Whiteness: Ijeoma Oluo Interviews Rachel Dolezal, the White Woman Who Identifies as Black
The last story you will ever need to read about Rachel Dolezal.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, this book looks like a good read though.
Yikes! New Behind-the-Scenes Book Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign
'Shattered,' a campaign tell-all fueled by anonymous sources, outlines a generational political disaster.
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Ever wondered what happened to national lampoon?
Can Anyone Repair National Lampoon’s Devastated Brand?
Over the past 15 years, three devotees of the comedy institution have attempted to restore the humor brand to its former glory. What happened instead was direct-to-video movies, lawsuits, crippling debt, and two prison sentences.
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Interesting discussion about the future for football (as in NFL), which also has implications for rugby (which is also discussed):
Football 3.0 is coming. This is what it will look like
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A modest proposal to change everything about football so it can survive.
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http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170516-when-wolves-return-to-the-wild-everything-changes
And a video that goes a bit further explaining an aspect of the article.
http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/how-wolves-change-rivers/
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Chemtrails & organic farming
My month with chemtrails conspiracy theorists
Tammi Riedl and her partner believe ‘chemtrails’ are damaging our health. They prove conspiracies have gone mainstream – and aren’t just for the right wing
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What its like to be struck by lightning
https://mosaicscience.com/story/what-its-be-struck-lightning
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Want to know how you get third in your class in the rally of Mexico with a car you bought for $500 of Craigslist?
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What our Google searches reveal: Everybody Lies
Data scientist and economist Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, formerly of Google, has pored over the unfathomably large body of data concerning when, where and what people search on Google around the world. In his book Everybody Lies, he reports insights about what people are really thinking and feeling.
An interesting excerpt that ties in with what I tell people why I don't care about certain events or things:
What are you looking for in the data now?
I’m researching anxiety. I’ve become obsessed with it, because there are lot of things in the data that are really, really surprising. I’ll give you one example: When Trump was running for president, he was saying a lot of scary things. Pretty much all my friends and family members and liberal people said they’re terrified. Now, if you look at the data in parts of the United States that are really liberal, you don’t see an uptick in searches for panic attacks or anxiety or anything like that.
(Maybe) people don’t Google anxiety about Trump, even if they’re really anxious. I’d be really surprised by that. The second possibility is people have a fixed amount of anxiety — they would have been anxious about their jobs or their kids, but now they’re anxious about Trump. That would be a revolutionary change in how we think about anxiety. The third possibility is that people exaggerate how anxious they are about Trump because it’s politically correct, when they tend to actually be much more anxious about their own personal situation. But you don’t bother your friends with that. You sound like a good person if you’re anxious about Trump. -
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The story of when we were soldiers with the horrible ending that wasn't in the film
https://www.usnews.com/news/national/articles/2008/05/16/vietnam-story
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@Stockcar86 said in Interesting reads:
I struggled with that one , was interesting though.
I'm a bit of a part time biology nerd due to some mates from Uni, but was still a bit heavy going
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How A $500 Craigslist Car Beat $400K Rally Racers - Jalopnik
Why do so many scientists misunderstand the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology?